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Matt2107
30-06-05, 01:20 PM
Anyone know the low down for being pulled over with Valid Mot Valid insurnace but no Tax?
Any special rules if you've just bought the car and are driving it home?
don't think there is any special rules
just think its up to a ?1000 fine
buy tax before you drive.
otherwise you will get butt fcuked when pulled
Snowface
30-06-05, 01:53 PM
they can tell by computer if your car isn't taxed.
Unless u have a Sorn thing.
NovalutionGSi
30-06-05, 01:54 PM
if you've got the paperwork for the car that you've bought with you on the way home and you get pulled, they should let you carry on if you prove you've just bought it.
if your caught without Tax, say its run out, and your stopped by police with the DVLA your car will be either taken away or Clampped, charged with a ?80 fine and ?120 holding fee (or something like that) and then you still have to get the Tax, once you have the Tax disc in your hand they will unclamp/release your car.
Austin_Nova16
30-06-05, 02:14 PM
Your insurance is void if the car has no Tax, so really, you'd be driving with only an MoT on the car. NO Tax, No Insurance.
nova---chris
30-06-05, 04:08 PM
A friend got pulled without tax when on route with a new car.
He got told that the police dont deal directly with tax issues.
I belive its forwarded to dvla who then act as needed.
You would only get hammerd at road side if vosa or the dvla happen to be present as is becoming more and more frequent as i found out earlier this year.
Thats just my opinion and what we were told of course!
-tucny-
30-06-05, 04:18 PM
the police were catching people near me without tax and then crushing the cars immediatley on site and sending them to a scrappers down the road in a wagon!
jkhilton
30-06-05, 04:30 PM
the police were catching people near me without tax and then crushing the cars immediatley on site and sending them to a scrappers down the road in a wagon!
hmmm...... did you actually see this? or did a friend of a friend tell you? how were they crushing the cars on site? were they pulling people over in a scrap yard? I think they would be hard pressed to justify not giving you a certain time period to appeal or pay back tax or something.
mad-driver
30-06-05, 04:34 PM
the police were catching people near me without tax and then crushing the cars immediatley on site and sending them to a scrappers down the road in a wagon!
hmmm...... did you actually see this? or did a friend of a friend tell you? how were they crushing the cars on site? were they pulling people over in a scrap yard? I think they would be hard pressed to justify not giving you a certain time period to appeal or pay back tax or something.
Yeah and who would stand back and let them crush there car infront of them :roll:
scott.parker
30-06-05, 04:36 PM
the police were catching people near me without tax and then crushing the cars immediatley on site and sending them to a scrappers down the road in a wagon!
hmmm...... did you actually see this? or did a friend of a friend tell you? how were they crushing the cars on site? were they pulling people over in a scrap yard? I think they would be hard pressed to justify not giving you a certain time period to appeal or pay back tax or something.
Buduum tish! :lol:
On a slight tangent... To tax a vehicle does the insurance have to be current? One of my friends wants to tax a car they've just bought but the insurance doesn't start until midnight on friday night, so can they not tax it until Saturday? Or is it fine to present the certificate now even with the date that hasn't started yet?
Aragorn
30-06-05, 06:24 PM
technically u cant tax it until saturday but some places are either leniant or wouldnt notice
give it a try and see
buy tax before you drive.
otherwise you will get butt fcuked when pulled
Sorry mate, not sure how it works over there but over here its totally different...
Got the Ugly Fester Van on the Road, and was Pulled. Said i hadn't taxed it cuz i only got it on the road, didn't mention that i was going to get any either and was told to drive on. No warning or anything.
2 weeks ago, got pulled for speeding at 80mph in a 60 zone. Asked about the tax and i said i was trying to get away without tax til the end of the month and he told me to drive on.. No points, fine or again a warning.
It all depends on who stops you and your attitude. I was polite and pleasent to the Cops and i got away like this, but i suppose you could get stopped by a complete wankpot too.
womble sri
01-07-05, 12:02 AM
i didnt have tax and i got pulled over. i didnt have it cos the docs were late arriving form the insurance company. the police were fine as long as i back dated the tax from when it was due they also searched us found gear and gave it back. safe old bill it was a tuesday at 11.45 and thay prob wanted to go home.
not taxing your car is a civil offence, not a criminal one. The police can't point you or fine you, but they can let DVLA know who will then "do" you.
However, the fact that your car has no tax can point towards no insurance/no MOT so they WILL take an interest in you/your car and you coul d find that you get fined for number plates or low tyres or tinted windows that you wouldn't have drawn attention to if you'd taxed the car!
-tucny-
01-07-05, 08:47 AM
the police were catching people near me without tax and then crushing the cars immediatley on site and sending them to a scrappers down the road in a wagon!
hmmm...... did you actually see this? or did a friend of a friend tell you? how were they crushing the cars on site? were they pulling people over in a scrap yard? I think they would be hard pressed to justify not giving you a certain time period to appeal or pay back tax or something.
no it was in the local paper, and it happened at the end on my road which happens to be approximatley 200meters from a large scrap metal merchants.
these were a similar things that happened up the road
http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/bradford__district/archive/2003/02/19/brad_news02.int.html
http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/bradford__district/archive/2005/03/02/brad_news06.int.html
jkhilton
01-07-05, 09:24 AM
so it was abandoned cars they crushed, not people being stopped with no tax. The people with no tax were told to pay up or have their cars clamped.
Never seen a mobile car crusher before though, that is crazy!!
-tucny-
01-07-05, 11:17 AM
yeah and cars they suspected would be abandoned at some point, maybe with no mot etc
andyhayes77
01-07-05, 01:33 PM
Anyone know the low down for being pulled over with Valid Mot Valid insurnace but no Tax?
Any special rules if you've just bought the car and are driving it home?
If u aint got tax u aint got insurance!!! The insurance companies only class a insured car as one that is road worthy ie TAX And TEST as I found out 2 years ago when I crashed into an IVACO truck costing me ?3800 in fines & compensation GUTTED so dont take the risk for ?50 worth ov tax or goto a hire shop and hire a transporter???
Actually, that isn't strictly true. If you are taking your car to an MOT station or a garage to have work done on it, you phone your insurer and tell them, they will pay out if you have an accident driving to-and-from. But they will always assume you are deliberately avoiding RFL if you don't tell them beforehand.
As mentioned previously, it is not ILLEGAL (IE a crime) so you are not driving illegally.
mad-driver
01-07-05, 03:20 PM
I was polite and pleasent to the Cops and i got away like this, but i suppose you could get stopped by a complete w**k too.
We dont have cops like that round ere from my experience, fair enough they stop you like all of them do as its their job but i've never heard of anything like that :x
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