Speed cameras & lines on the road

[inel]

There's a few truvelo speed cameras (http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/Truvelo.htm) round my way, and several more being put up. On the existing ones, new white lines have been painted after the camera.

I took some pics to clarify what I am talking about.

Here you can see the three lines on the left which will trigger the camera (when it's built) and the lines they have painted after the camera on the right.
http://www.djh-solutions.co.uk/iain/lines1.png

http://www.djh-solutions.co.uk/iain/lines2.png

Anybody have any ideas what they're for?

[Philsutton]

the lines are for working out your speed. They will have them on both side so they have the choice of which way the camera can face. Im guessing thats whats going on

[mad-driver]

thats the distance cameras clock u over. from the beginnin to end of the lines there are sensors that clock you time taken to go through that period and then works out whether or not you're speeding

[mad-driver]

damn it phil u always beat me to a post lol

[Philsutton]

haha your too slow :D

[mad-driver]

not according to the time posted though :(

[scott.parker]

Same as above though the ones near me are just Two white lines on iether side of the cam and they turn it round when they feel like it.

Scott

[Jack]

Lines are for manually working out your speed so you can't argue that the camera wasn't correctly adjusted when it snapped you.

Truvelo is supposed to combat the main flaw with the Gatso, in that its forward facing and doesn't flash (well it does, but with IR).

Seen a few PEEK cameras appear in cheltenham by traffic lights... and a couple of SPECS ones too up round there (which supposedly have trouble reading square number plates...)

Oh, and this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm) is interesting too

[mad-driver]

yea i heard of that one, my dad mentioned it to a copper when he got stopped the other week lol...

and he let him off lol

[Stuart]

you can still argue that the camer is inaccurate as the time bewteen the pics is supposed to be X time, but that could be shorter. which would indicate that you were speeding.



the truvelos can be used as gatsos. there are a few on the A1 that have been turned round to get you like a traditional gatso

[Nick]

in portsmouth there are a couple of 2-way cameras that have no road markings !

[newboytothenova2]

hi mate they are the new camera in nottingham aint they?? there are sum new 1's also near the chillwell retail park.. seem to be poping up every were in nottingham.like the others say the lines are to work out the speed over the distance of the lines.

[hendrix]

we dont have anything like that around here! cant be doing with them. The only speed camera type things round here are the detection vans.

[inel]

hi mate they are the new camera in nottingham aint they?? there are sum new 1's also near the chillwell retail park.. seem to be poping up every were in nottingham.like the others say the lines are to work out the speed over the distance of the lines.

Yeah those are the ones, near to where they have two sets on University Boulevard. You're right, the bastards are popping up everywhere.

It seems sensible that they're there for clocking some speed some how, but there are new lines painted after existing Truvelo cameras, ie not in the view of the camera. I fail to see the benefit of them changing the Truvelo to Gatso cameras ('cause they don't get your face).

[Jack]

I fail to see the benefit of them changing the Truvelo to Gatso cameras ('cause they don't get your face).
AFAIK Gatsos are a lot cheaper to buy, install and use

[Philsutton]

hi mate they are the new camera in nottingham aint they?? there are sum new 1's also near the chillwell retail park.. seem to be poping up every were in nottingham.like the others say the lines are to work out the speed over the distance of the lines.
I know a certain person that blew the one at chilwell off the face of \the earth lol.

[scott.parker]

Wouldnt be you would it phil :lol:

[Lee H]

Don't think the Truvelo ones are that great as they only get you when you speed over the three white lines in the road but by the time you reach these you are practically level with the camera and deserve to be caught for not being aware of your surroundings.

[Dpnova]

cant be caught over 155mph let the lesson be learnt

[Jack]

SPECS and laser will, and so will Truvelo - it only takes one picture :wink:

I think we need to test the 155mph theory... Didn't they have that on top gear? Get me a long enough stretch of the M5 and I'll have a go :lol:

[Ste L]

might find this useful

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/madmoose3/speedcamerasguide.jpg

[Jack]

^ Digital Gatsos aren't just in Bristol, I've seen them used in various places around Somerset - there's a couple in the Taunton area...

[mad-driver]

SPECS and laser will, and so will Truvelo - it only takes one picture :wink:

I think we need to test the 155mph theory... Didn't they have that on top gear? Get me a long enough stretch of the M5 and I'll have a go :lol:

yes they did a test on top gear once. i believe they used a tvr tuscan at about 170 and the camera was too slow lol

[STE Novavanman]

A gatso and Truvelo has to be calibrated every 3 days and if you get caught speeding you can ask for a certifcate to confim this also the speed at which you get away is around 167-168 also it is said only 130 of them at a time are ever active due to low funds.

In some 30mph zones in Kent the fixed penalty only comes in above 45mph and only if someone drives over 57mph will they be taken to court

this is a certifcate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/novavanman/cal.jpg

bin gatso

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/novavanman/fotobak2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/novavanman/specsnew.jpg

[Jack]

mmmm, good old specs

lol seen the pics of the bin gatso's before :lol:

[STE Novavanman]

i think that it should never be aloud

[inel]

That bin gatso can't seriously be used? Maybe if they painted the bin yellow... :P


In some 30mph zones in Kent the fixed penalty only comes in above 45mph and only if someone drives over 57mph will they be taken to court

That 57mph thing sounds about right. According to research I have done, fixed penalties go up to 25 mph above the legal limit and court/ban thereafter.

I have also read (off an official website) that the "10% + 2" rule should be used by cops. Not sure if cameras will take that in to account though.

[Jack]

I have also read (off an official website) that the "10% + 2" rule should be used by cops. Not sure if cameras will take that in to account though.
I've gone thru a couple of 30mph Gatso's at approaching 40 (in my defence I didn't realise the speed limit) and they didn't go off... Also driven towards some at about 45 and they've gone off

[mad-driver]

that bin one shouldnt be allowed, dont they have to be clearly visible (not the bin), and anyway whos gonna stop to go slow past a bin?

[STE Novavanman]

i do incase it blows over into the road and ruins my new bumper

[Jack]

That 57mph thing sounds about right. According to research I have done, fixed penalties go up to 25 mph above the legal limit and court/ban thereafter.
Was talking to my mate about this last night, he got nicked for doing 52 in a 30 zone and got a court summons (result: 6 points and ?300 fine).

Apparently the copper said to him if he was doing 3mph less (i.e. 49mph) he could have gotten away with a standard ?60 and 3 points.

I guess it could vary between constabularies as to what speeds get what penalties....

...and I think the bin one was a piss take :P

[STE Novavanman]

it was in america the
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/novavanman/jam.bmp
gits

[Matt2107]

i havnt read the rest of the post because im lazy but if the lines are there for working out your speed ..... would painting extra lines on top make any difference?

[STE Novavanman]

What happens if you paint line on your car

[Matt2107]

What happens if you paint line on your car

you look like a tit driving a car with a white line painted on it

:D

[STE Novavanman]

no viper has stripes
and mustangs :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/novavanman/starsstripes-06-rear.jpg

[Donova]

heard on the radio today that the A.A are publishing a map with all the speed cameras in the country marked on it 8) thats automobile asscociation, not alcoholics anonymous :lol: :lol:

[inel]

Yeah that's a pretty nice idea, it's been on the news. Might get outdated a bit quick at the rate they're putting them up though.

[Jack]

lmfao thats a bit pointless as yeah it will go out of date too quick, won't list mobile sites, and... all the data is already available on the net from each police force lmfao :lol:

[STE Novavanman]

Got a road angel so no worries

[Jack]

Don't they need to connect to to the net to update tho?

[STE Novavanman]

Leave me alone Nan raper

Yes it does not very often or i plug it in to p910i and use that on the move