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me and my mate dan were pondering the thought of trying to get a rs turbo engine into me nova!!!!!
i was just wondering if any 1 has heard of it before.
it is only because he has a hybrid turbo and stage 3 head and ecu in the garage!!!!!!
any problems 4seen replies would be much appreciated
well apart from ripping the whole front off, & sticking a ford ond on it, and modifying everything. it would be fun, but it would be easier if you had a fiesta
General Baxter
16-05-05, 08:50 PM
and whats wrong with a turbo'd nova engine? :wink:
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3183
i'd put money on the fact that you'd get better gains from an RS turbo lump than you would from a 1.3SR on a R5 Carb.
General Baxter
16-05-05, 10:02 PM
*cough*stage2*cough*
and whats wrong with a turbo'd nova engine? :wink:
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3183
isn't your engine in bits lol
looks like they'e kinda balanced in a stack
lol, just placed all the engine parts together for that one pic :lol:
General Baxter
16-05-05, 10:14 PM
indeed i did lol :lol:
me and my mate dan were pondering the thought of trying to get a rs turbo engine into me nova!!!!!
i was just wondering if any 1 has heard of it before.
it is only because he has a hybrid turbo and stage 3 head and ecu in the garage!!!!!!
any problems 4seen replies would be much appreciateddidnt you come on about a year ago asking about this and the answer was basically to much work for the extra power which you could get easier with a vauxhall lump
Aragorn
17-05-05, 12:21 AM
also the manifold port alignment in those shots up there looks way out
port 3 especially seems off to one side
is that even a vauxhall manifold?
also the manifold port alignment in those shots up there looks way out
port 3 especially seems off to one side
is that even a vauxhall manifold?
no thats the renault 5 one... he recons its only 8 mm out lol but the bolt holes line up fine
General Baxter
17-05-05, 07:23 AM
no thats the renault 5 one... he recons its only 8 mm out lol but the bolt holes line up fine
well there close, but im going to use the vauxhall std manifold just cut the the bit what bolts the manifold on, and weld it to a vauxhall one, so it will be spot on
is there a guide any where on how to turbo a 1.4sr, cause id love to get a turbo on mine soon.
cheers, lew
no i did not post bout a year ago!!!!
so is that a r5 exhaust manifold on the sr for the turbo?????
wot bout turboing the 1600?????
cheers lads thankx for the response!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is a cosworth lump that much bigger than the 20xe
me mate said it aint thought one of you lot would be able to help :oops:
can you provide an english version of that post?
what did you expect lots of help and a detailed manual on how to place a NON GM engine into a nova?
thats like one of us going on a fiesta site and asking if i can fit a LET into a Mk2 fester. they simply wont know the ins and outs.
If you want to do it, then just plan it and do it then you can be the one in the know. The internet isnt a magical beat that can just create info regarding any kind of engine conversion into any kind of car. It does acctually need some crazy people to do the work in the first palce and then if they want they can publish it on the net.
You didnt see Autin_Nova posting asking how to fit an XE in the front and have a RWD setup did you? no but hes done one by taking the gamble etc.
Aragorn
19-05-05, 10:10 AM
the YB and XE are similar sized units and u can usually fit a YB where a XE will fit and vice versa
the problem with the YB is the lack of FWD gearboxes for it as most (all?) its applications involve RWD or 4x4
installing that in a nova would mean a RWD conversion like austin16v did
the 1600 8v gm unit is turboable and could be done reasonably cheaply and defo much cheaper than making an RS turbo fit and it'd be a stronger engine imo
the things u'd need to look at are:
turbo manifold (courtenay do one for ~?250)
turbo
boost pipework and intercooler
lowering the compression ratio (bodge it with spacer plates or fit low compression pistons)
engine management (either a later C16SE setup with a unichip on top or a fully programmable system ie MBE or DTA or whatever, or std GTE stuff with an MF2 and 5th injector)
thats not including any block strenghtening u'd want to do
deseamed and shotpeened rods would be nice for high boost,
arp rod bolts if your planning on high revs (or new std ones if u arent)
rebore?
crank regrind?
new bearings all round and piston rings
gasket set
do the math then decide if its worth it
wot size turbos do they use as a rule of thumb with the 1600 turbo engines.
can get hold of t3 blower from me mate
With reference to the size of a cossie lump. The cossie engine is bigger than the XE. I didn't thik it would be THAT much bigger once the maifolds where removed but looking back at the conversion piccys I have it does seem to been a fair bit bigger.
It only just fits in to the front on a Mk1 Escort. I've just roughly measured this and you would need about 29"x26" to fit the engine in without the gearbox. Thats 29" wide when mounted inline. So unless you want to build a RWD Nova the engine will be mounted transverse so you would need 29" from the bulkhead to the radiator.
The Nova engine bay is no where near that big but like anything else im sure it could be modifyed. Then your back in the realms of a serious ammount of modification and fabrication.
Hope this helps
Dar
a mate of mine said hes seen/heard of a nova with a cossie engine in it. so it is possibble some how :?
Aragorn
19-05-05, 10:52 AM
it could be done but it'd have to be rwd unless u wanna start farting around with the manifolds etc like dar says and also the gearbox
when he asked about size i wasnt thinkin about manifolds, i was thinking about the size of the block and head itself
id say the T3 could be too big for the 1600. i know dan with the let will be running one on his modified LET for fairly big power. so id guess a T2 would be ideal
NovaloadedAgain
19-05-05, 03:30 PM
I think youd be more then happy with a T2. Thats what a standard renault 5 turbo uses.
As for the cossie engine!-They are much bigger as said-But nothings impossible.
My mates dad built a Carlton GSi engined Nova 5 years back! & thats a big engine too. RWD too! Does anyone know anything about them conversions?
But seriously, if you wanna put a cossie in a Nova, make it rear wheel drive anyway, not doing thats like having a FWD Ferrari, going out without any trousers. Its pointless and silly not to. Just space frame the Nova and Run a Manta box through the floors and get a diff or whole Manta rear end grafted on. Its not as difficult as it seems, just slow and tedious (spelling). I've seen it done to a stock car, it wasn't a perfect job but then again it was for a stock car and could be done a lot better if you wanted.
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