View Full Version : My Nova Build: 2ltr 16v TB
Adam Moran
25-04-05, 05:48 PM
Hi,
Been re-building my nova for a while now so i thought i'd post some pics and tech info.
All work in progress but your comments welcome... good or bad
enjoy ;-)
Engine:
20xe
Jenvey tb's MBE management
Accralite flat top pistons
Lightened and balanced crank and flywheel ARP Flywheel bolts
Cat Cams Steel Rods and ARP 2000 bolts
Blydenstein head with new guides (standard valve size)
QED 450 cams with solid lifters and double valve springs
Matt Simpson full race exhaust, custom Simpson manifold and 2 3/4 exhaust system with re packable back box
Overhalued F20 + ATB Diff
Suspension:
AVO coilovers all round with stiffer springs on the front to cope with the weight,
Polysport bushes all round, GSi Tie bars, OMP Strut brace,adjustable protec tie bar mounts
and concentric top mounts.
Brakes:
Front - New GM V6 brakes + Braided Hoses
Rear - Re-Built Standerd drums
Wheels/Tyres:
For track - White 15' ET 49 Vaux Cesaro Wheels + Slicks
For road - 16' ET 49 Vaux Softstars
Interior:
Striped out with red front Sri seats,Safty Devices FIA Full roll cage, Sparco steering wheel,
Carbon gearknob, GSi clocks, rear poly windows.
Few other random pics....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/N2.jpg
Currently welding in a Harry Hockly kit to the bay then its off to be painted. Shouldnt be too long and it
will be ready.
Looking forward to driving it again :-)
Few Links:
http://www.qednet.demon.co.uk/
http://www.simpsonraceexhausts.com/
http://www.rscmotorsport.com
Very nice! :D
What sort of BHP are you hoping for?
With solid lifters and steel internals I guess around the 250 mark.
Adam Moran
25-04-05, 05:57 PM
About 230bhp wit htis set up. If you use intruder pistons you can get 250bhp.
Should be alot of fun when its done :lol:
I should say so! Will be smiles per miles :D :D :D
Good work :+:
david dixon
25-04-05, 06:01 PM
very nice i like that a lot! well done mate. :D
Excellent Stuff Adam, look forward to seeing it in the flesh :)
Jim
-Bruce-
25-04-05, 06:11 PM
So its getting there then Adam? I bet you cant wait to drive it again!! I have the same feeling about mine!!
Bruce
looks lovely mate really like it :lol:
peester
25-04-05, 06:58 PM
:o hard core - u know the score!!!
luvvin the tyres.. proper bo.
paulwar
25-04-05, 07:12 PM
Adam: looks mint mate a job well done.
And hehe at simpson race exhausts. Very good exhausts and known of them for years. Involed in 2lt racing on the oval tracks :)
totalnova
25-04-05, 07:19 PM
wot car is that in the background?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/2fcd6aad.jpg
Col_Mk1
25-04-05, 07:20 PM
very lush
stuning..
i actually quite like the look of that silk violet bumper on the red bodywrok..
i take it it's not staying like that tho !
Looking good mate, that manifold is a work of art :o cars looking tidy as usual.
Car in the garage looks like a Volvo Amazon to me
looks real nice!!!!
Love the wheels they really suit the car. Could be tempted for a set for mine!
very nice car, bumpers would look great grey or is that what your doing lol
Adam Moran
25-04-05, 10:09 PM
Thanks for the comments! All good ones too and no bad ones :D
Bumpers will be sprayed anthrite (sp) or gloss black not sure yet
karl Rowntree
25-04-05, 10:10 PM
Awesome Adam!
You really have come along way in a short space of time mate. I remember how chuffed you where when we put your first engine in, i look forward to seeing your face when you drive it now.
Exactly the spec i would go for mate, it will be up there with the quickest and will be amazing around a track.
You will have to take me out in it :wink:
P.S i completly forgot about the throttle cable clamps you wanted, do you still need a couple mate? If so i will get them and drop them in the post.
Karl
Adam Moran
25-04-05, 10:16 PM
Thanks Karl :wink:
It's all your fault this is!!! You said to me and i quote "i garantee in 2 weeks time you will want somthing quicker" Well after 2 engines and 2 years i STILL want somthing quicker lol I just hope that this is the end of the line for the Nova and i can concentrate on my AC Cobra :wink:
I'm ok for the clamps, went for tb's insted :D
Catch up with you soon buddy
Ad
karl Rowntree
25-04-05, 10:23 PM
:lol: Off goes Karl to put his specs on :oops:
You must have spent a small fortune on the old girl, with TB's on it really will be up there with them. Adam you car will probably be the fastest N/A nova around, you really will have to take me out in it :wink:
Adam Moran
25-04-05, 10:42 PM
Karl you've been a good friend for along time, theres no way i'm letting you in the passenger seat!!!
Your going to drive the thing ffs :lol: :lol:
Oh dear lord Ad, you really have gone for it!
Mine will be ready soon and its the same general spec as yours, but 350cc smaller! lol
PV?
Is that silk bumper from me?
Adam Moran
26-04-05, 06:07 PM
Nice one Will I know your engine build has given you nightmares from the start but it WILL be worth it :wink:
Yep thats the gsi bumper i brought of u what seemed a lifetime ago!
Mine wont really be out untill next year tbh... Should be done around late August/September time but next year is when i'm planning on using it.
Ad
ANDYRACER
26-04-05, 06:32 PM
Always liked your nova. Now even better. Keep it going mate.
krobinson
28-04-05, 10:08 PM
Great Ad, looking superb. Cant wait till next years Ring trip, when you take me a blast!!
Keith
5_door owner
29-04-05, 01:03 AM
superb that mate, really nice.
8)
REALLY like that mate .. very clean n looks the business 8)
Matt Nova
29-04-05, 11:11 AM
absolutely gorgeous mate and like the no spoiler on the back
bet she goes like a bat out of hell too lol
good work mate :D
Nice one adam, come a long way from the 1.2 i first saw you in!
NovaloadedAgain
29-04-05, 06:20 PM
Thats really quite a beast you've built there. Love it mate. Well done. 8)
shy witness
29-04-05, 07:52 PM
yes m8-- a great lookin wee motor--- should be a real go-er aswell-- keep up the good work :D
marsh_man
30-04-05, 01:36 AM
Liking it a lot :)
230bhp :D
kevster
02-05-05, 11:44 AM
i really like the look of this nova i think you have done a really good job on it keep up the good work :D
Adam Moran
18-05-05, 06:23 PM
**Update**
Things still moving along quite nicel, not too long before shes ready 8)
Been thinking for a while what im going to do with the paint, do i re-spray it or not??
Well.... I'm not lol
I've decided to "sticker up" my car
need your help deciding what to go for please :D
like this alot (thanks EMEN)
http://www.novaload.net/images/car_images/2553big.jpg
Any ideas????
forgot to mention to you Ad that someone as at Redline Rumble in agrey nova with those graphics on it !
Maybe we need to have a re think about it, got some piccys of the engine bay so far, I'll post them to you and you can put them up :)
Adam Moran
18-05-05, 09:11 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0839.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0835.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0831.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0828.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0825.jpg
car looks good and some real progress there....also the spec on that engine sounds awesome...cant wait til its finished!!!! :lol:
shy witness
18-05-05, 11:31 PM
wots that steel strengthening plate u have in your hand there??? is this part of this harry hockley kit i keep hearing about??
does anyone have more information on this kit-- or would it be hard 2 make your own as im thinking seriously about building a valver
karl Rowntree
19-05-05, 11:39 AM
IMHO Adam i wouldnt put graphics on it mate, allways liked your car because it looked so simple and understated. Once you put graphics on it, you draw even more attnetion to it and people expect it to be fast. I think its better to keep it subtle, then blow them away. Plus its very difficult to find a graphic that would look good on a nova, the graphic above is awfull just my opinion mate.
Karl
Adam Moran
19-05-05, 11:43 AM
Thanks for you view Karl. Having a re-think at the moment, just going to get it finnished and all polished up and see how she looks :wink:
shy witness
20-05-05, 06:51 PM
???????????????? wot about that plate mate [ see previous post]^^^^^
Yes that is part of the H H kit, the kit is being fitted as the build manual shows,
The kit is only ?100 from HH but its quite a lot of work to get fitted
Adam Moran
21-05-05, 09:25 AM
Kit now fitted, engine bay being sprayed shortly.
Just waiting for the last few bits for the engine build then it will be built and then dyno'd and mapped at the same time. Should be ready by the end of August with a bit of luck :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0855.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0854.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0852.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/DSCF0851.jpg
-Bruce-
21-05-05, 09:57 AM
Engine bay looks good adam. Nice welding!! Im not sure why but i like welding. Its great when you finnish it and it looks GOOD. Well done.
And i agree with Karl the stickers would look rather silly imo!!
Bruce
Adam Moran
21-05-05, 10:05 AM
:oops: Welding not done by me, my mate Martin did it. 10 out of 10 is all i can say ;-)
i aint into the graphics either matey.
i agree with karl also, keep it looking clean and sharp.
ollster
21-05-05, 03:19 PM
:oops: Welding not done by me, my mate Martin did it. 10 out of 10 is all i can say ;-)
definatly a nice bit of welding but a bit excessive stitching the firewall!
What kind of welder was used? Mig? - Looks AMAZING!!!
shy witness
22-05-05, 10:24 AM
yip-- looks like a good job
its good 2 c pictures at this stage-- it gives me a bit of an insight of what id like 2 b gettin in2 over the winter here hopefully
please keep the pictures comin in as id like 2 see the finished artical :D
:oops: Welding not done by me, my mate Martin did it. 10 out of 10 is all i can say ;-)
definatly a nice bit of welding but a bit excessive stitching the firewall!
I think the welding is being done as the nova build manual shows, I'll get some pics out of his book when he brings it round,
certainly makes the firewall stiff as, should be real tough, car is well solid anyway which makes it nice to work on
here's the pages from the Build Manal, well i thinks its the pages he was talkin about...
Page 1 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.m.leigh/NovaComp/1.jpg)
Page 2 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.m.leigh/NovaComp/2.jpg)
Page 3 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.m.leigh/NovaComp/3.jpg)
Page 4 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.m.leigh/NovaComp/4.jpg)
Page 5 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.m.leigh/NovaComp/5.jpg)
ollster
23-05-05, 07:59 PM
yeh ive got the build manual as we stitched my chasis last summer, but with the firewall bein completly non structural we didnt bother with it
I ended up having the front end of mine bead blasted to get good welds
Before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/ollster/calendar/P1010003.jpg
Stripped, bead blasted and welded
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/ollster/Random/DSC01391.jpg
Prepped for paint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/ollster/DSC01795.jpg
After
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/ollster/Picture005.jpg
shy witness
23-05-05, 08:48 PM
m8 that looks superb.....................
a real proper job :+:
Adam Moran
23-05-05, 09:57 PM
Olly that is an awsome job ;-) Saw you car at Billing 2 years ago and its stunning.
I could spend more time and effort to get mine to a similar standered but tbh its going to spend its life on the track not for people to admire so theres no point. 90% of my money went into the engine build lol
ollster
23-05-05, 10:46 PM
cheers mate, gotta say the work you are doin on yours look top notch too mate. God was that billing 2 years ago! thats the last time i drove the car, its been in bits since with final year uni etc ive just not had the time or money to build it as quick as i would have liked, and to be honest im startin to loose enthusiasm, there is still a lot more money to go into it for the throttles brakes etc. Im so tempted to strip it and put the money into turning my g40 into a track weapon; its seing threads like this thats gives me a bit of motivation to finish the thing lol
karl Rowntree
23-05-05, 10:52 PM
Keep going lads, looks like both are going to be mint :wink:
P.S Ollster, did you realise that there was a copy write on the engine you have a picture of? :lol: Well chuffed you used a picture of mine, exactly what i was like with Barts yellow nova. We had to keep reminding ourselfs what it should look like.
Karl
ollster
23-05-05, 11:34 PM
damm karl didnt realise i was gonna have to pay royalties :lol: If i see you at any car shows this year ill get you a beer dude, its peoples cars like yours that stop me from giving up and breaking mine for spares!
karl Rowntree
24-05-05, 12:08 PM
No worries mate, glad its been of some use to you. Dont brake it you will regret it in the long run mate, its all worth it when you get to drive it. Look forward to seeing it in the near future.
Karl
NovaNeil
24-05-05, 12:26 PM
Awesome Adam!!! Fair play mate. As has been mentioned, I can't wait to see it on the Ring Next year 8) Theres going to be some sweet Nova's coming along, and by the looks of it this may be the one to watch out for in everyones rear view mirrors :D
We're just got to stop that Karl Rowntree messing about with that Jap rubbish and bring his Awesome Vaux along next year :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
Neil
Adam Moran
24-05-05, 06:27 PM
I'll go and see Karl and take him out in mine and i think that will be enough for him to bring his Nova next year ;)
Call you in a few days Neil to arange collection of that bonnet ;)
karl Rowntree
24-05-05, 06:46 PM
Cant wait to go in it Adam, but dont want to as i will end up spending more on mine!
Dont worry the nova may be out of storage sooner than you think :wink:
scott.parker
24-05-05, 06:49 PM
Cant wait to go in it Adam, but dont want to as i will end up spending more on mine!
Dont worry the nova may be out of storage sooner than you think :wink:
hope so mate as i think so many ppl love to see your car at the shows each year,im waiting to see what you have done,as im sure you said you wer doing something to her? :D
Scott
Adam Moran
06-06-05, 08:21 PM
Few more pictures....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/DSC00696.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/DSC00694.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/DSC00692.jpg
Need a new door :(
Got a few things sorted in my head about how i want the car to look, going to try them when the engines in :wink:
Getting the TB's this week and there going off to the engine builder so he can match them to the head.
Slowly but surley lol
nice, lol at the inner wheel arch pic, thats the one bit of welding I done as Martin told me to prove I can atleast weld now without blowing any holes in anything!
its coming along quite well now, hopefully a few things will come together shortly and we'll be able to think about getting an engine in it.
Adam Moran
19-10-05, 05:36 PM
Engine bay now painted 8)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adbay1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adbay2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adbay3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adbay4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adbay5.jpg
Engine built... just waiting for it to be dyno'd
nathan.
19-10-05, 05:45 PM
Looks great adam. Gonna be awesome when done! :wink:
novamadcars
19-10-05, 05:58 PM
looks lovely and clean and a nice bit of welding thair 2
was the bay a real pain to rub down??
i have to do this next week??
scott.parker
19-10-05, 06:54 PM
Wehay Ad getting close now mate! :P
Scott
you deffo going to have to let me have a ride in this one mate, i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed another nova :cry:
scott.parker
19-10-05, 07:01 PM
Hang on i though you said you wouldnt have another nova?? :lol:
Face it the Jap crap wernt all it was hyped up to be... :lol: :P :wink:
Scott
krobinson
19-10-05, 07:31 PM
its crap :P :P
Its Gay, get it right chris!!
You homo
Keith
cornish
20-10-05, 04:56 PM
Need a new door
Which side Adam as i have a mint passanger side one which i need rid of?
Nova looks nice btw :)
rudeboy69r
20-10-05, 09:14 PM
nice nova m8! dont fuck it too soon lol..
boredbloke
20-10-05, 09:41 PM
Face it the Jap crap wernt all it was hyped up to be...
It's always up to the hype :wink: :D
[/looks around] JACK??
martweaver
22-10-05, 02:05 PM
Looking fantastic matey, You have got such a mint condition shell - really is spotless!! engine bay looks great, look forward to seeing some pics of it with the engine in.
Are you running the front mounted alternator? & is there any rear springs on it in the jacked up pic - fooking low!!!
Mart
Col_Mk1
22-10-05, 02:18 PM
very nice adam :D
Nice one Adam - Thats going to be one damn fine flying machine :P
its crap :P :P
Its Gay, get it right chris!!
You homo
Keith
He's in your club now Keith
the official Solid lifter club,
;)
fucking amazing mate :lol:
although looking at your pics has reminded me of olly's ,anyone know what he's up too
Adam Moran
23-01-06, 07:38 PM
Right then.. for those of you who remember me a bit of an update....
The engines now fully built altho it hasnt been run yet. That will happen shortly :)
Been a year now since i started this project and cant wait to get back in it! Will hopfuylly use it over the summer then back to the ring in September.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/Eng1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/Eng2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/Eng3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/simps2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/simps1.jpg
krobinson
23-01-06, 07:52 PM
Looks bloody awesome Ad!
We can be solid lifter buddies :)
Keith
Looks awesome Ad, nice one :D
Thats looking rather clean! 8)
[/looks around] JACK??
Hello? :lol:
sexshee ad's
can't wait til she's on the road.. 8)
novamadman
24-01-06, 12:08 AM
Just read through this whole post. Well done thats awesome and wish you all the luck in the world with the car.
shane
sexy
when is she going into the car :D
Stunning mate, keep up the good work fella 8)
looks spanking that Ad mate 8)
Rob-16v
24-01-06, 01:58 PM
That looks mint, id love to do a re build like that.
Whats the spec on the engine?
basic Spec.
Rebored and decked block.
Flat top Accralites with extra pocketing.
Steel rods
Lightened and balanced
Steel gear SBD oil pump
Blydenstein Head matched to manifolds
QED Solid lifters
QED double valve springs
Retainers etc...
QED 450 Cams
Jenvey TB's with dizzyless MBE management
Simpson race exhaust manifold and system with re packable backbox
A quite genuine very solid 230 h/p I hope :)
novamadcars
24-01-06, 09:49 PM
mmmmmmmm very sexy car mate keep up the good work :D
lee 16v
24-01-06, 11:19 PM
i love this car i must say, i see it on turbonutters, good work, :lol:
Should get the car back here at the weekend once mine is gone.
It shouldn't be too long getting it back together, just a shame some coooont robbed Ads wheels from my garage last week ! (amongst other things!)
pics to follow
joff-turbo-nova
30-01-06, 09:25 PM
Just to say well done on the rebuild - looks ace - gives me some ideas on how clean my engine will need to be when its built up!!!
Where did you source the paint for the block by the way???
Cheers
Joff
Adam Moran
31-01-06, 09:27 PM
no idea Joff, the guy who built my engine did it all. JB will prob know
Ad
CP@Novaload
01-02-06, 06:25 PM
Very very nice work - a pleasure to look at
No idea what paint exactly is used, I have asked before and he said Hammerite but fook knows where he gets it in that colour !
buster12345
01-02-06, 07:40 PM
i like the looks of that car
No idea what paint exactly is used, I have asked before and he said Hammerite but fook knows where he gets it in that colour !
Ye i think hammerite do that colour, IIRC i had a can of it to do the brake calipers on my old car.
MARTIN KELSON
02-02-06, 08:31 AM
Liking this alot.
Looks like another realy quality build. Well done. Look forward to seeing it some time later in year.
Makes me want to re-build mine again!!
Liking this alot.
Looks like another realy quality build. Well done. Look forward to seeing it some time later in year.
Makes me want to re-build mine again!!
Martin it's about time you contacted TV about a feature!
:thumb:
I think I speak for everyone... WE WANT PICS!!!! MOFO's
MARTIN KELSON
02-02-06, 10:21 AM
Hi,
Jules, it has been in Total Vauxpoo mag. Few years ago now. Not in its current state but not enough changed to get a re-feature. Had stereo in back, carpet and creature comforts!
It was Oct 03 issue with a blue wide arch Cavalier on the front.
Cheers
Martin
craig green
02-02-06, 11:33 AM
Hi,
Jules, it has been in Total Vauxpoo mag. Few years ago now. Not in its current state but not enough changed to get a re-feature. Had stereo in back, carpet and creature comforts!
It was Oct 03 issue with a blue wide arch Cavalier on the front.
Cheers
Martin
I liked the feature of yours in Car & car conversions (back in the day) that Walshy did.
-Bruce-
02-02-06, 03:22 PM
The progress pics are looking very good adam!! Not spoken to you in ages. Keep us posted on it mate.
And get some more pics up lol!!
MARTIN KELSON
02-02-06, 03:27 PM
Blimey Craig that was along time ago.
Bet not many people remember that feature.
Shows how old i'am and how long i've had the car now.
Was it?! Blimey I've forgotten the TV feature then (I have all TV issues), I remember the C&CC feature (Still got that knocking about somewhere I think)
dhdev (Oli)
03-02-06, 12:39 PM
I've still got the CCC feature at home too!
update :
Me and a mate finally got time to get the engine in on Saturday, due to the competetion mounts it was a pain in the **** to fit as once mounted you could not move the engine about to get it sitting correctly but eventually we got there
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/ad01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/ad03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/ad04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/ad05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/a06.jpg
Next update
I have had the wiring loom in bits and taken out everything not required and now routed it back through the engine bay, fitted a few tanks and wipers etc..
I spent a while messing around with the engine mounts to get the engine to sit nicer only to find that when I fitted the exhaust manifold that it hits the drivers side tie bar :cry: some fettling is clearly required here
Got quite a few smaller jobs done too and hopefully tomorrow the bits from rally design should show up so I can get the coilovers back on and brakes etc..
Will keep updating as things get done
pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adbay22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adex1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adtb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adrear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adnice1.jpg
Tis looking stunning :cool::)
shy witness
25-04-06, 12:19 AM
sweet as mate...............
lookin great
Super
Still want the brace?
Looks Awesome is that jonboys house ?i know him of turbo nutters not sure what his username is on here or if that he is on here.
novamadman
25-04-06, 05:32 PM
looks immense
well done
shane
krobinson
25-04-06, 05:38 PM
Looking awesome Ad & Jonboy, looking forward to seein that in the flesh!!
Keith
Alright Jamied, Its me ;)
Yes do want the strut brace, cheque should of arrived to you today :)
Parts from rally design showed up today and I have now come accross a problem, will post in techincal to see if anyone has a solution
Adam Moran
22-05-06, 12:56 PM
More pictures...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/SSL10754.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/SSL10752.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/SSL10750.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/My%20Nova/SSL10749.jpg
just read it all, im well amazed, decied im kicking the ber and building one !
that exhaust is pure sex !!
although i did see venoms in 1 of the pics, hmmmm ???
c'2.0lrt
22-05-06, 03:59 PM
wow mate looking good when you hoping to finish?
Did the strut brace fit over the throttles????
graham kirkbride
22-05-06, 07:24 PM
nice work mate keep it up bogs dollocks
Strut brace is stilll at my work at the mo. Must remember to bring it back and try it on !
I've got plenty of bits to get done still but I've been uber busy with work.
Will hopefuly see some decent progress over the next few weeks.
novabex
30-05-06, 08:08 PM
That is pornosexual!
Phwoar.
Lushness! :thumb: :eek:
Pull yer finger out you lazy git.
novabex
30-05-06, 08:13 PM
Pull yer finger out you lazy git.
Why wheres his finger?! Sounds dodgy to me. lol
Steady Ben!
It WILL get done soon, no need to rush it.
I also have my own project as well as this one !
Hows the escort coming on?
Adam Moran
13-02-07, 06:48 PM
Time for a bit of an update....
Came close to breaking it but jb made me see sense!
Words and pictures taken from Turbo-Nutters. Words by Jonboy
:thumb:
Due to work commitments not much got done on the car last year, it was nearly broken up but luckily Ad chose to stick it out and with another year starting it seemed a good enough reason to finally get it done.
The engine and box was dropped in last year, a few other bits were trial fitted but that was about it.
First problem come around when I fitted the tie bars and found the drivers one was catching the exhaust manifold, a smaller tie bar was fitted but it was still far too close so that was one thing that definately had to be sorted.
In this pic you can see the problem:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adex2.jpg
Considering the cost of a new manifold it was out of the question to have another made so a custom tie bar setup seemed the best route, sadly the only off the shelf option is ?1000 which is designed with rallying in mind, really not needed on this car.
Even though with the thinner tie bars fitted you only gained about 1mm gap, it was no way safe enough as these have been known to break, this could lead to a rather nasty accident.
I know of someone who was making something to similar to what I needed so I asked him to make me a set.
They sit miles away from the manifold now so that could now be fitted.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/tiebar.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/rosejointbar.jpg
Before the manifold was fitted It needed to be heat wrapped, I used Thermo Tec wrap, 50 foot and another 25foot further down the manifold.
Its the first time I've used any and god damn it makes you itch lol, full of fibreglass or similar which ends up all over you !
Finished result:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/wrapped.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/fitted.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/wrap2.jpg
I need to order some new bushes for the wishbones then I can get it back on its wheels with some brakes.
Hopefully next month we'll get everything else for the fuel system then its ready to run.
It will use a 1.5litre external swirl pot in the boot with the fuel lines in car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/swirlpot.jpg
Current state awaiting new loom and fuel system...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/doorsoff.jpg
Glad you didn't break it, too nice for that! Lol
Be good to see it finished :)
those tie bars look realy good, plan on selling any?
Looking very good there Ad!
stuartp
13-02-07, 09:14 PM
them lower arms look spot on think il drop lee a pm! Are you not using a swirl potted fuel tank! or is the standard tank not good enogh?? looks good!
chimp007_uk
13-02-07, 09:42 PM
absolutely awesome mate!! will be a car and a half, once finsished!
hats off to you, nice TCA idea :)
any more pics of the TCA and tie bars, Please
Lee303 off MIG made the tie bars, I saw some in his build thread he made and knew they would be the answer to the tie bar issue.
The engine loom is now in and done, a few other bits are now bolted in but not much else done besides that.
Will probably run a carbed tank (as i have one coming off a mate) into a facet red top then external swirl pot in the boot feeding a cosworth fuel pump.
Ben- Escorts coming along about as fast as this nova lol its been dipped and I'll know more by the end of the week.
only other pic of the tie bar i have :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/tiebar.jpg
Chunky Lover
20-02-07, 01:01 PM
i must admit fair play to you for sticking with it just caught up with it and that is smashing work your doing!
Right, time for another update, Ad came up this weekend so we got quite a bit done on the car.
The engine bay is now fully wired, the new engine loom is in, 90% of the engine bay is complete, just waiting on a few parts to arrive then than side of things will be done.
The interior and fuel system is next to finish, a set of buckets and a new dash setup have hopefully been sourced so I will collect them asap. The whole fuel system and oil cooler will be aeroquipped which I hope I'll get this week, then it should be quite close to running. I hope by the end of March it will be running and ready for mapping in April.
Heres some pics of how it looks so far:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender5.jpg
This is how the interior currently looks, that should hopefully change a fair bit over the next month
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender6.jpg
vaughanmc
25-02-07, 10:38 PM
something for me to aim for :)
Big_Chap
25-02-07, 11:02 PM
hey, have a similar build to this in progress myself mate (although not as much internal mods...yet!) and was wondering which manifold you have as it looks pretty similar to mine and hope i don't have the same tie bars probs (although i was tempted to buy the kit from lee303 but feel it is a touch ott for what i'll use the car for)
keep the pics etc coming
The manifold was custom made by Simpson exhausts, it was made for another nova which the engine must of sat slightly different to this one.
Big_Chap
26-02-07, 12:08 AM
ah, excellent!
Good work, its getting there :)
How meny meters of heatwrap did you use on the exhaust ?
Rick Draper
26-02-07, 06:22 PM
This is how the interior currently looks, that should hopefully change a fair bit over the next month
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/weekender6.jpg
GSI black dash needed asap!
Looking mint.
75 foot in total, I expected that would of been enough to go half way down the car ! maybe at a later date Ad will get the rest done.
Rick- Gsi dash would look better but tbh if it gets changed for anything it will be a flocked dash. I'm getting a load of bits doen on the escort so I might chuck them another nova dash to do.
Its all down to what he uses it for tbh, I believe its gone way past being a road car so luxeries are pointless, it is however not my car so I'll do what Ad wants (to the car that is ;)
GSI black dash needed asap!
Looking mint.
Had a look at the car last night and decided as the cage sits sooo close to the dash that it can stay grey lol
Ok small update.
A few parts showed up today so thought I'd get them fitted and finally find out how little room (if any) we had to fit the filter.
Originally the trumpets were chopped down slightly and drilled for nitrous injectors, these were fine for when using nitrous but shocking when your not so a new set was purchased. The problem was that they are big and clearance between them and the bulkhead was extremely tight so it was hit and miss if the firewall was going to have to be cut off.
After squashing the filter into a shape it wasn't overly happy about I managed to get it on which although its tight to the firewall shouldn't be a problem as the engine is nigh on solid mounted, time will tell though.
Heres the pics of the trumpets etc..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/trumpets.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/filteron.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/braceon.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/sideview.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/damntight.jpg
As you can see its mega tight but I'm confident that it will be alright.
Only other part that showed up was a 11" Pacet Fan, it took all of 5 mins to fit but its another step closer to being complete now :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/pacet.jpg
Whilst I had my mop to hand I thought I'd just buzz over a part of the roof to see if there was anychance of improving the paint where it had faded so much, besides making a fooking mess everywhere I think it will come up fine, the edges are always a pain on red cars as you cant go anywhere near them with the mop so they will need to be finished by hand.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/mopped.jpg
And thats it till the weekend, still waiting on the aeroquip and a few other parts but its really starting to get close to running finally.
Adam Moran
07-03-07, 10:26 AM
Cheers for the update JB, really is looking stunning now!
Thankyou for your hard work :)
kevster
07-03-07, 08:51 PM
look at thos shiney bit looking good dude :)
Ok at last "most" not all the fuel bits turned up today.
I hoped for blue and red fittings but at the price I got them for I wont be complaining lol
Weekends job as Ad is up again is to get the underside of the car finished, some interior work done and fit some fuel lines where possible.
Heres some pics to tease you with :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/aeroquip1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/aeroquip.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/aeroquip2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/aeroquip3.jpg
Rick Draper
16-03-07, 09:18 PM
Very nice, you cannot beat a load of aeroquip.
I need a swirl pot i think....
Adam Moran
02-05-07, 09:45 AM
Well its nearing the end of the project now (thank god!!)
Going to change the rear suspension as were not atall happy with the way the AVO's sit to the wheel (-1mm) and on track it could cause a serious accident. So thats being sorted at the moment.
Been chopping and changing the areoquip's because of price and the fuel line we have but its now sorted.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/quipbay.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/novaaj/quipbay1.jpg
All the fittings for inside the car will be here today.
Next on the list is to fit the bucket seats then fire it up and get it run in.
4 weeks till PVS.... Will be a close one!
craig green
02-05-07, 11:57 AM
Nice build! Like Lee's tie bar/TCA set up too.
Should go well when done. Its the little details & quality of prep that set the difference between all the 16v conversions.
Hi Ad, its lee from Plymouth :)
looking good mate, hope you getting it running soon and make it to pvs, tickets all paid for now so hopfully see you up there. Il be camping with Gav there on the sat night and hopefully few more from plymouth:)
Keep up the good work and see you soon :thumb:
Adam Moran
02-05-07, 07:00 PM
Hi Ad, its lee from Plymouth :)
looking good mate, hope you getting it running soon and make it to pvs, tickets all paid for now so hopfully see you up there. Il be camping with Gav there on the sat night and hopefully few more from plymouth:)
Keep up the good work and see you soon :thumb:
Cheers Lee!
Looking sweet, top quality build :)
Awesome!
Where is the washer fluid bottle though?!
Adam Moran
04-05-07, 08:19 PM
Awesome!
Where is the washer fluid bottle though?!
Theres a small one going next to the wiper motor.
Cheers for the comments
Hope to see some of you at PVS, do come over to say hello :thumb:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/quip8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/quip7.jpg
Should hopefully have all that and a few more bits done by monday.
Just need to have the oil cooler altered for -10 fittings and order some fittings for the brakes on tuesday and finish those bits off next.
Update pics :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/quipbay101.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/quip9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/quip11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/bulkheadfittings.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/bias.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/bottompulley.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adfront.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/stackdashad.jpg
Probably wont get a lot done till wednesday now but next weekend could be the final stages
sr_nova_joe
08-05-07, 12:30 AM
ur a legand m8 wot a wiked nova
craig green
08-05-07, 10:02 AM
Where have you ordered all the brake lines & fittings from?
Thanks.
Most of it came through Think Auto mate
craig green
08-05-07, 10:41 AM
Thought as much. Thanks.
Have you used anything special for routing the lines out into the fr arches for the fr calipers? ie bulkhead fittings or whatever.
The whole car is using bulkhead fittings for fuel and brakes.
I haven't installed the front lines yet but I do have bulkhead fittings for those, just not sure if I'm going to bother using them yet as the engine is really in the way for me to get to where I wanted to install them
Most of it came through Think Auto mate
Where they expensive ? Wanna be doing mine over the next couple of weeks.
The bill for the brake setup was ?165 exc bias lever.
I did get a load more fittings than it turned out I needed so I'm going to return those for a refund.
Most expensive bit to do by far is a oil cooler, -10 fittings and hose is pricey.
What you got left !?! Was going to do mine fairly cheap, like grommets through body work to save on connectors & leaks !
krobinson
08-05-07, 09:30 PM
Absolutely awesome
Everthing that is left is really no use as its bulkhead fttings and 90 degree swept bends that i was going to use to plumb the fronts in.
I must have 30 spare -6 and -8 red/blue Aeroquip fittings left over which I need to send back for a refund !
Might have to seek your advice on the pipework for the brakes and fuel then mate :)
Yeh no problem mate, once I've got other fittings I'll be able to tell you exactly what you need to fit the whole car out.
I'm not keen on hose through grommets which is why everything has bulkhead fittings. Should be no reason for leaks as we spent long enough making all the hoses up !
big gra
09-05-07, 12:11 AM
all i can say is "wow" and youv a lot more time, patience and it would appear more money than me! haha keep up the good work, looking forward to seeing this at pvs!
Adam Moran
09-05-07, 02:18 PM
Well well well............
I've been on/in the Nova scene for a fair few years now (8 years!!) and ive always had a picture in my head of what id really like to have.
Been though a few novas and modified each of them to different levels... never forget the day i rocked up at Andy B's house and Rowntree says "For starters you can remove those ****ing led lights!" Oh how things have changed now!
I owe an awful lot to the guys ive met and the help the have given me.
James aka Jonlem has been the main driver in the last 2 years of the project and without his help we wouldnt be where we are today so BIG thankyou to him.
Cant wait to get down to PVS and have a chat with some old friends and see what the old girl does up the strip then its of to the Nurburg ring in September :D
nova ian
09-05-07, 03:44 PM
Awsome project mate. Very well put together and looks top notch.
Could I ask what oil catch tank are you using and where did you get it from??
Keep up the good work. And keep the pics coming!
Cheers
Ian
Its a Bailey Catch tank, I believe Ad got it off ebay brand new and for only ?5 more than they were going in the MIG group buy ;)
No doubt he will post a link when he sees the message
Adam Moran
09-05-07, 04:08 PM
Could I ask what oil catch tank are you using and where did you get it from??
Here you go...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290079772228
Adam Moran
09-05-07, 04:10 PM
On furthere inspection seems hes out of business :S
Got alot of bad feedback in the last month
nova ian
09-05-07, 04:23 PM
Thanks for the info guys.
Ian
Whose car is this?!
Is it yours Adam or Jonlem's?
I am confused!
Adam Moran
09-05-07, 05:00 PM
haha the car is mine sir
Altho JB's dont pretty much everything to it! :D
Not mine matey, sold mine a long time ago as converted back to Fords I'm afraid.
Good to still be involved though
Adam Moran
09-05-07, 05:12 PM
Jb post a few pics up of your project ;)
ha ha, it does exist honest lol
tbh the shell now looks worse than when we started as it has no paint and sits in primer covered in dust.
The axle as expensive as it was just looks like a big axle with a few shiny bits, all the expensive Quaife stuff you cant see lol
iirc I think I did start a thread on here about it, besides the new turbo, brakes and axle I dont think I've really got much more to report about it.
Ofcourse when I take your car to Glyns I'll be able to report back on how mine is actually coming along, I will also find out if he wants to sell me that ex Btcc Vectra engine he has just laying about !
The car is finally back on its wheels, all the brakes are bled up and there is just a list of minor things to be completed.
Typically those minor things take a lot longer than I first thought so the car hasn't been moved over to the engine builder for checkover and run up just yet.
I do hope to get it over there this week as I'm off to Italy next week and need to start running it in from the minute I arrive back in the uk.
Thanks to all those that have helped over the last week or so.
A few pics:
Exhaust modified and fitted:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adex.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adwiring1.jpg
Exhaust is hardly noticable from the rear, just need to do some polishing and re fit the 1.2i badge and thats the rear taken care of.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adwiring2.jpg
naff picture of it in its current state
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adwiring.jpg
very nice:thumb: i have a qwestion ? i have see people talk about a build manua for stich welding where can i get hold of it? thanksl
^^^ easy strip every seam in the engine bay and weld it up lol
Looking awesome Ad, shame your not on my doorstep anymore :(
Adam Moran
17-05-07, 09:30 AM
Still cant believe its nearly done, been aloooooong time in the making!
JB has worked his **** off on this so cant thank him enough.
This weekend im moving to southampton and will have zero internet access for the next few months so i'll let JB keep you up to date.
Thankyou so much for all your comments, advice, help on the project. This car would never have been born without Novaload (oldskool NL anyway!)
See you all at PVS :)
looking good mate, hope it goes smoothly for the final stages
No problem Ad, enjoyed having something to do with novas !
Going to be cutting it mega fine for PV but it "should" be there depending on getting it run in and mapped.
8 days left from when I return from Italy !
craig green
17-05-07, 12:37 PM
Why do Novas look so cool in a garage with the bumpers missing?
Adam Moran
04-06-07, 05:56 PM
Because they are cool Craig!
As you may have seen or not seen should i say the Nova wasnt at PVS.
Due to running out of time and JB/Me have waaaay to much on
I'm buying a house and going to be a dad, JB was jet setting to Italy with work so it just couldnt be done.
Will update shortly with where we are.
Well at last it runs !
I've only run it for about 10 mins max though as the dash is back at Stack having a white face and blue backlights fitted.
TB's need balancing though, they were perfect until I removed them and fitted them upside down !
I'll get a vid on you tube later, not much to hear except noisy lifters lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk1ZwC1_ToY
Depending on where u stand in the workshop the solid lifters sound so so noisy but its nice and quiet inside the car .............................. NOT lol
Well small update.
Most deadlines have gone out of the window due to Adam having a few important matters to attend to but it has to be ready for september when we go to the ring.
Since I lasted posted the oil cooler had started leaking which meant having it welded up twice, then the water pump started weeping a little so it was nigh on engine out to sort that fooker out
The dash is back and now fitted, just got the speed sender to fit then that will all work correctly.
Started making a seperate loom for the fuel pumps and level sender but I'm still waiting for the right sleeving to turn up as Royal mail once again are taking the piss .
Once the wiring is done nicely the seats can go in and hopefully it will be ready for a MOT, i've not got a great deal of time this week to do much but I hope to have it ready for its MOT before I go to Wales on holiday next week.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/stackday.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/stacknight.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/quaifeknob.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/invert.jpg
Might be more updates later this week if I'm lucky
Looking cool, liking the speedo setup.
krobinson
16-07-07, 09:18 PM
Looks ace, i need to steal that dash!
Keith
LOL, its only in there for a bit till we can find somthing more suitable.
Obviously it has a Escort to be fitted into ;)
Update as no doubt Ads not online to mention it lol
The car is on the road, MOT is booked for 9 am, it will be run in by Monday then booked in for mapping by the engine builder the following week :)
Few issues already though, geometry couldn't be any further out lol, brakes are truelly shocking so I'm not that convinced that the 16v master cylinder was the way to go after all :(
Besides that its probably the most noisy nova I've been in, possibly not as I'm far to used to driving around in a standard cavalier but I will be taking ear plugs for the running in process.
Next question is has anyone got the MBE software as I'd like to check what the map was the previous owner ran ;)
krobinson
14-08-07, 07:32 PM
Get some big mahoosiveee ear defenders for the ring trip!
Glad to see its all come together, cant wait to hear the figures it puts out when its run in! Should be superb.
Keith
Rick Draper
14-08-07, 08:23 PM
Few issues already though, geometry couldn't be any further out lol, brakes are truelly shocking so I'm not that convinced that the 16v master cylinder was the way to go after all :(
That makes 2 red novas that handle **** at the moment and dont want to slow down at all.
Get Easimap 5.5 from the sbd website matey. Its free! woohoo!
Well I've got it at home now ready for the MOT, I'm quite sure the handling issue is just simply geometry, nothing is really set properly yet so the drive to the MOT station tomorrow will be different lol
Brakes work ok actually, however pedal travel is awful, I'm not sure if that is me being to used to my own car though as V6 calipers to tend to give that problem.
Either way its so nearly road worthy, got 2 A4 pages worth of bits to do ready for the ring but nothing except geometry is getting done before its mapped and we know its all ok.
Another late update lol
The car passed its mot without any problems
Its booked onto Track and Roads rollers for tuesday evening.
So far whilst running it in I can tell the gearbox is going to fall to pieces so I have another arriving to be diffed and fitted before tuesday.
Whilst out last night the crank seal on the oil pump decided to fall out just before I pulled over (which was just as well) oil everywhere as you can imagine but nothing more than belt and seal replacement so al is good there.
A few pics from last night inc the worrying moment
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adnovamoving.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adengineonfire.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/adnovajacked.jpg
Only a few days now till Ad gets to take it for its first drive in 3 yrs and I think he will be impressed as I certainly am.
squealer
26-08-07, 10:48 PM
was looking well. what was the worrying moment
was looking well. what was the worrying moment
Whilst out last night the crank seal on the oil pump decided to fall out just before I pulled over (which was just as well) oil everywhere as you can imagine but nothing more than belt and seal replacement so al is good there.
Car is looking mint mate.
Nothing like a good action shot of a clean Nova!
Hope the ring goes well for you lot!
i'm liking this alot mate..
:thumb:
Nice one, good to hear its on the road :)
Got a early start tomorrow as sourced another gearbox to go in it as the main shaft bearings are all but gone on this one.
Will swap the quaife over and that should be that problem sorted, replace the seal, fit a new belt, change the coolant and all the senders to stack ones so it reads correctly on the dash then it will be ready for the rollers on tuesday after the alarm is fitted.
Cheers Rob, the ring will be fine I'm sure, I don't think either of us will push the car particulary hard as its really not had a good shakedown and there is those small handling issues that I want to iron out before it gets used real hard on track.
I'll put a few more pics from last night up in GC if anyone wants to have a look.
The guy who took the photos is coming to the ring in his P1 so expect loads more pics of that quality, hopefully less of the nova being fixed though lol
Adam Moran
27-08-07, 10:38 PM
All looking fantastic!
Cant wait to get back in the old girl!!!
New Golf's are great to drive but ive missed my Nova lol
Roll on Thursday ;D
Rollers/mapping tomorrow?
Wooo get on Ad, this has been in the makings since I did the XE on the Blue one lol!
Rick Draper
27-08-07, 11:03 PM
New Golf's are great to drive but ive missed my Nova
After the first drive of the nova you will be longing to get back behind the wheel of the golf! :thumb:
Rollers/mapping tomorrow?
yes 6pm at Track and Road
Rick, with brakes like it has I wouldn't blame him for preferring the golf lol
Once back from the ring it has to have the brakes looked at as they simply aren't adequate enough imo
Got a problem with the gearstick so if anyone reading this can look in technical and offer some advice I'd appreciate it :thumb:
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?p=732620#post732620
Rick Draper
28-08-07, 12:19 PM
Rick, with brakes like it has I wouldn't blame him for preferring the golf lol
Hmm that makes 2 novas with **** brakes then!
Its either the fact that V6 calipers just give huge amounts of pedal travel or the different m/c is making it worse.
After taking a sorted mk2 for a spin with a pedal box (which the brakes worked with 1mm of movement on the pedal) I think it will end up going down that route at a later date.
My AP's had less pedal travel than these ones !
Rick Draper
28-08-07, 01:56 PM
Its either the fact that V6 calipers just give huge amounts of pedal travel or the different m/c is making it worse.
After taking a sorted mk2 for a spin with a pedal box (which the brakes worked with 1mm of movement on the pedal) I think it will end up going down that route at a later date.
My AP's had less pedal travel than these ones !
Hmm my pedal box and wilwoods front and back are terrible on the pedal box!
Wrong cylinders then Rick, I nearly went through the windscreen of the car I drove the second I pressed the pedal !
Its either the fact that V6 calipers just give huge amounts of pedal travel
They do indeed.
Hope the mapping goes well for Ad :)
theres some good work there mate my mates are always down track an road (steve pitcher) top man they deffinately know there stuff there good luck
Adam Moran
28-08-07, 11:07 PM
Well its been on the rollers since 8pm and the last update was 26BHP lol
Should be all done around midnight so will post back then.
Rick Draper
29-08-07, 12:34 AM
Wrong cylinders then Rick, I nearly went through the windscreen of the car I drove the second I pressed the pedal !
I have the full range! .625, .70 and .75 and they all feel ****. Even fitted a bias velve inline to the rears and have wound that right off as well!
Now that was a late night !
So for a start the it turned out the cam timing wasn't quite right and without the engine builder being there we had to leave that alone rather than risk piston/valve contact.
We switched to a set of 411cc injectors as from the start it looked as if the creams were going to be at 100% duty cycle if the engine made what we aimed for.
Fuel pressure was set to a nice and safe 2.5 bar using those and the mapping commenced !
4 hrs later, lots of tea and enough burgers off the van to feed my village and we come out with 204hp, not what we were looking for at all but the blame was put down to the cam timing.
I was happy to leave it at that and get it sorted then come back after the Ring but Steve was convinced he could play around with the fuelling and ignition to get some more out of it.
I was once again asked if it had steel rods and a decent crank and so the rev limit was raised to 8700rpm !
The next few runs started to make me feel a bit nervous so I made another cuppa and started to smoke my 50th fag for the night, 10 mins later the engine is screaming its tits off and Stave gave me the big thumbs up
222.4hp @ 8640 !
Torque was down to 162lbft but Steve said there is more power left and a chunk of torque when the cam timing is exactly what it needs to be.
Being that it was 1am at this point we knocked it on the head and swiftly gave it a blat down the road whilst looking for somewhere to get some Optimax from followed by a rather long and noisy drive home.
Huge thanks to both Steves at Track and Road, they really stuck at it and got a much better result than even they thought they would get with how the cam timing was !
I'm not off to bed as I'm fooking shattered but I'll post the graphs up in the next few days as we now have to get all the cars ready for the ring.
Ad- prepare yourself for a bit of a mental ride lol
peester
29-08-07, 08:37 AM
lol; crazy midnight road rolling action
What injectors are you using now? I have picos (330 cc @ 3.5 bar) and they are barely ideling! lol
Nice result though!
Thought the standard cranks could only be revved to 9k!!lol
Adam Moran
29-08-07, 10:27 AM
What a fantastic result!!
I'm WELL cuffed :D :D
And to think theres more left in it..... think 222 will be plenty for me lol
What injectors are you using now? I have picos (330 cc @ 3.5 bar) and they are barely ideling! lol
Nice result though!
Thought the standard cranks could only be revved to 9k!!lol
411cc iirc, think they are the latest volvo Bosch injectors.
Anything over 9k is bad news for the crank but If he thought it would cause a problem he wouldn't of taken it that far.
Chances are when the cam timing is adjusted we will end up with 1 powerband not 2.
It tails off at 7700 ish iirc and then comes back on at 8k lol
Once its sorted I imagine we wont need to go above 8500k
Nice writeup, ive heard very good things about the Steves at track and road.
Good result that.
Whats the full engine spec?
Enjoy it Ad :) Lol
Its a mix up of loads of bits that came available to me a few years ago that Ad decided to put on his (what was at the time basic tb xe build) lol
Pocketed Accralites
Cat Cams Steel Rods
Lightened and balanced crank
Blydenstein cylinder head
QED 450 Camshafts
QED Double valve springs
QED Solid lifter conversion
Jenvey tapered tb's
MBE 967
Simspon manifold and system
Baffled sump
SBD Steel gears in the oil pump
Thats the main bits anyway
Thats a big spec. Sounds like it should make some more ponny's when it's all sorted.
Thats a big spec. Sounds like it should make some more ponny's when it's all sorted.
Maybe looking at around another 10-15hp more power he reckoned and we should see some of the torque back.
It seems like the head is flowing much better than expected but tbh it can't be far off its limit so I wouldn't expect a huge increase in power.
Not having much luck with gearboxes at the moment, done 2 in a week and looks like this one might be on its last legs already !
Being sensible I'm going to source one and take it to Germany with us incase the one in it lets us down lol :thumb: :D
Well I thought either Ad or I had updated this thread but obviously not lol
The trip to Germany didn't quite go to plan, along with a million other problems that we had prior to leaving we picked up a noise coming from the engine whilst passing Brussels :(
Rather than even attempt to fix it there we had the car recovered home and hired a car instead !
Once we were back the car was dropped back off at my engine builders who quickly found out that a shim had come off a valve ?! on starting it back up there was still a noise so he asked me to remove the engine so he could inspect it further.
So this weekend I got round to taking the engine out, after a few hours I was left with this :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/engineless1234.jpg
On closer inspection of the engine I found that a valve guide had broke off which is where the noise will of been coming from. So in a while I'll be dropping it off to have 16 bronze guides fitted along with some other bits then with any luck it will be back in time for a rolling road day myself and Ad are attending (Ford day)
If you look carefully in the pic you can see the guide :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/valveguidebroke.jpg
Not long till its back together with any luck !
blue_peg_16v
24-09-07, 08:55 PM
first time ive looked at the thread awsome car mate, hope it shocks a few fords
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