Hurray!

[James B]

decided the student life is not for me, bloody hate it infact. so after much consideration i have ditched my degree and accepted a job at Aston Martin at Gaydon building the engines for the new V8 vantage.

pay is shockingly good aswel :o

this is all good news after the shitty weekend i had. had a big black bloke shove a gun in my face, i got arrested, and then sunday had ?300 stolen. sounds all very bizarre, trust me it was the weekend from hell :(

James

[Jack]

had a big black bloke shove a gun in my face, i got arrested, and then sunday had ?300 stolen.
In that order? lol

Good luck with the job - see if you can "borrow" a vantage engine for a nova :lol:

[Stuart]

nice

thought the manufacture was being moved to cologne.

hmmm its a bit too far to commute lol. then agian i "only got a 2:2" so a ford based company wont employ me, but Visteon did lmao so i work for ford with my "only a 2:2" to55ers.

[James B]

indeed in that order mate.

:arrow: fight breaks out in club, my mates gettin smacked by this black bloke
:arrow: i run across and grab the bloke round the neck and drag him off
:arrow: his mate pulls out a gun tells me to drop him now, wasnt gonna argue :o
:arrow: everyone gets nicked but i got let out next day
:arrow: sunday lost my cashpoint card
:arrow: the theiving chavs somehow managed to take out ?290 from 3 different cashpoints before i had realised it had gone and reported it stolen

nightmare

[James B]

oh after reading the baa baa black sheep thread i now refer to them tossers not as black blokes, oh no, how about er, well, suggestions?

[sTuDeNt]

Yeah mate I know how it feels.. I had a knife pulled on me and a black bloke tried to stub me as I did not want to give him my mobile phone! I had a fight with him before he pulled a knife on me. Wish I had something that I could use against knife... Would have taught the ba5tard a lesson! :evil:

[Philsutton]

Yeah mate I know how it feels.. I had a knife pulled on me and a black bloke tried to stub
sorry to sound racist but they wonder why they have a bad reputation. My brothers got mugged at knife but by two black males off their face on crack, an so have a lot of my mates.

[Alex]

= Gaydon

he he, you said gay :lol:

[dunova]

londoner_2001 Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: Hurray!

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decided the student life is not for me, bloody hate it infact. so after much consideration i have ditched my degree and accepted a job at Aston Martin at Gaydon building the engines for the new V8 vantage.


What qualifications have you got? Just out of interest........

[James B]

very good A levels and passed peugeot technician exam. other than that, nothing, hence i was doing Motorsport Engineering degree to open up new doors. i got this job through contacts really rather than anything, but hopefully will prove myself once i get there.

[dunova]

I'm doing Motorsport engineering at the moment-just had an exam today. I'm struggling abit and not overly enjoying it but that's mainly because the first year is all the theory and after that you actually get down to doing the degree. At the moment it feels like being back at school :roll:

Sounds really good though mate, well done. It really helps to know people in the business and unfortunately i know no-one, except you :wink: Maybe for my years work experience you could put in a good word :D I might get in touch with Noble aswell, that would be awesome.

[Fester]

Hint: Most Uni degrees are shit

[Stuart]

fester is right, and EVEN more right is

most motorsport degrees are really really crap lol esp if its form the university of disney (swansea institute) lol

coventry and oxford brooks are the only "tollerable" msport degree centres.



ps alex said gay

[Jules]

off their face on crack

You said "crack"


ps alex said gay

You said "gay"

Tee hee!!
:lol:

[Alex]

but it is also true that a lot of employers wont even consider you if you don't have a degree

[dunova]

^^^ What he said. In most cases, just the fact you have done a degree shows hard work and dedication-regardless of the subject. Also, motorsport is mostly mechanical engineering, but with motorsport aspects to it and mechanical engineers will never have a hard time finding a decent job.

[Stuart]

but a msport degree teaches you specific mech engineering, eg light and who cares about endurance lol etcc

sometimes its just not applicable in the real world etc. most peeps form uni of disney arent even doing stuff related to msport lol. its jsut a few that did other things like aerodynamics that have gone into F1 etc

[dunova]

I know F1 is almost definately out of the picture-only the VERY top aerodynamics graduates get into F1. Light and endurance?? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd be very happy if at the end of it i got to work developing new engine/engine parts or body structure/integritiy. I'd really like work experience with Noble as they're a relatively new company and will go far.

[James B]

coventry and oxford brooks are the only "tollerable" msport degree centres.


i was doing mine at Coventry. good facilities etc but its just not the way i learn, i thought it would be more hands-on. As it stands all iv done is number crunching, could've been a degree in ANYTHING. if that makes any sense at all.

I was hoping to get into touring cars, dunno how im gonna do that now though :?

James

[James B]

by the way, dunova sorry mate dunno your real name) where you studying then?

James

[nova_kev]

you could probably 'buy' a degree off the net these days!!

Alot of companys these days ask for experience which uni grads struggle with, makes you wonder if a modern appretiship is the way forward as you have your foot in the door then :?

[Alex]

You could probably buy a degree these days. The problem started when government decided that everyone should have a degree. That is where all these shitty arty type degrees have come from, as not everyone is suited to academia or simply dont want, can't or dont have the mental capacity to study even further. Some degrees are VERY hard to pass and get a good grade, yet some can be done by simply being able to colour in without going over the lines.

[dunova]

Engineering is far from 'arty' lol

Agreed, you could buy a degree, but what do you do if you get a job and don't understand ANYTHING that's going on?! A degree isn't just a piece of paper, you do actually gain an indepth knowledge of a particular subject (in most courses anyway lol).

Londoner, i'm at UWE in Frenchay (just out of Bristol).

Terry :wink:

[Alex]

Yes, there is no way I would have my job now if I hadn't got a degree. The problem with degrees is that you dont get much "hands on" work which could apply to real life. The problem with going straight out there and not studying though is that you often dont understand the theory behind concepts or how things actually work

[dunova]

^^ definately agree on that. I'm really hoping next year will be a lot more hands on-the course lay out suggests it will be but that doesn't mean a lot lol.

I think my exam today really took the pish aswell. They only questionned us on one half of the term (when it was supposed to cover everything). So i wasted HOURS of revision and also, what if someone is really good at the other half and could pass easily but not so good at what we got tested on today? They'd be fooked.

Exams really aren't thought through imo. All 3 of the exams i've just had have only covered about half of the term (selectively)-this obviously isn't testing you overall ability on that subject. Some of the questions also count for a large part of the marks, but aren't necesserily easier or harder. I also hate being under time pressure-they shouldn't be testing how fucking quickly you can do! :evil:

For acedemics, lecturers and the like can be dumb as fuck.

:rant:

[Philsutton]

i was doing mine at Coventry. good facilities etc but its just not the way i learn, i thought it would be more hands-on. As it stands all iv done is number crunching, could've been a degree in ANYTHING. if that makes any sense at all.

I was hoping to get into touring cars, dunno how im gonna do that now though

James

you'll know my twin brothers then, they are doing a motors engineering degree at coventy.

[?Marty?]

All employers want degrees, even from the people that come to empty the 'female sanitary bins'.

They want degrees. BUt then also deem them worthless. I know a lot of business owners, in various industries, and they all say that they get people with very impressive qualifications, but they'd rather just have someone who can DO the job. And theory is far from practice.

Anyway i did a degree, and am going back to do another one. Just so i can get drunk, have showers froma can, and not shave for months. For 3 years.

Then spend another 3 years trying to find that ellusive 'graduate job'.

[James B]

i was doing mine at Coventry. good facilities etc but its just not the way i learn, i thought it would be more hands-on. As it stands all iv done is number crunching, could've been a degree in ANYTHING. if that makes any sense at all.

I was hoping to get into touring cars, dunno how im gonna do that now though

James

you'll know my twin brothers then, they are doing a motors engineering degree at coventy.

what are their names? i think I know who your on about, there were two twin lads on the course, very confusing. but cannot remember their names for the life of me, see if my memory can be jogged..

[Philsutton]

Their names are James an stephen Sutton. They also drive red corsa with a 130+ nova GTE engine in.

[Jack]

You could probably buy a degree these days. The problem started when government decided that everyone should have a degree. That is where all these s**t arty type degrees have come from .... some can be done by simply being able to colour in without going over the lines.

True... my cousin is studying towards a degree in "modern art" which my aunt & uncle keep pushing in my (and my sister's) face. Yet I don't see the use of it...? A degree in how to cut a cow in half? How to unmake a bed? etc! Neither me of my sister have degrees but we're still both in good jobs, and have gained 'life experience' which we can apply to almost any job.

Degrees in things like engineering and technical subjects, I consider to be "useful" degrees.... its these ones in Leisure and Tourism and Art and suchlike that get on my nerves. When I worked in Boots, we had a new supervisor who has qualifications and suchlike up to his eyeballs in Retail, Marketing, People Management, etc.... then when he came to actually DO the job he was about as much use as a bucket of sand at a petrol station fire! (although come to think of it, he'd therefore make excellent Boots managerial staff...)

[Philsutton]

modern art lmao thats one of the most pointless degrees i know of. You dont need a degree to be able to take a dump an not flush an give it a name, or fill a bag with rubbish. Dont get me started on artists as they wind me right up

[Alex]

but they'd rather just have someone who can DO the job. And theory is far from practice.


That is very true. However, it is much easier for someone who knows the theory to pick up (and understand) the practice, than it is someone who has the job and needs to learn the theory. A lot of people in jobs can do their job well, but are not knowledgeable about anything other than their particualr job if they dont have the theory.

IMO you need both theory and practice in most jobs to some degree. To gain theory you dont necessarily need qualifications, it depends on the job.

I think the theory should come first as it will help you to understand the practice better and help you to adapt, improve and develop the practice. Look at the driving test - the theory comes before the practical, yet you still need both.

[Alex]

The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?" The graduate with an Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with that?"

[James B]

lol and so true as well
:lol: