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YellowTurbo
21-10-04, 08:55 PM
I done this today to a set of track control arms here are a couple of pics :)
sorry about the size of the pics.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bigmark82/pics/DSC00930.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bigmark82/pics/DSC00243.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bigmark82/pics/DSC00242.JPG
Ste_Nova
21-10-04, 09:09 PM
should have welded right the way along the bits they the holes in... then captived the nuts to the bottom ball joints
Stuart
21-10-04, 09:32 PM
ah feck, captive nuts on the balljoints! now thats what i should have done lol

ah well the spacer tubes will be fine, its a tight fit anyway as the balljoint has to be ground down to fit in and then clamped up good and tight ;)


nice plates btw.
YellowTurbo
21-10-04, 09:46 PM
what are captive nuts?

Show me a pic of some you have done Ste.
Ste_Nova
21-10-04, 09:51 PM
weld the nuts onto the ball joints... then you don't need to leave it open to get a socket in
YellowTurbo
21-10-04, 09:53 PM
o i see but where would the ARB bolt to becuse it is spaced down so that it misses the f28
Ste_Nova
21-10-04, 10:13 PM
ahh... so you are swapping the tie bar and bottom ball joints over and using spacers... well on one i did i welded the spacers into the arm... then put a holed plate over the top and welded that in... so the arm was all one solid bit
YellowTurbo
22-10-04, 08:38 AM
yes i was thinking fo doing that, do you think it would be alot stonger then the ones i have done above?
ollster
22-10-04, 09:17 AM
how thick are the plates that you have used mate. I expected to get these as part of my harry hockly plating kit but didnt so am considering making my own + has anyone got any more pictures of strenthened arms? Also i am running TAS lowered tie bar mounts, so i am guessing that the bottom ball joint and tiebar arrangement bolts to the tca the same as before with just the front mounting point of the lowered brackets being cheanged (sorry if that didnt make much sense lol). Im just runing a small block 1600 16v by the way and am looking ro the best handling setup

Thse are the brackets i have bought second hand:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/ollster/Random/Tas.bmp
Ste_Nova
22-10-04, 10:05 AM
well when they bend they usually bend where they are clamped by the tie bar and ball joint... and you havn't added any strength there

for the non f28 engine you just spacer down the fronts with the above brackets.... again it would be better to weld in a block of steel rather than use the supplyed aly block... also did you get the stainless tube that you cut down to change the castor... approx 11mm to keep it standard
ollster
22-10-04, 10:53 AM
also did you get the stainless tube that you cut down to change the castor... approx 11mm to keep it standard

are you talking to me about this ste? if so what exactly do you mean?[/quote]
Ste_Nova
22-10-04, 02:12 PM
they have adjustable castor... you use a tube spacer cut down to adjust it
Snowface
22-10-04, 04:03 PM
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=157265

may be relevant.
ollster
22-10-04, 04:34 PM
they have adjustable castor... you use a tube spacer cut down to adjust it

no i didnt ste, have you got any pictures of what you mean. Do you mean a spacer thats goes onto where the tie bar mounts to push it further back
Ste_Nova
22-10-04, 04:54 PM
yup needs to be 11mm back to be in the standard position
Stuart
22-10-04, 05:19 PM
14/15mm is a nice ammount to push it back by
benji
22-10-04, 07:13 PM
would this strengthening make a noticable difference?
YellowTurbo
23-10-04, 11:31 AM
becuase i have got a F28 i have had to swap the ball joint and the ARB round.

The setup goes

Ball Joint
|
Track Control Arm
|
Spacer
|
ARB

What is the ideal length of the spacers between the Track Control arm and ARB?