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Anonymous
07-11-01, 10:04 AM
is the new 1.8 16v corsa engine a "big block"???
dont think i'v seen any nova's around with that conversion so it could be a first?

also would the electrics be a nightmare??

Anonymous
07-11-01, 10:57 AM
http://www.fish4cars.co.uk/roadtests/newcar_preview/newcar_preview_corsa.html

Anonymous
07-11-01, 11:17 AM
No its a smalll block engine and would be a very nice engine to put in a nova. A future plan for me i think.
Mingle

Don't believe anything i say!!!!!

Anonymous
07-11-01, 12:21 PM
you have major wiring probs with coded ecu's and keys etc..... some vaux bhps

156bhp - 2.0 16v astra mk2
130bhp - 2.0 8v cav mk2
124bhp - 1.8 16v corsa c sri
115bhp - 1.8 8v cav mk2
108bhp - 1.6 16v corsa gsi
100bhp - 1.6 8v nova gsi
72bhp - 1.4 8v nova sr

so it looks like u are better off with big power 1.6 8v/16v or 2.0 16v...

16v Nova - Toolkit, Trouble, Points and great expence all come as standard :)

e reg shell almost gone!!

Anonymous
07-11-01, 03:09 PM
ha ha mingle could be another Novaload transplant race!!! ;)

aprox how much lighter will the 1.8 16v be compared to the 2.0 16v astra??

Anonymous
07-11-01, 05:00 PM
Would basically be the same weight as the 1.6 16v (however much that is?).

A well good engine for the nova but it would be v.expensive atm as its brand new.

I have heard that you can get the ecu's decoded though.

Anonymous
07-11-01, 07:21 PM
Mingle would Dicko sort your loom for you? LMFAO

They say "good things come to those who wait" and me and John have waited longer than most!

Anonymous
08-11-01, 01:03 AM
It's gonna cost a fair bit for one of these engines, as it was only launched in the Corsa in March this year.

Here's the spec. (taken from the 2001 Models Ed.1 Brochure):

1.8i 16v ECOTEC-4 Petrol
Capacity: 1796cc.
Max. power: 125PS (92kW) @ 6000rpm.
Max. torque: 165Nm (121.7 lb.ft) @ 4600rpm.

Configuration: Four-cylinder, 16-valve unit with double overhead camshafts, alloy cylinder head, variable intake manifold, hydraulic tappets and electric cooling fan. Torsional vibration damper. Maintenance-free poly-vee belt ancillary drive.
Engine management: HSFI 2.1 with sequential multi-point fuel injection with dual-spray injectors, air mass metering and deceleration fuel cut-off. Electronic mapped direct ignition system and spark timing with selective knock control.
Emission control: Exhaust gas recirculation. Activated charcoal evaporation control canister. Lambda sensor and three-way closed-loop catalytic converter.

I wonder if anyone would try and fit the "Easytronic gearbox"???

ONE MAJOR THING TO CONSIDER with the 1.8 16v is that it only comes in the SRi, and it has "Cruise Control" as standard, so it's probably built in with the engine loom.
They also have ABS and traction control......may be linked with the engine loom in some way maybe ???

Anonymous
08-11-01, 08:57 AM
If I did the conversion I'd ditch the engine management, and run with TB's anyway.

**Why take 16V's onto the track when u can use 8?**

Anonymous
08-11-01, 01:04 PM
i doubt that tbs will be made for the 1.8 cause the 1.6 16v is allready a well developed unit with up to 300bhp possable

16v Nova - Toolkit, Trouble, Points and great expence all come as standard :)

e reg shell almost gone!!

Anonymous
08-11-01, 01:43 PM
U can do things without buying ready made parts Ste. Throttle bodies will be universal, and the manifold is easy to make. I've been toying with idea of converting my carbs to TB's. Its possible.

**Why take 16V's onto the track when u can use 8?**

Anonymous
08-11-01, 05:43 PM
something you must remember tho, i bet everyone told karthic that you couldnt fit 19"rims!????

im gonna do a bit more research before make'n any decisions, it was just an idea and i'll end up do'n the 2.0 16v conversion neway!!!! :D

Anonymous
08-11-01, 11:35 PM
It'd be a bitch. Its all drive by wire, built in cruise control and traction control straight to the management. And less power than a 2 litre.

Anonymous
09-11-01, 03:07 AM
brian.....at one time, they said you couldn't fit 17s on a Nova!

Remembering back to old Maxy P's and FC's, there was an article with a Nova with 17's and they were like "wow....look at what he's achieved...17's on a Nova...wow"

Just shows how peeps can prove the "experts" wrong.

Anonymous
09-11-01, 01:25 PM
Yep..true

Remember this also...the new Corsa engine and all the wiring was obviuosly fitted to a bare shell...Strip a Nova back to bare shell and your in the same position

It would probably be a nightmare doing all the wiring but its gotta be possible:)

Anonymous
09-11-01, 01:26 PM
Yep..true

Remember this also...the new Corsa engine and all the wiring was obviuosly fitted to a bare shell...Strip a Nova back to bare shell and your in the same position

It would probably be a nightmare doing all the wiring but its gotta be possible:)

Anonymous
09-11-01, 01:27 PM
oops...Sorry guys, got a bit impatient therex-(

Anonymous
09-11-01, 02:12 PM
if the ecu gets no signals from ABS/cruise control etc it ignores em and continues to work normally. as ste mentioned the coding for the imobiliser could be a problem. one way is to just get the transponder aswell so that you have an imobiliser included.

Wiring an ecu is no harder than wiring an amp up. in many ways drive by wire is much better than using cables because you can route the wire any way you like without causing problem where as you are restricted with a cable.

Dave Pearce, hmm he mixes like a man with no hands

Anonymous
09-11-01, 02:21 PM
new pedel box then
if it has fby accelerator
and it has a hydroilc clutch
and the gearchange has 3 cables not a linkage


16v Nova - Toolkit, Trouble, Points and great expence all come as standard :)

e reg shell almost gone!!

Anonymous
09-11-01, 05:44 PM
Possibly slightly different engine but i think PAG is doing 1.8 16v from astra

Good girls go to heaven, bad girls come with me :D

Anonymous
09-11-01, 07:32 PM
Wiring an ECU up is more difficult that wiring an amp, the amp tends to only want to see audio and power not 8 bit parity checked pulses!

Anonymous
11-11-01, 03:37 PM
was wrong about pags. his is the big block 1.8


Good girls go to heaven, bad girls come with me :D

Anonymous
11-11-01, 09:42 PM
8 bit parity, isnt a parity check 9 bit becuase it uses an extra bit ontop of the standard 8 bits as the parity check?

Anonymous
12-11-01, 10:52 PM
No it uses 7 for the data and the 8th for the check digit. That way it can hex encode the diagnostics.

Anonymous
12-11-01, 11:57 PM
hhmmm, so it uses a parity check within the byte? bit of a waste that is