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M_U_T_A_N_T21
13-09-04, 10:29 PM
well i desided to rebuild my engine last week due to it was smoking when started up in the morning and it wasnt presurising at all so i thought id start with valve stem seals and then do my sump gasket not a good idea been as i was still stoned and lagging from the night before well i wasnt happy anyway when i finished the job so i knew somthink was gonna go tits up well it started and sounds sweet but it smokes worst than eva i also think the heads on its way out it looked pourous to me but i just slapped it back together not giving a monkeys please shoot me

do you think its worth just buying a second hand engine if i do ill be sure to be in the right frame of mine when i do it

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check this big lump of silicon in the oil pick up

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im just glad i left it till after trax to do it

M_U_T_A_N_T21
13-09-04, 10:32 PM
ok guys what would you do id re do it but is it worth it if the heads knacked

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Col_Mk1
14-09-04, 01:41 AM
nice car

Will F
14-09-04, 09:47 AM
So what is actually wrong with it?
When did you find all that crap in the pick up?

That wouldnt cause it to smoke anyway. what colour is the smoke. ALL cars smoke a bit when cold. Its called condensation.

Stuart
14-09-04, 09:51 AM
silicone by itself wont cause much damage

and maybe working on the car while under the influenece of drugs or alcohol is a BAD idea

burgo
14-09-04, 01:04 PM
i disagree cambridge u should try weldin when your pissed funny as fook onistly

Stuart
14-09-04, 01:15 PM
ive done it when hung over and it just makes a bad thing worse.

burgo
14-09-04, 01:17 PM
yes but if you do it when your pissed you concentrate more

Stuart
14-09-04, 02:06 PM
onistly

i can make an ejumakated guess as to what that means but for the less vocabulary capable people on here that means?!

Ben
14-09-04, 02:44 PM
Just out of intrest but did you try to do it in halfords car park just after you bought a tourqe wrench?

Riggy
14-09-04, 05:53 PM
:D :D lol

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:05 PM
So what is actually wrong with it?
When did you find all that crap in the pick up?

That wouldnt cause it to smoke anyway. what colour is the smoke. ALL cars smoke a bit when cold. Its called condensation.

narr its burning oil white and it stinks i know its the stem seals but i dont know weather to re do it due to the heads might be fucked

im thinking second hand engine off ebay and mint it up while i have the time

Hairboi
14-09-04, 08:07 PM
yes u have fucked it :lol:

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:09 PM
Just out of intrest but did you try to do it in halfords car park just after you bought a tourqe wrench?

why do you say that have you done that before :) :) :) :) :)

Hairboi
14-09-04, 08:10 PM
no but u have

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:13 PM
yes u have f**k it :lol:

the bad thing about it i dont really remeber much about that job an i only did it last week watch it go bang next week

believe it or not i am a fully qulified mecanic i supose i got a big head

burgo
14-09-04, 08:13 PM
hmmmm me thinkin this hairboi is another silly little boy from a saxo site

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:14 PM
i agree BAN HIM

Hairboi
14-09-04, 08:14 PM
saxos are cooooooooooooooool

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:17 PM
saxos are so shite i just leave them out the mirror when they sit there next to me reving there poxy little lawn mower engines

burgo
14-09-04, 08:18 PM
mutant chill mate hes gone now, stupid little paxo boy

Mike.
14-09-04, 08:18 PM
saxos are shit i agree there just crap and that hairboy wants fuckin castrating for comin on this site and bieng a prick

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:21 PM
O lord wont you buy me a mercedes benz

epo
14-09-04, 08:21 PM
hmmmm me thinkin this hairboi is another silly little boy from a saxo site

he's a lincolnshire lad were all off are tits from round here :lol:

wisewood
14-09-04, 08:22 PM
It's alright i've already banned him after he posted his nova or saxo poll, for the second time, after i deleted the first one :roll:

Anyone spots any more saxo loving, nova hating chavs let me know.

epo
14-09-04, 08:25 PM
It's alright i've already banned him after he posted his nova or saxo poll, for the second time, after i deleted the first one :roll:

Anyone spots any more saxo loving, nova hating chavs let me know.

i think phill suttons one in disguise :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mike.
14-09-04, 08:25 PM
thats bloody true epo mate :lol: :lol: :lol:

(the lincolnshire bit that is)

burgo
14-09-04, 08:25 PM
lol nice one wisey

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 08:30 PM
so whats every1 think i should do shall i just get another engine theres some good engines on there at the moment have a look

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2489245292&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2489417446&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

Mike.
14-09-04, 08:32 PM
up to you mate i would put another engine in it :wink: but at the end of the day its up to you

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 09:01 PM
this was the head gasket


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burgo
14-09-04, 09:04 PM
i cant see ne fing rong with that

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 09:09 PM
thats why i think the heads gone just under the dizzy where the water pipe gos into the side of the head the alloy is all rotted and pourous but only on the end

TWAG
14-09-04, 10:15 PM
Theres no way you can tell if a headgasket is ok by looking at a picture. :roll:

If your a mechanic then imo you should use the money you were going to spend on a new engine, to rebuild yours, if your worried about the head you could pick a second hand one up for about ?50

If you buy another engine then it could be just as fucked as yours and your be back were you started.

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 10:41 PM
Theres no way you can tell if a headgasket is ok by looking at a picture. :roll:

If your a mechanic then imo you should use the money you were going to spend on a new engine, to rebuild yours, if your worried about the head you could pick a second hand one up for about ?50

If you buy another engine then it could be just as f**k as yours and your be back were you started.

i was planing on buying an engine and minting it up total rebuild the lot i carnt do that on the engine in at the moment due to i carnt do without the car id prefere to take my time rebuilding it also

burgo
14-09-04, 10:48 PM
gd plan mutant get a new lump and completely rebuild it make a nice mint reliable engine, and i sed it looks ok didnt say use the head gasket did i, i would never use one again anyway

M_U_T_A_N_T21
14-09-04, 10:53 PM
not advisable, i think that might be my plan tho i know then its not gonna die on me

burgo
14-09-04, 11:06 PM
mind you you can buy suposedly re-usable head gaskets now!!! not sure id trust em personnelly

Dave
14-09-04, 11:27 PM
save up some money an buy a coscast head least you know you'll have a good head then do a complete re-build of engine

Will F
15-09-04, 09:22 AM
I am confused. You say the head is porous due to the fixing undere the dissy is rusty???
Are you raelly a mechanic? Do you know what a porous head is?

And white smoke isnt oil burning, its usually blue.

Stuart
15-09-04, 09:50 AM
Wills 1.6 "rally" engine smoked like a mofo and that was bore wear, smoke was white (novel) but only ubder load. at idle it was fine!


i too question your mechnic status as to fully identify a porus head you need it pressure tested

a rebuild wouldnt be a bad thing, so get a cheap nasty 2L 8V or even drop back to a small blacok to keep the car moving until you get your existing XE rebuilt (PROPERLY AND NOT UNDER THE INFLUENCE!!!)

or get someone who will do it right to rebuild it

Ben
15-09-04, 10:44 AM
Ive got an XE in various bits you can buy if you want to rebuild one PM me for details.

On a diff note, we had a Mechanic come buy an engine and ask us what the cam housing was for :lol:

Riggy
15-09-04, 04:54 PM
Just out of intrest but did you try to do it in halfords car park just after you bought a tourqe wrench?

why do you say that have you done that before :) :) :) :) :)

i think that has something to do with fitting a power cap at trax lol :D

M_U_T_A_N_T21
15-09-04, 08:43 PM
I am confused. You say the head is porous due to the fixing undere the dissy is rusty???
Are you raelly a mechanic? Do you know what a porous head is?

And white smoke isnt oil burning, its usually blue.

never really seen a pourus head yet but i kinda know what isnt normal i just dont know what you call it the tube that comes out the side of the head which the water pipe gos onto that is all rusted and fucked

and as for the smoke i didnt really look what shade colour it was it looked white from the rear view mirror

but then the head face was ok the alloy didnt have anythink unusual

M_U_T_A_N_T21
15-09-04, 08:44 PM
Ive got an XE in various bits you can buy if you want to rebuild one PM me for details.

On a diff note, we had a Mechanic come buy an engine and ask us what the cam housing was for :lol:

have you got any pictures of the bits so i can see what im buying nice one for the offer

M_U_T_A_N_T21
15-09-04, 08:56 PM
Wills 1.6 "rally" engine smoked like a mofo and that was bore wear, smoke was white (novel) but only ubder load. at idle it was fine!


i too question your mechnic status as to fully identify a porus head you need it pressure tested

a rebuild wouldnt be a bad thing, so get a cheap nasty 2L 8V or even drop back to a small blacok to keep the car moving until you get your existing XE rebuilt (PROPERLY AND NOT UNDER THE INFLUENCE!!!)

or get someone who will do it right to rebuild it

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epo
15-09-04, 09:01 PM
not bin funny but those pics are terrible
i can only read
the city and guilds and qualifications bit

M_U_T_A_N_T21
15-09-04, 09:04 PM
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: you lot arnt any help :evil: :evil: :evil:

epo
15-09-04, 09:59 PM
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: you lot arnt any help :evil: :evil: :evil:

:lol: am only telling you what i can see i dont know nowt about your car
you put up a dodgy quality pic which i ant even read what do you expect
i am not in the slightest bit bothered what city and guilds you have
i happen to have six city and guilds qulifications an feel no need to take pics of them and post them up :roll: :!:

TWAG
16-09-04, 12:24 AM
City and guilds isnt much more than a gcse..........

Ben
16-09-04, 08:23 AM
City and guilds isnt much more than a gcse..........

I agree i have no GCSE's but 4 C&G's.

burgo
16-09-04, 02:11 PM
qualifications dont mean shit!!!! theres a lad at work called chris hes bin on his apprenticeship for just under two years and he doesnt even know what a main jet is. i laughed my head off when he asked what it was, still its only cos he just plugs a computer in and it tells him what to do he ent got a clue how to do real mechanics

Alex
16-09-04, 02:32 PM
I beg to differ that qualifications "Don't mean shit".

http://www.novaload.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=98857&start=0

However, some are more useful than others

Stuart
16-09-04, 02:41 PM
bungle (oops burgo), to be fair in this day an age with most new vehicles being pcm controlled (thats powertrain control module) its understandable that a "new" person on the scene wont be likely to encounter carbs and distributors etc as they are becoming obsolete with the injection systems becoming widespread.

granted if you wish to be a "good" mechanic then a varied knowledge of BOTH systems is needed.

and a C&G may not be "worth" much but its still a qualification.
but claiming to be a mechanic and then stating that a rusty water pipe/gallery constitutes a porus head then you have a bit to learn still.


when out in germany i was employed as a mechanic, yet i NEVER reffered to myself as one because im not and probably never will be. just a keen amature.

pornstarr
16-09-04, 04:44 PM
narr its burning oil white and it stinks i know its the stem seals but i dont know weather to re do it due to the heads might be f**k

Correct me if I'm wrong yeah......

but doesn't oil burn blue-ish smoke, and water burns white smoke! Which would then indicate you've got a problem with coolant getting into the combustion chambers/head......

Just a stab in the dark. :roll:

M_U_T_A_N_T21
16-09-04, 06:40 PM
i was just trying to state that i know what im doing but due to my neck isnt really that long to reach all the way around the car while reving it i carnt really see what colour the smoke it is i dair ask my bird to rev it for me due to its like trying to get blood out of a stone but anyway i know whats wrong with it i dont need to prove myself to you lot i do engine work alday long at work i know whats normal an whats not i just put it down to being big headed at the time and off my face wasnt the best of ideas so boo hoo :? :? :o :o :D :D