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krobinson
27-08-04, 11:15 PM
Engines now back home, finished. Just needs a few bits n bobs and then safely loaded back into my enginebay! :D
I'd like to thank Steven Gault for everything, he know's his stuff, and done a fantastic job on the engine. Its not only filled with fresh parts, it also looks fresh on the outside. He's also been fantastic with answering all my questions, and teaching me loads about how my engine works, and how to get gains! Cheers Mate!
And here it is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/engine1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/engine2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/engine3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/engine4.jpg
Shouldnt be TOO long now :D
Keith
that looks well amazing how much has all that cost?
Ohh dear i think i just had a sex wee...nice one mate :wink:
?Marty?
27-08-04, 11:23 PM
that's absolutely AMAZING!
oh and i NEED an engine. lol
-Bruce-
27-08-04, 11:26 PM
that looks great nice work steven!! he really does know his stuff!!
bruce
that looks soooo lovely, wow!!! whats the spec/output of that beast???
krobinson
27-08-04, 11:39 PM
I'm waiting on Steven sending me a complete Spec. But basically its got some nice headwork, t40's, piper 285 cam, vernier, bored to 1331, and lightened and balanced fly, and balanced crank.
To go into great detail would take age's tho, but its been build with all new parts, new valves, tappets/followers, pistons etc etc
Output? wont know till the car's finished, but the rollers that steven use's are very very accurate.
Keith
krobinson
27-08-04, 11:49 PM
whats the plaque say?
Engine Prepared by Steven Gault
Here's the engine when i first got it!! Big difference eh?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/before.jpg
Keith
elsey197
27-08-04, 11:55 PM
that looks mint mate bet you cant wait to get that back together and in car. how long has the blue one been off the road for now?
krobinson
28-08-04, 12:01 AM
how long has the blue one been off the road for now?
2 LONG years this december! It should be finished by then tho. And i'll have it all run in and tested for the belgium trip in May!
Keith
elsey197
28-08-04, 12:02 AM
cool, id love to do that belgium trip, maybe ill have to get another nova before then :P
omg..WOW :o
spotless...that is one brilliant job he's done there
dan_mk1
28-08-04, 01:57 AM
That looks awsome mate! very clean! be a shame to get it dirty! lol
vernier pulleys look well cool! lol
NovaNeil
28-08-04, 09:05 AM
Thats awesome mate! Really Really Clean... Just like the rest of your car! Fair play.
More pics when she's in please :D Can't wait to see it at the shows next year.
Neil
looks so nice mate
has done a job to be proud off :D
krobinson
28-08-04, 09:19 AM
Thats awesome mate! Really Really Clean... Just like the rest of your car! Fair play.
More pics when she's in please :D Can't wait to see it at the shows next year.
Neil
You be at trax? Might get a chat to you there!
Keith
Excellent Stuff Keith. I remember when mine was all built up and ready to go in the car, it makes it seem like there isnt too far to go before the cars back up and running :)
Jim
HEVY-nova
28-08-04, 12:10 PM
very nice, you must be chuffed mate
krobinson
28-08-04, 06:28 PM
Yeah i'm in love with it. Glad i went the route of a Tuned 1.3, seeing the engine home makes it all worth while!
Keith
so now u have a privateplate?????
1331 cc. just change your name to Neil Dave Zumbokovic and u fine!
LOL!!
Lookin good keith.....
That looks absolutely awesome mate, looks too nice to use :lol:
What sort of BHP are you expecting from it.
Al Wilson
28-08-04, 08:30 PM
Dribble. :o
krobinson
28-08-04, 09:00 PM
That looks absolutely awesome mate, looks too nice to use :lol:
What sort of BHP are you expecting from it.
Its hard to tell, should be over 100bhp! I'll not know for sure till i have it tested, maybe before x-mas!
Keith
you need to move to wakey now so i can have a look at in the flesh so to speak
that really is impressive mate. good work that man.
just to put a spanner in the works tho. wouldent the money have been better spent on a 1.4 or 1.6 16v rather than the 8v, or even a 1.6 as if its your road car then your not restricted to engine size like you are in competition. (i can see why you have done it tho as im doing an 8v just cos i love the power they give)
krobinson
29-08-04, 11:30 AM
I coulda spend the money on a 2.0L turbo, and had 200bhp and more!
Like Cambridge once said:
Why tune a 1.0, get a 1.2
Why tune a 1.2, get a 1.3/1.4
Why tune a 1.3/1.4, get a 1.6
Why tune a 1.6, get a 2.0L 16v
Why tune a 2.0L 16v, get a 2.0L turbo!
Where does it end?
I did it as a starting point, to learn about engines, and mostly because of insurance. I'm in Northern ireland, where my insurance will be over 2k for this car as it stands! maybe more!
Keith
:o
true but you have nearly a 1.4 there now with 100 bhp. with the mods and the cash you have spent on that you could have a 1.4 16v with 160 bhp or even more.
i do love small 8v ( or even big like mine) engines that have been put together well as it proves that they really can be competative
HI,
im with keith on this... Ive gone for a 8v as they provide an excellent point to start from if you want to learn about engines, building techniques etc. Also a 1.4/1.6 16v with 150+horse or whatever it may have would cost a proportional amount more to insure.
Also being a pessamistic bastard, i like having eight less valves to bend :P
Phil
Also being a pessamistic ba***d, i like having eight less valves to bend :P
Phil
me too mate. love the fact that you just cant kill an 8v either. lol
S_Gault
29-08-04, 07:31 PM
Ive yet to see a 1.4 16v or 1.6 16v thats in a road car with that kind of power,.
Of the ones Ive set up on rollers for people they are well short!!! fairy tales.
But then again- Keith knows of the 185bhp 1.6 one i done recently! but its about 2K dearer than his engine!
Most people go for a bigger engine coz they have no idea of what a good small engine is like!
Steven
whitty_nova_1300sr
29-08-04, 11:00 PM
thts fucking sweet as m8 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
krobinson
29-08-04, 11:41 PM
Of the ones Ive set up on rollers for people they are well short!!! fairy tales.
I like to call them "Max power figures"
People add up BHP and rarely get it properly tested, and some go to bad RR's.
Carbs, +20bhp, Cam +10bhp, headwork +15bhp, manifold +5bhp, exhaust, +5bhp, oh my SRI must be 135BHP now!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Keith
Snowface
30-08-04, 09:32 AM
Ive yet to see a 1.4 16v or 1.6 16v thats in a road car with that kind of power,.
Of the ones Ive set up on rollers for people they are well short!!! fairy tales.
But then again- Keith knows of the 185bhp 1.6 one i done recently! but its about 2K dearer than his engine!
Most people go for a bigger engine coz they have no idea of what a good small engine is like!
Steven
there's the 1.4 16v N/A nova on here that was at PV (think its CP's)
thats producing 140-150bhp.
cp's isn't really a road car though
Why not? It used to get used on the road before slicks were fitted.. The other one from Velos has even more power as it revs a lot more.. if you look at the power graph on CP's engine the power just goes in a straight line until the rev limit kicks in..
Steven Gault just needs to get his head out of his own arse.. :roll:
Looks stunning Keith, if it goes half aswell as it looks I'd be chuffed :)
But then again- Keith knows of the 185bhp 1.6 one i done recently! but its about 2K dearer than his engine!
Just out of interest, how much has Keiths engine cost?
Jim
S_Gault
30-08-04, 04:24 PM
well if you take the time to read what i say..
i said of those that ive set up.. all arent
play the numbers game if you want.. your the fool if you do.
On the track is where it counts , go and watch my engines.. you'll see the time i spend putting them together so i have little time for putting it up my head up my arse.
I rely on cold hard fact dyno figures and flowbench developement, not advertising bullshit or internet chat..
For example- heres some data you wont get with your boy racer engine suppliers.. 16V vaux head on the flowbench flows- around 120cfm depending on casting.. so 1 valve flows 60 odd. That valve is 32mm.
Keiths 1.3SR head flows 73cfm on a 33mm valve! Draw your own conclusions on the various valve effieciencys!
Both done at 10inH2O pressure drop.
Steven
wisewood
30-08-04, 04:47 PM
... ... and to answer the question - how much did the engine work cost?
jkhilton
30-08-04, 05:14 PM
personally I think the little lovers tiff between breeny and s_gault should be kept to PM's :lol:
The engine looks great Keith.
... ... and to answer the question - how much did the engine work cost?
Maybe we should ask Keith in private? He might not want Steven telling everyone how much Keith has spent, lol.
Jim
wisewood
30-08-04, 05:28 PM
i'll rephrase then.
If i wanted the same thing, how much would it cost me :lol:
krobinson
30-08-04, 05:59 PM
Steven Gault just needs to get his head out of his own arse.. :roll:
No need for that!
Steven know's his stuff, if you choose not to believe him, thats your call, but no need for the remarks!
He's had loads of car's with owners Claiming huge figures, only to find they aint what they seem. Dont tell me you've never seen anyone claim to have 200bhp, only to have 170 on the rollers!
Cheers for the comments guys!
Keith
so...
how much did it cost ? :lol:
wisewood
30-08-04, 06:51 PM
:D I know :D Mr Robinson sent me a PM :lol:
krobinson
30-08-04, 08:25 PM
so...
how much did it cost ? :lol:
Alot. :P
Keith
krobinson
01-09-04, 05:46 PM
Spec:
Block Bored & honed to +1mm, Crank sized and journals polished, Rods fitted with ARP competition big end bolts, New mains and big end bearings, End-float reset to middle limit, New Pistons balanced to within 0.1g of each other.
Flywheel- substantially lightened and rebalanced along with whole rotating assembly, New oil pump (primed) New Water Pump.
1.3sr head - fitted with new guides, new valves, new hydraulic followers, head modified to SG2 spec (std sized valves modified to suit), re-cut valve seats.
Inlet manifold ported and Doweled to head. Weber 40DCOE151 Carbs with Weber linkage, Piper BP285cam fitted with Piper alloy Vernier and timed to 108 on solid follower. New followers (non std)
Keith
wisewood
01-09-04, 05:52 PM
That is actually REALLY good for what you paid if you ask me. Most impressive.
Hope it runs as well as you hope mate. Would be good to see the car perform as well as it looks.
There are lots of road cars fitted with 1.6 & 1.4 16vs producing accurate 150BHP +
krobinson
01-09-04, 05:55 PM
Yeah, i'm impressed with it!
It should preform pretty well too, should be impressive for a 1.3.
Keith
why wont you say how much you paid ? :?
S_Gault
01-09-04, 10:34 PM
it would be very unprofessional of me to tell someone how much it cost.
each engine i do is done slighyl diff, as each owner wnats diff things
and also each engine needs different things to make it servicable again.
Steven
NuTtY nOvA fLaIr
01-09-04, 11:39 PM
Hi Keith,
By the the looks of the finished product it looks like its been worth the wait, spot on im really liking it, after having a chat with you on msn ive decided to keep my nova and im goin for a rebuilt 1.4SR running T40s it wont be as high spec as yours but ill get done what i can with the funds available. Cant wait to see yours at the shows next year :D
Craig
a similar spec to keiths can be achived for a lot less than it cost him, his engine has been totally rebuilt with new parts through-out. my 1400 has cost me around a grand, maybe a bit less. i'd have though his will be more powerful than mine, and even if it's not(and i will be surprised if it's not) then it will certianly last longer.
:D I know :D Mr Robinson sent me a PM :lol:
sent me the pm first :P :lol:
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