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badnova
16-07-04, 11:13 PM
what is the best way to take the wheel well out and how do i make it smooothe

J4MES
16-07-04, 11:19 PM
my guess would be to angle:twisted:grind the b*****d :twisted: out then weld in a sheet of the correct size...

badnova
16-07-04, 11:21 PM
would the back end need strengthening
or should this be ok with just a sheet across

Stuart
16-07-04, 11:22 PM
like this, as it give you more strength

http://www.lindborg.me.uk/Stuart/104CANON/IMG_0454.JPG

im using a single skin of fibre glass over the top

badnova
16-07-04, 11:24 PM
got any more pics

Stuart
16-07-04, 11:31 PM
nope

badnova
16-07-04, 11:39 PM
where does the other side join on to

Stuart
16-07-04, 11:44 PM
its an X between the two chassis rails. the bit you cant see is almost at the very end of the rails at the rear.

badnova
16-07-04, 11:44 PM
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lee.jones5153/IMG_0454.jpg

Stuart
17-07-04, 12:13 AM
see my previous post.

and THINK about it!!!

badnova
17-07-04, 12:15 AM
i see it now
you posted just before me

badnova
17-07-04, 12:15 AM
have you welded sheet over yet

Stuart
17-07-04, 12:18 AM
im using a single skin of fibre glass over the top

badnova
17-07-04, 12:20 AM
ok
its late and a little tired

J4MES
17-07-04, 12:24 AM
cambridge>> is that to keep the weight down, or because the welded in cross members provide enough strength so that a sheet of metal is not needed????

badnova
17-07-04, 12:31 AM
defentlt goin to do it just when i have the balls to cut a big hole there

J4MES
17-07-04, 12:33 AM
would scare the p**s out of me doing that, hello mr angle grinder :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

badnova
17-07-04, 12:41 AM
witht the fuel tank bein so close

J4MES
17-07-04, 12:55 AM
just run it empty then wip it off, better to be safe than sorry, or you could just put like wet towels everywhere, altho taking it off is better :twisted:

Stuart
17-07-04, 08:23 AM
you'll notice in the pic there are 2 straps just infront (under) of where the well was. they are the fuel tank holders. and you will also notice that there is a bit sticking out that i left, thats for the drivers side tank mount, i will be securing that to the strut brace once thats in its final place.



i cut it out with an air hacksaw thing. as the grinders were being used, and they wouldnt fit under the temp brace i fitted due to me cutting the back pannel off too.

Al Wilson
17-07-04, 09:09 AM
witht the fuel tank bein so close

That was my main concern but its all good now with no explosions! :D

badnova
17-07-04, 09:10 AM
have you cut your wheel well out

epo
17-07-04, 09:35 AM
al's got to holes in his boot floor so u can see his carbon fiber cans
well different idea and looks really good

badnova
17-07-04, 10:01 AM
o yeah

Mike.
17-07-04, 10:14 AM
u couuld pet a perspex window over the hole u cut out
that would look the dogs
u would be able to see the zorst system

badnova
17-07-04, 01:33 PM
not much point coz my ice is all in the boot

Benn
18-07-04, 11:04 AM
its great fun 2 do
when i did mine,we just hacked it out
lightens the rear end up lots,
i welded a plate over it from the top
had no probs nice and strong..(engine tested...well it was sat on top of it all the way from essex)
ben

Anonymous
18-07-04, 11:08 AM
stop talking toilet, how can that lighten the rear end???

you big poof!!!

badnova
18-07-04, 01:26 PM
u aint taking that much weight out are you

u put just as much back becouse of streightening

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 07:09 PM
u couuld pet a perspex window over the hole u cut out
that would look the dogs
u would be able to see the zorst system

Thats what I've done! And I have magazine proof to show I did it first! :wink: :D

badnova
18-07-04, 09:22 PM
got the mag with it in

it does the balls

your car is well impressive

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 09:30 PM
Cheers, taken a lot of time to get it like that. Windows are cool and get a lot of attention at shows but a bit of a bitch to keep clean. As the cars my daily driver she's started to pick up a few knocks and scratches so she'll be back to the body shop by the end of the year.

Al

badnova
18-07-04, 09:34 PM
will you do it the same colour or diffrent

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 09:40 PM
will you do it the same colour or diffrent

Would like to change the colour but its all about the cost of getting the engine bay done again etc. Got some great ideas but no capital as with quite a few people I guess.

badnova
18-07-04, 09:42 PM
i know the feeling
make some of you bonnets and you will be well away

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 09:45 PM
i know the feeling
make some of you bonnets and you will be well away

I was planning on doing all this carbon work for everyone but since the girlfriend drove her car into a Merc and injured me and rendered me with limited movement at the moment its looking unlikely I'll have as much time to do it before I go back to uni. :oops:

badnova
18-07-04, 09:50 PM
u could always rent the mold out to me lol

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 09:51 PM
You can borrow it if you want?

badnova
18-07-04, 09:53 PM
thanks mate
where about are u

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 09:54 PM
Northish London mate, J 26 M25.

Benn
18-07-04, 09:55 PM
when u cut the wheel well out it does weigh a bit,even more with the wheel in it,
as long as u dont cut right up 2 the chassey rails u dont lose any strength
then the plate i welded in was a lot lighter that the well

Benn
18-07-04, 09:56 PM
stop talking toilet, how can that lighten the rear end???

you big poof!!!

as above,ben

badnova
18-07-04, 09:57 PM
its prob easier and lightier

badnova
18-07-04, 10:09 PM
so i wont be worth puting the steal rails in as it not needed

is that wot u are saying

Al Wilson
18-07-04, 10:10 PM
You don't lose much strength if you cut it in the right places. And to be safe I put in a rear strut to add sideways strength.

badnova
18-07-04, 10:15 PM
yeah that what i thought

Benn
19-07-04, 06:14 PM
when u look at the floor u can see where the rails lay...
i cut about an inch in from them so all the strench was still there
i've had an xr with f20 stilling on it,and not had a prob

Jim
19-07-04, 06:25 PM
Firstly, this should have been in styling/technical.

Secondly, BadNova, why do you want to remove the spare wheel well if your going to be putting a load of ICE in there anyway? It would be a hell of a lot easier to build a false floor.

Jim

Riggy
19-07-04, 09:24 PM
iirc didnt rick use a others cars bonnet as a floor in his purple valver (rjm 25r)

:D

badnova
19-07-04, 10:47 PM
Firstly, this should have been in styling/technical.

Secondly, BadNova, why do you want to remove the spare wheel well if your going to be putting a load of ICE in there anyway? It would be a hell of a lot easier to build a false floor.

Jim

i want to put a twin exhaust in and to fit a rage 4" i would have to take it out

Al Wilson
19-07-04, 10:55 PM
i want to put a twin exhaust in and to fit a rage 4" i would have to take it out

You're just copying now.... :wink: :D

badnova
19-07-04, 10:58 PM
lol

i had the idea about a month ago
but never got round to actually doin it
so now im at the stage where im think ing to my self yeah im goin to do it

badnova
19-07-04, 10:59 PM
and also just had an idea of putting perpex in the corner of the boot so people can see the cans through the hole
lol

Al Wilson
19-07-04, 11:00 PM
Ha.

Ha.

Ha.

What next? Carbon bonnet? :lol:

badnova
19-07-04, 11:08 PM
well yeah
and ive seen as good design cut out of a door
there 4 triangles
look really good
goin to do it to mine

lol

only jokin

except the carbon bonnet

thinking of making the quad conversion one out of carbon

Al Wilson
19-07-04, 11:09 PM
I still have Redline and TV proof! :lol:

badnova
19-07-04, 11:11 PM
i agree your the first and has to be one of the finest novas ive seen resently finsihed

Al Wilson
19-07-04, 11:14 PM
Still not good enough to win any competions though. :cry: All because its parked outside in all weathers and driven everyday so obvoiusly has the day by day 'battle scars'. Should be separate sections for best modified and best modified driven :D

badnova
20-07-04, 10:08 PM
yeah i know what you mean
there show cars then theres road cars

Benn
20-07-04, 10:19 PM
got 2 have both
mine will b

badnova
20-07-04, 10:50 PM
got to have both wot

Benn
21-07-04, 10:25 AM
my nova will b show car and everyday car
driven never trailerd