TURBO'D GSI/GTE...

[Anonymous]

Has n e 1 got 1 cos i wanna know wat there like and how much etc. Any details will help. Cos im thinking of turboin my next gsi.
Cheers peps.



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[Anonymous]

My mate paid about ?2000 with him doing all of the engine work, and courtenay doing the ECU. You cant run high boost, therefore u cant get much over 150bhp. This is because of the work involved in dropping the compression. After all of that his car is still marginally slower than mine on the move, and alot slower from standstill. I`ve spent about ?800 on my engine on 40`s.

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[Anonymous]

The guy who turbo'd a nova GTE in blackpool (The Turbo Doctor) doesn't do it the way everyone keeps saying...u know...lowering the compression using copper head gaskets or whatever...

i asked him the other week if he did it like that, he said no...he must do it a different way...and not a bodged way, cos he's turbo'd loads of cars now, and he hasn't used that method on one of them to this day...

he turbo'd a GTE (as i mentioned) in blackpool, it had a hybrid turbo, cam, chip, filter and zorst, and was 190bhp...

it raced a sapphire cossie and stayed 1" off his back bumper all the way up to 120mph...and i'm pretty sure the cossie wasn't standard, plus there are witnesses to that...

a normal T3 (i think) turbo conversion with the Turbo Doctor costs ?800...

if you could do parts of it yourself...it would cost summit like ?600...

Ged

[Anonymous]

I got beat by the 1 MC mentioned on Sat night:( but its a lot of money for not a huge gain cos he was only a bit better and I'm still settling in after a cam change. Be interested to see the 1 Geds on about tho.

[Anonymous]

If he doesnt do the head gasket thing, he must put in low compression pistons.

The GTE u talk about with 190bhp - Once you`ve paid your ?800 for the conversion and bought the hybrid turbo, cam, chip filter and zorst, you`re looking at alot of money and I still think a normally aspirated 1600 of around 160bhp will be a fair rival. I can pull about 4 car lengths on my mates turbo in first gear, and keep pulling away through the rest and he has similar power to me. He can turn his boost up to 14psi and his car is quicker, I think 180bhpish, but it just becomes un-reliable because the block isnt designed to be turbo`d. It does get loads of attention though.

As you can proberbly guess I`m not a huge fan of turbos, I`m not rubbishing them, coz his car is damn quick and he can play with the big boyz, but I just think there are better and more reliable ways of tuning a Nova.

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[Anonymous]

P.S. Most conversions use the T2, but his uses a T3. More power, but also more lag. He has now realised what I mean about lag as he watches me take of straight away.

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[Anonymous]

I can't make my mind up whether to go for the turbo or throttle body route for my 1.6 16v that is about to go in my GSi!

I need to make my mind up soon coz whether I bother fitting the Corsa loom depends on this choice.

Grrrrr....

[Anonymous]

If you can afford it, THROTTLE BODDIES!

Look at Dec Burkes 1/4 of 14.7! I think my mate runs in about 16.0.

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[Anonymous]

Compare that 16 with my GTE with just an induction kit did it in 16.7 at santa pod.

Ease Yourself Back Into Conciousness !!!!!
:D

[Anonymous]

louise Ridley's 1.5 TD nova running at 9psi ran a 17 second 1/4...true! think what i'm gonna do when i get my 1.5TD running at 13psi! should put down a good time when i get the fucker that is!

[Anonymous]

pa diesel power lol :P

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[Anonymous]

Defo throttle bodies, usable power and torque through the hole rev range.:)

[Anonymous]

:D i know!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

I want a turbo!!!!!!

Mmmmm forbidden donut. :)

[Anonymous]

lmao @ Slammed....

we'll have to arrange sum kind of race when i get the beast ;)

thing is, thats what i'm gonna enjoy...the fact that everyone takes the pi55 out of diesels and think they are slow, but u can tune them to be very quick...and i'm gonna humiliate sum supposedly quicker cars...

i'll start coming to meet up's/cruises etc when i get me motor...so i'll take sum of u for a spin who fancy seeing how nippy it is...;)

[Anonymous]

im up 4 that ged, al nick a tractor so u've got some fair competition on ur 0-60's lol

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[Anonymous]

No matter how quick they are, they will sound pants & u will still get the good old poof of black smoke.

[Anonymous]

ok then ged, check out www.btinternet.com/~yorkdragway/tis.html

the results for last dragracing at york, louise ridleys times, bottom in her class, not slagging her but she has the same car you have and it was beaten by micra! so dont get too cocky or we'll all get micras and kick your arse.

or if we wnat to humiliate you we'll get 1.3sr's.

[Anonymous]

that doesnt work mr storey.

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[Anonymous]

try out www.btinternet.com/~yorkdragway/tsi.html

should work.

Bloody hell, for the cash she has spent, u wud think it woud go quicker! :o

[Anonymous]

That doesn't work either!!!!!

Mmmmm forbidden donut. :)

[Anonymous]

http://www.btinternet.com/~yorkdragway/TSi.html doesnt work?

[Anonymous]

so people know what to look at
group A is upto 1400cc and diesels upto 1600
B is upto 1600cc
c is up to 2000cc all the above non turbo non nitrous 2wd

[Anonymous]

she ran a 17 second quarter at the Max Power thrash or summit...not sure if the figures showed on the site u mention are for that day...

TD aren't rapid...but they are nippy and keep up with SR's, and cost a lot less to insure (trust me, i've phoned so many insurance companies and they have quoted me around ?300 higher than TD insurance for an SR)

looks like ged's gonna have to try and build a quick TD...lol to change your opinions...

[Anonymous]

it'll never happen! lol. soz ged. :P

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[Anonymous]

All u will c is this nova, goin bruuuummmm, tshhhh, then loads of smoke bellowing out the back.

Plus it will use more fuel, cos runnin high boost, i think i will stick to my (soon to be)100bhp 14sr thank you.

[Anonymous]

Turbo Diesels are quite quick. my mate was racing his 106 Quiksilver agains a 206 HDi, he got caned.

But 1.5 hmmm, not sure, what bhp it got?


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[Anonymous]

yeah thats a good comparison 2.0 hdi turbo is 90bhp

[Anonymous]

only a 1.5TD, 67bhp...

but with the boost increased to 13psi it should 0-60 in around 8 seconds...and they are proper estimates, not just of the top of my head (well, i didn't come up with them, Mr Turbo Doctor did)

13spi gonna bring it up to 100+bhp at least, then there's a filter and zorst on top of that...

how can that be slow???

just cos it's a diesel...can sum one out there that's raced a TD nova or knows about a quick TD post on this thread just to prove they aren't as shit as everyone makes out...it's a myth...

we'll see anyway...i'll get my arse to a cruise and show u...i'm not saying it's gonna eat valvers..obviously, but it'll be a quick car...

[Anonymous]

the red 306 TD in max power a few months ago did 0-60 in 7 seconds? "it's a diesel, it's well slow and shit and smoggy"...bollox!

[Anonymous]

Erm, how much fuel are you using to break the sound barrier in this mean machine?

I recon it will be crap, and i very much doubt it will run under 8 sec 0-60, i mean have you bothered to look at those figures from york?

Come on, she got beat by a micra for fucks sake, it isnt fast, never has, never will be.

Same as your "subaru" scooter, always has & always will be pants, go pop a wheelie or grab a 14 year old on the back.

[Anonymous]

As much as I think a diesel is the wrong route to go for a quick car, you can get some power out of them if you speak to the right people.
Van Aaken Developments do an optimization process on most turbo diesels and this is supposed to unleash about 15-20BHP, so I dare say that if some people wanted to push the limit they could get 100BHP out of one, but how long it would last would be anyone's guess! Also I haven't got a clue on what it would cost, but my guess would be alot more than tuning a normally aspirated petrol engine!
A Corsa with the treatment achieved 85bhp, which you can read about here:
http://cgi.migpv.plus.com/cgi-bin/test/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001171

And Van Aaken are here:
http://www.vanaaken.com/indexcont.htm

Hope it helps a bit

Chris

[Anonymous]

Mark D your gettin on my tits now...we are having a proper debate and u still have to rip the piss at the end of each of your messages...

zip it X-(

[Anonymous]

Even with the big power, you have two main problems that hinder performance, Lag and rpm range. Lag isnt such an issue as most TD`s use small turbos, but until it has spun up, they aint quick. The bigger problem is revving, they only have useable torque upto about 3500, so whilst the TD is changing gear, the SR will be screaming upto 7000 giving power all of the way. As I work on cars I`ve driven hundreds of customer cars, and I`d say to get a TD with comparible performance to an SR it must be around a 2.0 or maybe smaller if it has direct injection, and I would still favour the SR. I recently drove a golf 1.9 tdi and the accelleration was very good, but because I had to keep changing gear I didnt make quick progress. If you spent equal amounts on tuning a petrol engine and a diesel engine, there would never be a fair competition. All of you with TD`s must agree with this, if not you are kidding yourselves.

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[Anonymous]

Ner ner, told u so. :p

[Anonymous]

yeah mark stop causing trouble! :P roflmao
you should know some people on here have no sense of humour, and you had the cheek to man at me :D

[Anonymous]

fcuking child

[Anonymous]

i have a sense of humour! it's funny now and again but it's getting tedious mate... :-/

[Anonymous]

so does n e 1 no if 'the turbo doctor' has got a e-mail address or web site?

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[Anonymous]

maybe when all the kids go to sleep, and all the mummies and daddy's go to bed, Ged turns into the (drum roll) de de daaaaaaaaaaaa Mr Turbo doctor,

he flies round streets on his scooter turboeing cars with his magic turbo wand.

lol, sorry m8, im a bit hyper.


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