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krobinson
07-04-04, 08:20 PM
What would be the best gearbox to use with my 1300? The standard F10, or would a F13 CR box fit?

I prefer acceleration over top end speed, the engine should be pushing 90bhp when built..

Keith

novashed
08-04-04, 01:14 AM
1.3 sr F10 CR got better raios for acceleration hasn't it 4.18:1 , F13 CR 3.74:1
and 3.94 on 1.4 sr's


1.3 sr F10 CR 4.18:1

F13 CR 3.74:1

1.4 sr's F10 CR 3.94

hope that helps

krobinson
11-04-04, 11:28 AM
Bump..

So basically the F10 i have would be the best to use?

Keith

Gunzi
11-04-04, 12:39 PM
Yers, unless you can track down that bedford astra van gearbox with a high final drive, but dunno if the flywheels would match up?

Aragorn
12-04-04, 03:11 PM
vauxhall have 2 diffent set of gear cluster ratios and various final drives

the F number of the box is irrellevant

u get WR and CR boxes in both F10 and F13

for accelleration u want a CR box, however most vaux CR boxes have long final drive ratios meaning they are tamed down a bit

so if u take a GTE F13CR u'll find it has a 3.74 FD... fitting a 3.94 FD from a 1.2 or 1.4 or better still a 4.18FD from a 1300SR or 1300 astra will give u even better accelleration and hence a lower top end

i have modified a spreadsheet that cambridge put together a while back to make it much easier to use... its hosted here:

http://www.kevingalloway.demon.co.uk/gearbox.xls

load that into excel and you can compare boxes - the WR and CR options are tabs at the bottom - u input the red fields to match your engine and also the last RPM field if your rev limit is higher than 6800 - that way u can fiddle with ratios and work out which box you'd like the best :)

Snowface
12-04-04, 07:14 PM
*Taken from haynes*

Final Drive Ratios

**************** F10/4 *** F10/5 ****** F13/5 ****** F13/5 CR
1.0 up to Feb 1983 3.74:1 ___ 4.18:1
1.0 From Feb 1983 3.94:1 ___ 4.18:1
1.2 carb models ___3.74:1 ___ 3.94:1
1.2 SP injection ___3.94:1 ___ 4.18:1
1.3 all except sr's__ None ____ 3.94:1
1.3 sr's only ______ 4.18:1
1.4 carb models ___ None ____ 3.94:1 _____ None _______ 3.94:1
1.4 SP injection ___ 3.94:1 ___ 3.94:1 _____ None _______ 3.94:1
1.4 MP injection ___ None ____ None ______ 3.94:1
1.6 C/E 16 SE ____ None ____ None _______ None _______ 3.74:1

So there u go.

If its exactly right or not who knows.

nova_rally
12-04-04, 07:52 PM
Thats a very useful little tool that spreadsheet, would someone like to make it a sticky so that the same questions don't keep cropping up?

Alan