racing an Escort Cossie...

[TUBZGSXR]

was cumin out of Cambridge 2day onto the A14 back to were i live (papworth nr Bedford) an was behind a cossie, got onto the A14 an we both saw the raod was clear, so we booted it, was right behind him an he wasnet gaining any ground at all, an at 80+ i was reelin him in an would have overtaken im sure if we hadent have run out of road, was fun though, valvers rock......
nice bloke as well gave the thumbs up...

[cooper_nova]

nice one mate!!!

i want a valver in mine!!!
:(

[Nath]

tut tut racing hey. nahh i love cossies and there feckin fast but ive never been in a valver nova so i wouldnt know jack about them.

[cooper_nova]

tut tut racing hey. nahh i love cossies and there feckin fast but ive never been in a valver nova so i wouldnt know jack about them.

they're fast as fcuk!!!!!

[Breeny]

Was a standard one then... even a moerately tuned one would whop a valver nova.. especially after 100 mph!

[essexrudeboy]

Was a standard one then... even a moerately tuned one would whop a valver nova.. especially after 100 mph!

agree!!! even a standard 1 would pull.. depending on wot mods u got i spose tho!

[Will]

breeny remember racing the escort cossie in the LET?

lmfao steam pouring out of his bonnet after

[XZiBiT]

was cumin out of Cambridge 2day onto the A14 back to were i live (papworth nr Bedford) an was behind a cossie, got onto the A14 an we both saw the raod was clear, so we booted it, was right behind him an he wasnet gaining any ground at all, an at 80+ i was reelin him in an would have overtaken im sure if we hadent have run out of road, was fun though, valvers rock......
nice bloke as well gave the thumbs up...

you must have a heaverly modded valver mate !! standared valvers aint sooo fast :lol: what bhp you got?

[Breeny]

Don't jump on the bandwagon :roll:

Standard Valver nova and a standard 4x4 Escos would be a close thing..

According to that site that lists the various 1/4 mile times a standard Escos does a 14.9.. there only 210 odd hp remember... and a lot heavier with power loss through 4x4... I seem to remember people with valvers running 15ish sec 1/4 on here..

A modified one is a completely different story though.. You only need to do a few things to get them over 300hp - Would leave a valver nova well behind.

[big_steve_x]

i'm too used to my valver now, its sloooww :) i need another 100bhp! :)

[cooper_nova]

i'm too used to my valver now, its sloooww :) i need another 100bhp! :)

let????
:lol:

[XZiBiT]

V6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Jack]

Pah!


V8!



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TUBZGSXR]

was cumin out of Cambridge 2day onto the A14 back to were i live (papworth nr Bedford) an was behind a cossie, got onto the A14 an we both saw the raod was clear, so we booted it, was right behind him an he wasnet gaining any ground at all, an at 80+ i was reelin him in an would have overtaken im sure if we hadent have run out of road, was fun though, valvers rock......
nice bloke as well gave the thumbs up...

you must have a heaverly modded valver mate !! standared valvers aint sooo fast :lol: what bhp you got?
well its been RR at 171bhp, the bloke off of mig i bought it from saiid the previous owner worked for porshe an had the whole engine redun, bigger valves, posibly supershipped as it revs higher than the dash, got full system, powercap, not that they count for that much, i think its more internal work that gives it the power........... possibly been borred out? not sure realy!

[ydg27]

peachy!

[cooper_nova]

nice !!!
:lol:

[~~joycey~~]

sounds sweet to me :lol:

[epo]

i must admit tho id love an escrot cossie well mint cars imo

[Aamir]

i'm too used to my valver now, its sloooww :) i need another 100bhp! :)

NOS :lol:

[nova m@rk]

fair play mate cant wait till i can afford insurance
on a XE then i can go cossie,evo & scoobie baitin
you should try lookin for some pulsar's ive seen a
valva with nothing more than a FSE valve on it
keep up with a standard GTi-R

[big_wig_074]

thats well done matey,cant fault you there! however i would love for you to have tried it on my saff cossie (now breaking!) 418bhp and 409lb ft !!! i did a lambo murcielago in it!

[TUBZGSXR]

thats well done matey,cant fault you there! however i would love for you to have tried it on my saff cossie (now breaking!) 418bhp and 409lb ft !!! i did a lambo murcielago in it!
!!! :o il pass mate, Lambo!! sounds fun!

[big_wig_074]

ran 12.8s at the pod on low boost,never finished a high boost run as it blew the diff on the line!hahah!

[Jules]

....never finished a high boost run as it blew the diff on the line!hahah!

LOL!!

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily?
:lol:

[big_wig_074]

should have been FORH for hourly!but nothing else came close to it on the roads,TVRs bikes the lot! i never did get to top it out,i chickened out at 165mph!

[epo]

ive owned 4 fords me dads had loads r kids had 2 and weve never had ne serious problems with em they've always ran well

[RJM25R]

Found On Roadside. Dead. LOL

My valver with 178bhp kept up with standard-ish cossie (saf and escy) on a dual carriageway in Oldham but they both left me for dead around the roundabout. Back on the carriageway I caught them up. They both reckoned to have 250BHP but both were 4wd. Respect to them though, because without them developing the Sierra RS Cosworth back in 1984 there'd be no impreza wrx/evo mitsi's or lancia integrale's and the world would be a sh1tt1er place!

I love cossies almost as much as I love golfs... and I love golfs almost as much as i love nova's

[dan_mk1]

grrrr! cossies are shit as standard! why the fuck everyone thinks of em as supercars is beyond me, 15sec 1/4 is nought special

and to the guy who says he 'has bikes' in his saph, you should really move up from racing 125's by now, try it on with a gsx1000r or a 'busa and get your ass handed to ya

[big_wig_074]

funny,didnt know they put 125 engines in kawasaki ninjas! would you like the tech spec of my cossie? ok then just to shut you up: brand new 200 (thick wall 4x4 item) block machined and long studded,lightened and balanced bottom end with knife edged crank,mahle pistons with valve cutouts,7.56:1 c/r, 4x4 head flowed,ported and bigger valves all done by nick waples(ex mountune and f1 head expert!) 4x4 inlet and exhaust manifolds flowed and matched to head,cams custom made(reprofiled from bd16 and bd14 cams,very lumpy!) vernier pulleys,high pressure oil pump,hybrid T34 turbo with .63 exhaust housing(machined to flow more gases!)with -31 actuator,Genuine Behr RS500 intercooler(not the forge or other replica crap!)bosch 403 "grey" injectors (504cc/min),3 bar map sensor,L8 ecu with pectel baby board (expensive!),Group A fuel pump and coil,Ramair induction kit,silicone and metal hoses.peaked at 34psi then dropped off to 21 psi (achieved by jetting the amal valve) ran 418bhp and 409lb/ft on SCS peterborough engine dyno when built and later ran 425bhp and 425 lb/ft on SCA rolling road. anything else?i do NOT bullsh1t please let me know if you would like proof as there are many people on www.passionford.com who know me and the car. dont slag people off before you know the story,ok?

[cooper_nova]

grrrr! cossies are s**t as standard! why the f**k everyone thinks of em as supercars is beyond me, 15sec 1/4 is nought special

and to the guy who says he 'has bikes' in his saph, you should really move up from racing 125's by now, try it on with a gsx1000r or a 'busa and get your ass handed to ya :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[big_wig_074]

grrrr! cossies are s**t as standard! why the f**k everyone thinks of em as supercars is beyond me, 15sec 1/4 is nought special

and to the guy who says he 'has bikes' in his saph, you should really move up from racing 125's by now, try it on with a gsx1000r or a 'busa and get your ass handed to ya :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

oh and i ran a 13.8@98mph with just over 250bhp in the saff,so 15 secs is a load of crap!

[cooper_nova]

funny,didnt know they put 125 engines in kawasaki ninjas! would you like the tech spec of my cossie? ok then just to shut you up: brand new 200 (thick wall 4x4 item) block machined and long studded,lightened and balanced bottom end with knife edged crank,mahle pistons with valve cutouts,7.56:1 c/r, 4x4 head flowed,ported and bigger valves all done by nick waples(ex mountune and f1 head expert!) 4x4 inlet and exhaust manifolds flowed and matched to head,cams custom made(reprofiled from bd16 and bd14 cams,very lumpy!) vernier pulleys,high pressure oil pump,hybrid T34 turbo with .63 exhaust housing(machined to flow more gases!)with -31 actuator,Genuine Behr RS500 intercooler(not the forge or other replica crap!)bosch 403 "grey" injectors (504cc/min),3 bar map sensor,L8 ecu with pectel baby board (expensive!),Group A fuel pump and coil,Ramair induction kit,silicone and metal hoses.peaked at 34psi then dropped off to 21 psi (achieved by jetting the amal valve) ran 418bhp and 409lb/ft on SCS peterborough engine dyno when built and later ran 425bhp and 425 lb/ft on SCA rolling road. anything else?i do NOT bullsh1t please let me know if you would like proof as there are many people on www.passionford.com who know me and the car. dont slag people off before you know the story,ok?

i thought the 205 block woz stronger than the 200 one, thats why ford used it for the 4x4

[big_wig_074]

funny,didnt know they put 125 engines in kawasaki ninjas! would you like the tech spec of my cossie? ok then just to shut you up: brand new 200 (thick wall 4x4 item) block machined and long studded,lightened and balanced bottom end with knife edged crank,mahle pistons with valve cutouts,7.56:1 c/r, 4x4 head flowed,ported and bigger valves all done by nick waples(ex mountune and f1 head expert!) 4x4 inlet and exhaust manifolds flowed and matched to head,cams custom made(reprofiled from bd16 and bd14 cams,very lumpy!) vernier pulleys,high pressure oil pump,hybrid T34 turbo with .63 exhaust housing(machined to flow more gases!)with -31 actuator,Genuine Behr RS500 intercooler(not the forge or other replica crap!)bosch 403 "grey" injectors (504cc/min),3 bar map sensor,L8 ecu with pectel baby board (expensive!),Group A fuel pump and coil,Ramair induction kit,silicone and metal hoses.peaked at 34psi then dropped off to 21 psi (achieved by jetting the amal valve) ran 418bhp and 409lb/ft on SCS peterborough engine dyno when built and later ran 425bhp and 425 lb/ft on SCA rolling road. anything else?i do NOT bullsh1t please let me know if you would like proof as there are many people on www.passionford.com who know me and the car. dont slag people off before you know the story,ok?

i thought the 205 block woz stronger than the 200 one, thats why ford used it for the 4x4

ford used the 200 block in the 4x4! the 205 was used in the 3 door and 2wheel drive saffs,it is just a specially selected pinto block from the line. the 200 block has thicker walls and can take more abuse.

[dan_mk1]

right let me get this straight:
a standard hyabusa will run a 9 sec quarter
a standard gsx1000r will run a 8.5 sec quarter

the fastest tuned cossie in the country run a 11.18 iirc?
and that was a 4wd, you have rwd so less traction off the line, so im guessing around a 12sec quarter?

tell me if im wrong but thats 3 seconds off a superbike
im not disputing your spec, im saying that on the road/quarter mile nothing will come close to a bike

[dan_mk1]

grrrr! cossies are s**t as standard! why the f**k everyone thinks of em as supercars is beyond me, 15sec 1/4 is nought special

and to the guy who says he 'has bikes' in his saph, you should really move up from racing 125's by now, try it on with a gsx1000r or a 'busa and get your ass handed to ya :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

oh and i ran a 13.8@98mph with just over 250bhp in the saff,so 15 secs is a load of crap!

i was stating for a standard escort cosworth

[Nath]

will find the video of this cossie that breaks the 11 second 1/4 i think.

[Jim]

dan_mk1nova, why are you being so aggresive to big_wig_074? He's come on this site wanting to get involved in the Nova scene, from the sounds of it, he has a Ford background - So what?!?. As soon as he mentioned this everyone jumped on his case saying Fords were crap. I'd much rather have a Cosworth than a Nova.

Dan (admin from this site) goes onto a Ford enthusiasts site and has told me on a number of occasions how polite they are to him and they welcome his comments regarding vauxhalls and what they are capable of. You only have to look back a few posts on this site to see people slagging off other makes of cars. It's embarrasing to come on the site and read the comments that some of you put.

I'm almost ashamed to drive a Nova. I see why people make comments to Nova drivers. Most of the time Nova drivers ask for it by being aggresive and rude.

For gods sake stop bitching and slagging off other cars. At the end of the day we are all into modifying.

Jim

[Nath]

well said i agree i love cossies and i used to love my fiesta, i dont dislike fords its one of the only other makes i would have.

[cooper_nova]

well said i agree i love cossies and i used to love my fiesta, i dont dislike fords its one of the only other makes i would have.

same as fella but i like rwd classic fords. i loved my mk2 escort RS200!!!!

[epo]

id love a mk2 escort
i nearly bought one a year ago but r lass was like no its horrible
i love em

[cooper_nova]

i always wanted a mk1 lotus cortina

[Nath]

yeah there amazing cars i went in a rally prepped one someone i know took me out in it and i shit myself it was so scary!

[cooper_nova]

kool nice 1 but liked it tho!(the experience not the $hitting ur self lol)

[Nath]

lol i couldnt let go of the seats! well he said to me dont press the button on the foot plate lol so what did i do press the button on the footplate which was the horn! so i was pappin it all the way lol. he was handbraking it round the islands lol

[cooper_nova]

lol sounds mad mate where did u go? a rally stage or a circuit?

[big_wig_074]

fastest cossies run 10s now 2wd and 4wd. and i have NEVER seen a std bike run ANYWHERE NEAR 8.5 at pod and ive been there loads!i never said i beat them on dragstrip either, from a rolling start is completely different,specially from 90mph! but anyway,thats not the point,novas CAN be good and quick,cossies usually faster top end but not always,i like em both!end of.
right let me get this straight:
a standard hyabusa will run a 9 sec quarter
a standard gsx1000r will run a 8.5 sec quarter

the fastest tuned cossie in the country run a 11.18 iirc?
and that was a 4wd, you have rwd so less traction off the line, so im guessing around a 12sec quarter?

tell me if im wrong but thats 3 seconds off a superbike
im not disputing your spec, im saying that on the road/quarter mile nothing will come close to a bike

[dan_mk1]

dan_mk1nova, why are you being so aggresive to big_wig_074? He's come on this site wanting to get involved in the Nova scene, from the sounds of it, he has a Ford background - So what?!?. As soon as he mentioned this everyone jumped on his case saying Fords were crap. I'd much rather have a Cosworth than a Nova.


when did you see me once slag off ford?! i was stating that his car wouldnt be faster than a bike, that was it.

[Breeny]

lol....

nowt wrong with Fords.. know someone who owned a similar spec one..

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0703/fast-fezzie/jbs_01-06-03.jpg

That was silly quick.. dunno what all this bollocks is about Hyerbusa engines running 8.5 sec 1/4's though, Most drag bikes with turbos and nitrous will only run circa 9.5!

Can certainly believe a car kept up with a bike, I had a play with one or 2 myself in the turbo, got the thumbs up from a rider on an R1.. :)

[RJM25R]

This is what pisses me off sometimes. If a Saxo was quicker than a nova, all these bollocks excuses come out and they get slagged off. Cossies are a different car altogether. They are quick out of the showroom, not like us with our nova' where you have to spend ??????'s to make them quick and nice.

You can go out tomorrow, buy a BMW 535i (f or g reg) for under a grand and it will sit behind a 2.0 16v nova all day long, 0-60 in 7 (a whisker behind a valver!) be a luxo-barge motorway cruiser, not break down or eat driveshafts, but it won't appeal to the people on this website.

Most of the people I have come across who have 2.0 16v nova's, turbo's and the like never use their cars in anger very often, but all the cossie owners I've met (even some of the concours guys) still drive their car like they are Colin McRae hahahaha

At the end of the day, I have wasted porsches, cossies and imprezas etc in my valver, and been beaten by them!! but I also had a METRO keep up with me at 140mph on the m1. I love ALL fast cars and even saxo's with bodykits, hideous as they are, have re-ignited the modding scene and kept it alive!

Cossies are the princes of the performance car world, golfs are the kings.














But the Nova is divine... Lay off the cossie-boy before we get tarred even further!

[CP]

I'm afraid anyone who diss's any of the classic road going Fords just doesnt know their cars - simple as.

Nobody who knows anything would claim them to be " supercars" cos as we all know that term is reserved for the likes of Ferraris.

However in simple value for money terms Ford have brilliantly produced a series of great fun affordable production based tuned up cars over many years starting with the Mk1 Lotus Cortina (my old man still has his) and reaching ( arguably) the pinicle with the Cosworth engined cars.

With the Cosworth engines we are talking about a 2 liter turbo that was right at the heart of creating the current high horspower 4cyl turbo trend. In std road going form its power is quite modest but tuned up it was capable of collosal power and reliabily. Its proved itself on the road and in competition - I saw Andy Rouse destroying everything when he started using RS 500 based Sierra in the touring car championship. They were so fast they had to be put in their own class. You still see these engines all ove motorsport doing the business - they are classic engines

If you went to a Ford track day you would need to be driving something really special to compete with their best. I'm afraid Vauxhall trail in their wake. I know this because i have been in Martin Hadlands Reyland Cossie at 170mph round the Bruntinghthorpe track - nuff said.

PS - dont know where they have gone with the zetec range of engines tho - nobody ever seems to get good power out of them - pretty naff really

[scott.parker]

very true most fords are the true kings in history of motorsport..i had a xr2i and comperd to my nova gsi 1.6 it would of eaten it for breki lunch and dinner..but it just wernt reliabil,thats the only thing ill give my nova over it.. not getting into a ford vs vauxhall slaging mach as it's totaly stupid..

scott :|

[Snowface]

my favourite ca used to be a Sierra Cosworth (not saphire). Had it in one of my top trumps :).

Dad used to have a Sierra XR 4x4 and that was quick, used to overtake Mk1 MR2 Turbo's and other fast stuff.

[Chip_RB]

PMSL @ the complete muppet who thinks a standard gsxr will run 8.5!

Other thing to remember with bikes, is a lightweight testrider is going to be at least a second quicker than most riders.

Having ridden lots of bikes and driven several cossies, i find it VERY easy to believe that a 400bhp cossie would beat most sunday riders on their superbikes, especially if there were a few corners involved.


Chip