View Full Version : pug 205 GTi versus Nova 1.3 merrit!
that sounds pretty stupid doesnt it, well the merrit won according to snowface
vaux didn't make a 1.3 merit did they :?:
no chance. the gte is only just enough to keep up with the 1.6 GTi, it must have been a replica
chris
DUNOVA.
11-02-04, 09:19 AM
Has any one heard of meanstreat cruise?Well my mate took his 1.2 nova up there they let people do 5 laps each to c who can get the best time my mate whooped a pug gti and got getter times than a cav turbo I dunno how he done it but he did you mite not beleive me but there are a few people on here that can maybe back me up essexrudeboy and anton maybe it was because the nova handled better it's deffenatly got nothing to with power because obviously the cav and the pug have a huge power difference to the nova
Ste_Nova
11-02-04, 09:58 AM
vaux didn't make a 1.3 merit did they :?:
5 door
my mate at works got a pug 1.9 gti made my gsi look slow now i make him look slow :lol:
dan_mk1
11-02-04, 10:24 AM
maybe it was because the nova handled better it's deffenatly got nothing to with power because obviously the cav and the pug have a huge power difference to the nova
:lol: unless it was snowing and the pug couldnt get the power down, there is no way any nova could keep up with either a 1.6 or a 1.9 gti round a 'track' or in a straight line
maybe it was because the nova handled better it's deffenatly got nothing to with power because obviously the cav and the pug have a huge power difference to the nova
:lol: unless it was snowing and the pug couldnt get the power down, there is no way any nova could keep up with either a 1.6 or a 1.9 gti round a 'track' or in a straight line
il have to agree with u there Dan, I struggle in my 16 v 106 to get the power down, always wheel spinning, but in my old nova 8v, never had a prob, in even in the wet
dan_mk1
11-02-04, 10:43 AM
tetley what year is your 106?
whats the interior pattern like?
just out of interest
tetley what year is your 106?
whats the interior pattern like?
just out of interest
51 mate, full spec, passenger airbag, white dials, cd player etc
dan_mk1
11-02-04, 11:08 AM
the seats with the funny coloured pattern on?
It's down to the driver most of the time. If you have a driver that knows how to drive, they can easily beat someone in a higher powered car.
the seats with the funny coloured pattern on?
no, ur thinking of the quicksilver, they are a model on there own. Quite fast, and they are unique.
Wont touch a GTE nova, probably same perfomance as a 1.3SR, they are 1.4 8v
essexrudeboy
11-02-04, 01:28 PM
maybe it was because the nova handled better it's deffenatly got nothing to with power because obviously the cav and the pug have a huge power difference to the nova
:lol: unless it was snowing and the pug couldnt get the power down, there is no way any nova could keep up with either a 1.6 or a 1.9 gti round a 'track' or in a straight line
ive sin the video.. its tru!
this nova was a heap of shite, fcuk knows how he did it!
DUNOVA.
11-02-04, 04:44 PM
That was funny as fcuk a phat cav and pug and a wreck of a nova :lol:
dan_mk1
11-02-04, 06:00 PM
the seats with the funny coloured pattern on?
no, ur thinking of the quicksilver, they are a model on there own. Quite fast, and they are unique.
Wont touch a GTE nova, probably same perfomance as a 1.3SR, they are 1.4 8v
no im not thinking of the quicksilver, i just wanna know what patterns are on your seats, as you seem to think you have a 106 gti
peester
11-02-04, 06:14 PM
its sods law this racing; i barely pulled on a mini the other day; wide arched and wide wheels but otherwise was a tatty c-reg i was understeering like a biatch then wheelspinning when i floored it. i stayed ahead but as i say i wasn't pulling away from him. what we all supposed to assume now; it was a 1295cc?? metro turbo engine?? maybe it was a 1000cc?? thats why im looking forward to my throttle bodies. lol.
dave.gsi
11-02-04, 07:48 PM
i can see another saxo style 14 page post here lol
which reminds me congratulations to cp for finnally locking that thread :roll:
it was majorly getting on my tits
Snowface
11-02-04, 09:09 PM
that sounds pretty stupid doesnt it, well the merrit won according to snowface
lol. Drama queen.
I never said i won i said i was keeping up.
My 'Merit' is a 3-door bored out 1300 sr engine with ast2k cam, weber 32/34 DMTL, Lots of work done on bottom end including Full balance, ground crank, lightened flywheel, Block skimmed and got a 1200 head on. and a tank of BP Ultimate.
For full spec see my profile.
I think its around 90-95 bhp. . Gonna find out soon with a r/r.
i got hardly any ice slowing me down (weight) either.
DAN-FRST
11-02-04, 09:13 PM
down to driver at end of day you could have a cossie and still get beat buy some less powerd cars but 205 gti are very good little cars a few shity ones about now
DAN
Snowface
11-02-04, 09:18 PM
tetley i could say that u r bs saying u did 102mph in ur 1.2 standard nova.
i know i couldn't do that speed when mine was standard 1200.
Ben3042
11-02-04, 09:27 PM
tetley i could say that u r bs saying u did 102mph in ur 1.2 standard nova.
i know i couldn't do that speed when mine was standard 1200.
A standard 1.2 will easily do 102 mph, perhaps a bit more :roll:
My hatch will get over 102 ok on the level (just takes a while to get there!!), and that's before any modification to engine. My saloon which is bog standard (bar some clear indicators but i doubt they'll make it go faster :D ) will struggle to get over 90 on the level.
A standard 1.2 will easily do 102 mph, perhaps a bit more :roll:
utter bollocks...
if a 1.2 could do 102mph then they would quote that figure from factory. IF your speedometer has said 102, then you can allow up to 10% overread on that which means your 102mph suddenly becomes 92mph. much more like it.
Ben3042
11-02-04, 09:40 PM
A standard 1.2 will easily do 102 mph, perhaps a bit more :roll:
utter b******s...
if a 1.2 could do 102mph then they would quote that figure from factory. IF your speedometer has said 102, then you can allow up to 10% overread on that which means your 102mph suddenly becomes 92mph. much more like it.
Plenty of people will agree to a 1.2 doing 102 mph mate.
it might say 102 but it doesnt actually mean you are doing 102mph. As i explained.
I have actually seen 110mph indicated IN MY 1200. However - that would have worked out at approx 96ish. something like the true top end.
get a bloody grip. If Vauxhall had discovered that the 1200cc could pull that top speed then that is what they would have published.
Ben3042
11-02-04, 09:58 PM
I aint going to waste my time argueing mate, A 1.2 WILL DO 102 MPH
Enough said.
i asked about this question when i first joined as i has 120mph out my sri
then was told its not right due to the inaccuracy of nova speedo's
common knowledge init mate.
iv had an indicated 110mph out of my SR so far...then run out of road...
i'll take 100mph
ive got 105mph out of my 1.2!!! :lol: down hill with the wind behind me
I aint going to waste my time argueing mate, A 1.2 WILL DO 102 MPH
Enough said.
So how have vauxhall, who lets face it, developed the car get the top speed wrong? and to think the error went unnoticed for all this time as well..
Phil
PS: im not your mate, i will thank you to refrain from calling me that.
Ben3042
11-02-04, 11:22 PM
I aint going to waste my time argueing mate, A 1.2 WILL DO 102 MPH
Enough said.
So how have vauxhall, who lets face it, developed the car get the top speed wrong? and to think the error went unnoticed for all this time as well..
Phil
PS: im not your mate, i will thank you to refrain from calling me that.
Ohhh someones got a bee under there bonnet
102 is fuck all anyway, my mate had 101 0ut of his 1.1 mk2 fiesta!!!
*bangs his head on a brick wall*
HOW CAN YOU EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SPEED THAT THE MANUFACTURER SPENT MANY HOURS AND POUNDS ATTAINING WHILST THE CAR WAS IN THE HANDS OF A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER?
answer me that with an answer that does not contain "because i can" or "My mates 1.1 can do this"
does it not seem odd that this is one or two mph different to the SR 1300 book speed that, from memory had something like 15bhp different?
Phil
PS: thought you werent arguing?
Ben3042
11-02-04, 11:54 PM
I coudnt resist :lol:
I wouldnt bang my head against a wall if i were you mate, youll do yourself an injury!
Aragorn
12-02-04, 01:00 AM
tell u what
find a nice motorway speed camera
get your 1200 upto 102 and drive thru the speed cam
then when the ticket arrives u can scan it in and show us its amazing and that your 1200 actually DID 102 mph
i saw 100indicated down a loooong hill in 4th in my 1.2i
judging by the revs that was actually about 95but i digress
ive had 120 indicated outta the 1.4mpi thing ive got just now but i'd hazard a guess at 110-115 actual speed - was too busy chasing the mx5 to note the revs down
Ben3042
12-02-04, 01:23 AM
I think il give that one a miss mate :lol:
DAN-FRST
12-02-04, 06:41 AM
lol at a 1.2 nova going over 100 i think most you would get is 90ish as said you can not go buy the speedo over 70 80 as it will read wrong my m8s 1.3 sr will only do 105 on clock
DAN
FFS the last thread like this was locked (for good reason imo) so you go and start another one argueing about the Pug205GTi in comparision to the Nova? If you like Pug 205GTi's then go find a Pug205GTi forum and tell them how much they can beat Nova's by, but don't keep going on and on and on about it on here ffs.
I got my 1.2i up to 130Mph at 8500rpm :lol: , the same arguments pop up every few weeks, with people thinking there speedos show the right speed. Everyone just chill out. There is no point ragging a 1.2 or such because they are not made for high speeds if you want somthing to brag about get a bigger engine.
I think the only way to finish this would be for someone to get a GPS system that can display your speed (I think some radar detectors can) and see just how fast it goes!
p.s my 1.2 did an indicated 115, but that was downhill, and it blew the engine up by the time i got to the bottom of the hill :lol: ... on a private road of course!
I was doing 80 on the motorway was driving at the same speed as a citreon zara picaso thing and i could see the digital speedo on the dash showing 74 :roll:
:o How'd you see that - Did you stick your head out the window and have a look?!? :D
I got out and ran at 80 next to the car to have a peek and then jumped back in me nova. they have a big digital thing in the centre of the dash and i could see it :)
i have seen 102 on my clock but theres no way that was 92, id say nearer 90, this was downa hill mind u, i had to rag it in fourth then get into fifth to reach it.
The nova speedo is the worst i have experienced especially at 30. it feels like 20mph!!.
the seats with the funny coloured pattern on?
no, ur thinking of the quicksilver, they are a model on there own. Quite fast, and they are unique.
Wont touch a GTE nova, probably same perfomance as a 1.3SR, they are 1.4 8v
no im not thinking of the quicksilver, i just wanna know what patterns are on your seats, as you seem to think you have a 106 gti
What do u mean i seem to think?, and for your information, there is no pattern on the seats, they are leather and suede alacantra, which were introduced on models 98 onwards What is ur problem anyway?
Handbags at awn, is everyone on there period at the mo or something :D
I got out and ran at 80 next to the car to have a peek and then jumped back in me nova. they have a big digital thing in the centre of the dash and i could see it :)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm thinking this is gonna be another 18-page post.... wonder how long it will take for someone to start bringing Saxo's into it... :?
hendrix
12-02-04, 04:54 PM
i had 113 out of me 1ltr nova downhill, it was doin about 6400rpm. It was probably more like 105 or something. funny that it never ran right after that :roll:
Snowface
12-02-04, 07:00 PM
this'll get u lot going.
i was semi racing a 2.0 16v vectra on the exact same stretch of road.
He overtook me and then i ate his dust. I did try to retain a bit of dignity lol.
Can't argue with valvers.
Handbags at awn, is everyone on there period at the mo or something :D
nah m8,
just sick of people spouting utter b0ll0cks and passing unchallenged.. I hear this bollocks day in day out at work and it just got to me... Still amazes me that people think you can have a fully functioning dump valve without a turbo (i was asked the other day for one to fit an XR3i)
Phil
surely the best way 2 check ur speedo is something like rwyb
then ull be able 2 comare ur speed with what they read as ur top speed
i know a 1.2 isnt gunna have enough road 2 reach 100 in a 1/4 mile but ull get some sort of indication
and its all legal
no coppers or speed traps
this'll get u lot going.
i was semi racing a 2.0 16v vectra on the exact same stretch of road.
He overtook me and then i ate his dust. I did try to retain a bit of dignity lol.
Can't argue with valvers.
That makes me smile, because a 205 GTI 1.6 would be smiliar to the vectra? :roll:
That makes me smile, because a 205 GTI 1.6 would be smiliar to the vectra? :roll:
f f s...
Just thought I'd have my 2p's worth. I've got a nova GSi and my boyfriends got 205 1.6 GTi stripped out track car. We've both driven both cars and had them both on the track. He's owned a couple of nova's and peugeot's. He agree's that the peugeot handles better standard than the nova but performance wise they are closely matched. However, once a GSi is lowered and the standard "skinny" wheels replaced the nova handles much better.
When out on the track and in a straight line we both agree the nova's quicker (and a better car)!
Nice to meet you all by the way! :D
no speed traps
[nit picking mood]Well there must be to record speeds and times up the strip[/nit picking mood]
:wink:
dave.gsi
13-02-04, 05:01 PM
lol, think this is bad.
copied from roybacer.......
ive even had 122mph on there,it was downhill tho but still not bad for a 1.2i
:!: :lol:
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