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mikeoxford
28-01-04, 05:59 PM
my grand day out

yes i ventured out in the snow :(

what should have been a one hour rolling road session turned into a bit of a pain! and circa 5 hrs long

for those of you that know i have been doing my engine build progressively and slowly rather than build it all and drop it in. partly because of funding, partly because of time constraints

anyway long story short. i swapped my inlet t40 manifold at CP workshop and since then ive had a VERY LOUD tweet, EXACTLY like a bird. it pi$$ me off big time as im bored of the trill and bird seed jokes!

on arival at velos imediately they said inlet manifold is leaking. they KNEW exactly what was causing noise!

turns out on the injection head where the egr inlet is, i had blanked it by tapping/threading it and putting a big bolt / washer in it.

the old manifold was fine, but the new one appeared to have webbing in a different place or diffrent cast i didnt know about, which resulted in the washer being sandwiched between the head and inlet manifold.

so cylinder 3 was chuffing out power.

all was removed, and refitted at velos, the offending washer was removed / modified.

even with a little leak i managed 138BHP at the flywheel which is 110 at the road wheel. and 126lb torque

im happy enough with that (for now) :D have to see what times i can get in at the pod with my new car plans, dont see why sub 15 shouldnt be achievable - see you at the pod :twisted:

http://www.tws.serveftp.net/webspace/138bhp.jpg

Rick Draper
28-01-04, 07:19 PM
even with a little leak i managed 138BHP which is 110 at the flywheel. and 126lb torque

Please can you tell me how you managed to loose power between the wheel figure and the flywheel figure, it would apear you have a super transmission that increases power :roll: Rick

Lee H
28-01-04, 07:34 PM
im happy enough with that (for now) have to see what times i can get in at the pod with my new car plans, dont see why sub 15 shouldnt be achievable - see you at the pod

Or 17 secs with the drag from that wing :wink:

mikeoxford
28-01-04, 07:58 PM
even with a little leak i managed 138BHP which is 110 at the flywheel. and 126lb torque

Please can you tell me how you managed to loose power between the wheel figure and the flywheel figure, it would apear you have a super transmission that increases power :roll: Rick

:lol: LOL i edited that post about 4 tmes because of typing errors!

ive got the two figures back to front - ill go edit it ;) cheers for your constructive criticism :P

Will
28-01-04, 09:32 PM
good power there mike, impressed, so there is still a little leak? what can u do to fix this?

will

Mark
28-01-04, 10:16 PM
Well done Mike!

Neil.
28-01-04, 10:22 PM
well done mike, lets see if we can get my engine working like urs :)

Jim
28-01-04, 10:26 PM
Nice one Mike. Lets hope you get a decent time up the strip :)

Still think you should have done one last Sunday :P

Jim

elsey197
28-01-04, 10:48 PM
well done mate bet 138bhp feels nice to drive especially with the sound of the carbs :D

mikeoxford
28-01-04, 10:55 PM
good power there mike, impressed, so there is still a little leak? what can u do to fix this?

will

in exagerated terms, looking down the manifold its banana shaped now - its nowhere near that bad! putting an engineers straight edge down it showed it wasnt that far out, but ive warped it running with it twisted kinda thing.

we tried to seal it up and nip it up tight against the head, it seems to be holding, but there must be a tiny bit of air escaping still as spraying carb cleaner still makes engine go faster kinda thing.

we nipped it up a bit tighter, and its holding out like, to remedy it PROPERLEY though, it needs to come off and be face skimmed in the same way as a head or block.

will, neil, mark, jim, elsey - cheers.

jim, at velos they swapped the pump acelerator jets and also air corrector jets, so it wouldnt have got its best time, and also the weather put me off a bit, not having done it before i didnt fancy it with the track conditions the way they were

elsey - it does feel nice to drive :) the power curve is very smooth and its a nice little runabout round town now, its great to drive, stick it in fifth gear and you can cruise round town easily with the final drive the way it is. acelerating from 25 -> flat out if you want to be lazy and not change gear!

its nice to have the power to acelerate.

sound of the carbs? - - - MUHAHAHA *THE* best part of them

peester
28-01-04, 11:20 PM
all that hard work paid off mate. good stuff.

mikeoxford
28-01-04, 11:28 PM
all that hard work paid off mate. good stuff.

its not finnished yet! you cant have all go and no show. :wink:

cheers peester

apreciate it. its nice to have good comments. im hoping when its all nice and shiny after its had a tidy up she'll do me proud 8) go on girl!

nova---chris
29-01-04, 12:14 AM
Hmm carbs! i know the sound of them.
So does a certain driver of a very costly car lmao! :twisted:

mikeoxford
29-01-04, 12:32 AM
Hmm carbs! i know the sound of them.
So does a certain driver of a very costly car lmao! :twisted:

the story is not mine to tell...... ill let you do the honors! but sh!t me chris me and stu never laffed so much! the poor bloke must have felt right stupid. :+: you go mr.t !

nova---chris
29-01-04, 06:15 AM
Lmao nah! il leave it i think mr oxford. to many peeps probably wouldnt belive it m8. or take knocks at the story!!

But u know wot the score was! :wink:
(P.S About a metre was it?? lol)

Nice results by the way. now lets loose this spoiler and make it go pleaseeee

Jim
29-01-04, 08:26 AM
Come on, spill the beans you pair of cryptic cnuts :P

I take Chris embarassed some poor bloke in his Porsche again?

Jim

Aragorn
29-01-04, 09:38 AM
as far as i understand it mike and stu are sitting on the m1 doing about 80

stu sees a ferarri coming up and flashes mike

mike sees it too and thinks cool

the ferarri passes extremely fast and stuck to its rear bumper is CT (about a meter away) - they didnt even see CT till they passed he was that close

after that ferarri gave up and pulled in and CT did too


surely if you were doing 120ish you mustve been very close to redline CT?

peester
29-01-04, 11:02 AM
cool. novas hey; fastest car in the world.

nova---chris
29-01-04, 10:46 PM
Think around 135mph is me around the limiter (on a track of course)
rev limiter set to 8000rpm!
Me speedo is playing up also arghh!

But hey all is good fun:) :wink:

Stuart
30-01-04, 04:56 PM
child lol


i thought it would be another scooby or porsche, but a prancing donkey. fair play mate.

you seem to be going for the classier (ish) marks now, started with trying to draft a jag if i remember rightly lol


nice smooth curve mike, just need to work on the torque "curve" a bit ;)

benji
30-01-04, 07:15 PM
what ferarri was it?

Mark
30-01-04, 10:22 PM
what ferarri was it?


A red one..... :lol:

nova---chris
30-01-04, 11:22 PM
Right lets just clear this up!

Im not saying i beat or whooped it or anything else like that.
Just before me limiter i let of and pulled over.

But up to that point i was suprised that i managed to stick with it from around 50mph! Perhaps he wus taking it easy or whatever id ont know.
But wus just funny really.
The car in question i think was a modena.
around 390bhp 275lb ft torque weight i think around 1300kgs
they !/4 mle around 13 secs i think. dont take this for definate!

As for mine im only around 700kgs 200bhp/172 lb ft torque 1/4mile unknown yet for current running spec

Perhaps i have a good weight advantage there. maybe that helped ect
But like i say just a bit of fun!

All performed on private land! lol

locky
30-01-04, 11:34 PM
private land provided by the government? :wink:

Jim
30-01-04, 11:58 PM
Chris, your too modest, lol :P ;)

look forward to you getting in the 13's this year ;)

skud52
31-01-04, 09:51 AM
your cars looking good mate, keep the spoiler, looks good i think, nice power output anyway