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chappers1.3
28-01-04, 01:32 PM
what bhp would you be gettin from a 2ltr 16v nova with twin 45's on??

some guy said he would sell me 1 4 ?800, what u guys reckon??

yeah or neh?

cheers lads
Snowface
28-01-04, 06:29 PM
around 160 170 i would say if it was a redtop.
Ste_Nova
28-01-04, 06:33 PM
about 30 bhp?

so 180-185
mikeoxford
28-01-04, 08:26 PM
if you can get it for ?800 id buy it and even if you didnt use it sell it on!!! :wink:
Barn
28-01-04, 09:04 PM
whats so special about these red-tops then guys?
Snowface
28-01-04, 10:20 PM
their not ecotec engines i.e. more powerful due to less stringent emmisions laws when they were made.
I think thats right anyway. I know they like 15 ponies less or something.
chappers1.3
03-02-04, 09:17 AM
the guy said it came out of a V reg astra. is this the red top version??
ydg27
03-02-04, 09:23 AM
dont think so, that being a late one is ecotec, ya can get them out of early cav GSi's e.g. j or k reg
Ben3042
04-02-04, 12:56 AM
Its more than likely the ecotec version.
chappers1.3
04-02-04, 09:40 AM
are the ecotech engines a lot more restricted? he seems to think that its puttin out about 180ish, is this poss with just the 45's on it??
Aragorn
04-02-04, 10:53 AM
ct is running 200bhp on a redtop

im not 100% sure on the ecotec changes but i'd imagine theres not much mechanical difference between the engines - probably mostl of the differences are in the ecu software so 180bhp on carbs wouldnt be too bad and estimation i guess

i'd like to have seen him get that engine thru the MOT :|
Austin_Nova16
04-02-04, 02:17 PM
about 30 bhp?

so 180-185

Exactly. Mine was approx 185 at the flywheel.
This was on a fully re-built engine.

I have been to a rr day where all of the standard XE motors were running around 136 - 140bhp at the flywheel. This shows that there are a lot of engines with high miles out there lacking a bit of power.....so watch out.
chappers1.3
04-02-04, 05:15 PM
he's puttin it through the MOT today, so we'll see.

If it aint got an ECU wont it in theory be the same as a Redtop on carbs? or are the enjines different in some way?

wel he has been down to santa pod in it and managed to get 14.5secs down the strip.

how would you go about insuring a car like this? would they class it to be the same as an astra 16v?

cheers
Stuart
04-02-04, 06:15 PM
the ecotec heads are different to allow more hippy friendly emissions.