How dam SLOW are SAXO VTR's

[scott.parker]

oh man ther is the most typical boy racer t\/\/at down by me and hes got this VTR,he got k&n and a back box on it and guess what lexus lights!! any way he asked me what was under my bonnet,i said an ENGINE :lol: he asked yeah what,so i told him stadard GSI,he looked to his missis and laught....then said fancy a race when the lights chage,so i thought about it and said Naa.So he go's wheel spinning off up the road,we then get to the next set of light's he says thats well slow,so i thoght ohh fvck it,and booted it off the lights...and he fell behinde like,well like a sh1t slow VTR!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: slow crap & funny..
oh i must's say i dont condone illegal street racing..but it had to be done. :lol: :D

[DazK]

:lol:

nice one mate 8)

[XZiBiT]

i hate saxo drivers a vts gave it to me on the way home today i well made him look silly :lol:

[dan_mk1]

very

[nova m@rk]

dont get me started on saxo's i even had my mom askin me why i didnt buy a saxo like my mate lees westcoast .... simple....
im only 17 and i aint got a rich daddy like him &
THERE SHIT

[XZiBiT]

lol a rich mans nova??? nah that would be a 2.016v nova:P

[srs1]

i hope you got out the car at the next set of lights and whiped your ass all over his wind screen for good messure.

i dont race, i just drive my car hard. so people get the wrond idea! denny

[Jonny5uk]

Those new C2 VTR & C2 GT aren't much better either,

Anyone seen the ad's for the C2 GT? They are trying to sell it saying 0-60 in 9.5 seconds !!

Even the saxo VTR is quicker than that. Why bring out a new car and make is slower than a older less superior model :?

Guess its for the lower insurance groups...


*edit by Ian* for advertising banners contact dan@novaload.net

[nova m@rk]

nah saxos will never have a a following like novas hope not anyway
french sh1t

[dan_mk1]

burberry boys have gone from
novas to
saxos to
1.2 16v renault clios

[scott.parker]

lol ha ha ha ha ha :lol: :lol: :lol: yeah true.. they shold all be shot :2gunfire:

[Jules]

Did something very similar to a Fiesta Zetec S in my old black 1.6T40 - I was 2 up he was on his own - Pasted him good and proper up tp 100 then I eased off as I couldn't see him in my mirrors.................
(And we hadn't even gone very far neither!!)

All on a private road of course.........
:o

[Ste_Nova]

saxo vtr... 95bhp.... i have them off in my 1.4sr

[tetley]

oh man ther is the most typical boy racer t\/\/at down by me and hes got this VTR,he got k&n and a back box on it and guess what lexus lights!! any way he asked me what was under my bonnet,i said an ENGINE :lol: he asked yeah what,so i told him stadard GSI,he looked to his missis and laught....then said fancy a race when the lights chage,so i thought about it and said Naa.So he go's wheel spinning off up the road,we then get to the next set of light's he says thats well slow,so i thoght ohh fvck it,and booted it off the lights...and he fell behinde like,well like a sh1t slow VTR!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: slow crap & funny..
oh i must's say i dont condone illegal street racing..but it had to be done. :lol: :D

I always thought VTR's were quicker than the GSI not by much mind u.

whats the statistics on both cars?

[Jack]

whats the statistics on both cars?

Carfolio.com reckons the VTR (listed as VTS 1.6i 8v) is 87bhp, 100lbft of torque, 920Kg, 0-60 in 11.4... and the Nova GTE (listed as Opel Corsa GTE) as 100bhp, 99lbft of torque, 820Kg and 0-60 in 9.1

Dunno how accurate that is, but looking at those stats the nova ought to flounce a VTR!!

[krobinson]

Anyways scott, your slagging him for having lexus lights, but you've got a delta bumper :roll:

But far play for wipping his ass, he deserved it :D

Keith

[olly55]

did the saxo have 17s too?

[dan_mk1]

whats the statistics on both cars?

Carfolio.com reckons the VTR (listed as VTS 1.6i 8v) is 87bhp, 100lbft of torque, 920Kg, 0-60 in 11.4... and the Nova GTE (listed as Opel Corsa GTE) as 100bhp, 99lbft of torque, 820Kg and 0-60 in 9.1

Dunno how accurate that is, but looking at those stats the nova ought to flounce a VTR!!

them figures sound well iffy, i seriously doubt it would have 100lbft. and i thought they was around 9.5 to 60

[tetley]

whats the statistics on both cars?

Carfolio.com reckons the VTR (listed as VTS 1.6i 8v) is 87bhp, 100lbft of torque, 920Kg, 0-60 in 11.4... and the Nova GTE (listed as Opel Corsa GTE) as 100bhp, 99lbft of torque, 820Kg and 0-60 in 9.1

Dunno how accurate that is, but looking at those stats the nova ought to flounce a VTR!!

them figures sound well iffy, i seriously doubt it would have 100lbft. and i thought they was around 9.5 to 60

I agree mate, just looked up and they have 0-60 in about 9.5, the later models had 102BHP so wud beat a nova probably, i rekon this guy didnt bother trying at the lights second time coz he had nothing to prove

[krobinson]

Nope.. i've driven a 1.4SR and beat a few saxo VTR's

You have to remember the saxo is much heavier than the Nova..

Keith

[Paul]

I really want to race a VTR, I've got a few people to shut up!

My mate drove my car in the wet down a bumpy old uindustrial estate road, raced a VTR, did him up to bout 50, despite spinning up nearly all the way to then. (Was very wet! lol) And then the Saxo came back na dbeat my mate.

However mine is aonly a 1.4 SR lightlty modded.

Should i be looking to beat one?

[Barn]

saxo drivers are the biggest wan kers going

[dan_mk1]

saxo drivers are the biggest wan kers going

how fucking wrong is that!? aint that a bit of a stero type!?

[LregNovagsi]

My boyfriend was out in my car one day and a VTS came up along side him, of course they raced and my car just left this vts. There was a thing on another site about how quick VTS's are and i just happened to mention that myn left one and there was this big debate about how much of a lier i was etc etc, and yes, i've seen this vts driving about and it deffinatley isn't a westcoast vts look a like! I think now people have such a bad name for nova's that they won't accept that they are quicker than some things! I think they just expect them to fall apart as soon as they're raced due to the rust!!!! :roll:

[Ste_Nova]

how many of you have driven a saxo vtr.... i have it was slow!

http://uploader.co.uk/images/2309warr029.jpg

[Snowface]

saxo drivers are the biggest wan kers going

some people say the same about Nova drivers, its just a small minority who let the side down.

[Barn]

how fcuking wrong is that!? aint that a bit of a stero type!?
yeh it is wrong of me to be so stereotypical...lol....but I've got a mutha of a hangover atm and it just came out...

i don't like it when people stereotype others....so I apologise

[Mattie425]

Hey everybody, im Jbobo's lil bro. I love Nova's and cannot stand the saxo just so damn ugly and well rubbish.

[Will]

my 1400 used to piss VTRS

my GSI plays with VTS's quite happily, they are not all that by any means due to "mod cons" crap like ABS, power sterring and the like weighing a lot :P

of course i really dont give a fook, my car drives and is nippy enough for the work run of 70 miles a day so thats all i give a toss abt tbh :D

[scott.parker]

Dam...i take it this was a good thing for everyone to tallk about,,well i dont minde what anyone say's cos the saxo vtr was a mk1 which is the 98bhp model and i pissed allover it....oh and the reason i said about the lexus lights was cos they all have them!! oh and korbinson if you hadent noticed my bumper's not a sandard delta bumper!..anyway i know you hate my car so what.. :lol: why you are so harsh on my choice of mod's to my car ive no idea,have you seen some of the1.2's they have mader kits on...

[Phil_G]

how many of you have driven a saxo vtr.... i have it was slow!

http://uploader.co.uk/images/2309warr029.jpg

ste,

you look embarassed in that pic

[Dpnova]

i hope you got out the car at the next set of lights and whiped your ass all over his wind screen for good messure.

i dont race, i just drive my car hard. so people get the wrond idea! denny

Im no where to be seen and yet you still have to mention me, tut tut.

I have driven a saxo and ragged it, they are bitch slow

[dikharvey]

Saxo - 90BHP - 116MPH - 9.9Sec
Nova - 100BHP - 117HMP - 9.1Sec

Me thinks?,,,,

[tetley]

My boyfriend was out in my car one day and a VTS came up along side him, of course they raced and my car just left this vts. There was a thing on another site about how quick VTS's are and i just happened to mention that myn left one and there was this big debate about how much of a lier i was etc etc, and yes, i've seen this vts driving about and it deffinatley isn't a westcoast vts look a like! I think now people have such a bad name for nova's that they won't accept that they are quicker than some things! I think they just expect them to fall apart as soon as they're raced due to the rust!!!! :roll:

Are some people mad on this forum or something, or just plain stupid. There is no way on hell or earth that a nova GSI would compete with a saxo VTS.

The saxo cud start in second and probably win. He proably wasnt even trying, why wud he against a nova?, no offence but as we have had in other posts, they are in different leagues, i doubt the VTR could compete let alone the 122 BHP 16v VTS, that has an official 0-60 time of 7.6 Seconds

[LregNovagsi]

'tetley' i don't consider myself stupid thanks, i had the same conversation with the boyfriend, how the hell did a VTs loose against my little nova, but he did, and thats the plain and short of it. Maybe this guy in the saxo just had no idea how to drive, fluffed a gear change, etc etc, but when they came to a stand still, this guy in the saxo just shrugged his shoulders. I can only tell you what he said, and i doubt he has any need to lie, the guy in the saxo always puts thumbs up now when i'm driving so....... Maybe he just couldn't drive!!!! The boyfriend has lots of experiance of driving hard with the cossie, so maybe he just had the uper hand.

[hendrix]

I really p***ed my friend off when he baught his saxo hehe. He payed 3800 quid for it and offered me a race in my SRi which cost me 300 quid and had just had a top end rebuild. My car was completely standard apart from a big bore and some 15's. He expected to beat me but..... HE DIDNT :twisted:
i think he was more annoyed with the amount of money he spent compared to me. hehehe

[tetley]

so have u tested ur car to 60 then, what mods have u got, i can only assume its been chipped with a 2 litre engine badged as a GSI then.

yeah they would prob beat the VTS they can be fast.

[jkhilton]

'tetley' i don't consider myself stupis thanks,


LMFAO!!!! thought this was pretty funny, I'm sure it's only a typo, but it made me laugh!! :lol: :lol:

[dan_mk1]

tetley FFS shut up about 0-60!
0-60 means jack in the real world, yes a standard vts vs a standard gsi, the saxo would win on all areas (apart from leg room!) you never know what happens with 'races'. She could be lying, the other guy could have fluffed a gearchange, the vts might have been brand new therefore he was keeping it under 3.5k, he might not have known how to get the best out of his car etc etc the possibilities are endless! :evil:

RANT OVER

[dan_mk1]

so have u tested ur car to 60 then, what mods have u got, i can only assume its been chipped with a 2 litre engine badged as a GSI then.

yeah they would prob beat the VTS they can be fast.

oooo a chip!? chips can make standard cars whoop rarri's!! :roll:

[Ste_Nova]

(apart from leg room!)


seat quality and finishs.... dash finish... rattles... the fact that 50% of the throttle just adds noise... no extra go..

and anyway... the..

west coast = nova 1.4 sri
vtr 1.6 8v = nova gsi 8v
vts 1.6 16v = nova gsi with c16xe + lex or power box

saxo looses every time :lol:

[jkhilton]

especially crinkle cut oven chips!! they add atleast 200bhp and if you replace the oil with gravy and a pie instead of an airfilter, the skys the limit!!! :lol:

[tetley]

everyone on here is a typical nova driver
:roll:

[dan_mk1]

(apart from leg room!)


seat quality and finishs.... dash finish... rattles... the fact that 50% of the throttle just adds noise... no extra go..

and anyway... the..

west coast = nova 1.4 sri
vtr 1.6 8v = nova gsi 8v
vts 1.6 16v = nova gsi with c16xe + lex or power box

saxo looses every time :lol:

(here we go again :roll: :lol: ) im talking standard vts vs standard gsi
ill rephrase my quote.


tetley FFS shut up about 0-60!
0-60 means jack in the real world, yes a standard vts vs a standard gsi, the saxo would win on all areas (apart from leg room, dash finish, rattles!) you never know what happens with 'races'. She could be lying, the other guy could have fluffed a gearchange, the vts might have been brand new therefore he was keeping it under 3.5k, he might not have known how to get the best out of his car etc etc the possibilities are endless!

RANT OVER

happy ste? :lol:



especially crinkle cut oven chips!! they add atleast 200bhp and if you replace the oil with gravy and a pie instead of an airfilter, the skys the limit!!!

lol, john you really shouldnt say stuff like that, people like tetley might actually go and try it! :lol: :roll:

[jkhilton]

everyone on here is a typical nova driver
:roll:

I drive a megane!! :lol:

[dan_mk1]

everyone on here is a typical nova driver
:roll:

lol, what makes you say that? the fact that we know more about cars/reality than you?

[tetley]

most people do, i dont care, its the stupid comments about the crinkle chips and shit like that.

novas are rust buckets, past there time, and give a bad image to younger drivers.

[jkhilton]

sorry, I forgot that everything in this world has to be extremely serious all the time.

for those that dont know, it would probably not be a good idea to put crinkle chips,gravy or pies into your engine!!!


lmfao! :roll: :lol:

[dan_mk1]

sorry, I forgot that everything in this world has to be extremely serious all the time.

for those that dont know, it would probably not be a good idea to put crinkle chips,gravy or pies into your engine!!!


lmfao! :roll: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[tetley]

Sssssssssssss

Sorry, i am into gravy and chips!!

Anyway, i wont be on here any longer, goin back home so next time tetleys on here it will be tetley!!

dunno why he comes on here personally

[nova_rally]

Lets Face it - Saxos are crap, Novas are crap. You want a small car with decent build quality and performance you have to look at Japanese K class cars. These are limited to 65HP and they still kick ass. There's also the Suzuki Swift, but I don't think that's a K-Car.

Some K-cars for you:

Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato: 850cc, 63 BHP (turbocharged) top speed 100, 0-60 of 8.5

Mazda 121 (Kia pride version, carburettor, NA): 1234cc, 65BHP (NA) top speed 109, 0-60 in 10.3

Kia Pride (MPI): 1324cc, 63BHP (NA) top speed 98(would do 109), 0-60 in 11-12 seconds depending on engine. (mazda engine 11, Kia engine 12)

Now for some other similar cars:

Nova 1.4SR: 1389cc, 72BHP (NA) top speed of about 105ish, 0-60 in 12 seconds (if you're lucky)

Peugeot 106: 1.1 SPI (NA) (dunno what the proper size is) 61HP, top speed 105, 0-60 of 15

Ford Ka: 1297cc (NA), 58HP top speed of 105, 0-60: of 12.

That's enough of that anyway! Iknow which 1 I'd choose. (and used to own- The Mazda 121). It may not beat a GSI, but then I don't care - in terms of engine size and it's limited power It kicks more ass then any Nova!

Alan

(back to my rusty creaky slow, scrapheap 1.4SR)

[Ste_Nova]

seat quality and finishs.... dash finish... rattles... the fact that 50% of the throttle just adds noise... no extra go..

and anyway... the..

west coast = nova 1.4 sri
vtr 1.6 8v = nova gsi 8v
vts 1.6 16v = nova gsi with c16xe + lex or power box

saxo looses every time :lol:

(here we go again :roll: :lol: ) im talking standard vts vs standard gsi
ill rephrase my quote.

VTR 1.6 8v V Nova GSi 1.6 8v = now thats fair... same engine size.... same valves... same number of seats.... same size wheels...

nova wins... end of

[Ste_Nova]

Lets Face it - Saxos are crap, Novas are crap. You want a small car with decent build quality


my nova is fully hand built... quality isn't a problem :lol:

[Jules]

everyone on here is a typical nova driver
:roll:
_________________
my standard 1.2 nova will go to 102mph



Yeah, that includes you, Mr '102mph from a standard 1.2'
Can a standard 1.2 Saxo do 110mph then in that case?
:roll:

[srs1]

ergh, i got banned from driving in a saxo 1.1, average speed of 103.8. was doing 110 before i noticed the copper. (it was a hire car and i would not put my name to a saxo's log book)

[Ballsy]

i used to keep up with them in my 1.4sri, nowadays i just laugh as i fly past them in the m3

[Ben3042]

Lets Face it - Saxos are crap, Novas are crap. You want a small car with decent build quality and performance you have to look at Japanese K class cars. These are limited to 65HP and they still kick ass. There's also the Suzuki Swift, but I don't think that's a K-Car.

Some K-cars for you:

Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato: 850cc, 63 BHP (turbocharged) top speed 100, 0-60 of 8.5

Mazda 121 (Kia pride version, carburettor, NA): 1234cc, 65BHP (NA) top speed 109, 0-60 in 10.3

Kia Pride (MPI): 1324cc, 63BHP (NA) top speed 98(would do 109), 0-60 in 11-12 seconds depending on engine. (mazda engine 11, Kia engine 12)

Now for some other similar cars:

Nova 1.4SR: 1389cc, 72BHP (NA) top speed of about 105ish, 0-60 in 12 seconds (if you're lucky)

Peugeot 106: 1.1 SPI (NA) (dunno what the proper size is) 61HP, top speed 105, 0-60 of 15

Ford Ka: 1297cc (NA), 58HP top speed of 105, 0-60: of 12.

That's enough of that anyway! Iknow which 1 I'd choose. (and used to own- The Mazda 121). It may not beat a GSI, but then I don't care - in terms of engine size and it's limited power It kicks more ass then any Nova!

Alan

(back to my rusty creaky slow, scrapheap 1.4SR)

Where did you get them figures from :roll:

1.4 sr will do alot more than 105 mph mate

[epo]

ive driven a vtr and yes it was slow didnt like it

ive driven the vts and that was well quick actually quite like the vts for some reason

[Euan]

my mate has more problems with his saxo (couple of year old ) than i do with my sr and that is a lot of problems!! 8)

[epo]

Lets Face it - Saxos are crap, Novas are crap. You want a small car with decent build quality and performance you have to look at Japanese K class cars. These are limited to 65HP and they still kick ass. There's also the Suzuki Swift, but I don't think that's a K-Car.

Some K-cars for you:

Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato: 850cc, 63 BHP (turbocharged) top speed 100, 0-60 of 8.5

Mazda 121 (Kia pride version, carburettor, NA): 1234cc, 65BHP (NA) top speed 109, 0-60 in 10.3

Kia Pride (MPI): 1324cc, 63BHP (NA) top speed 98(would do 109), 0-60 in 11-12 seconds depending on engine. (mazda engine 11, Kia engine 12)

Now for some other similar cars:

Nova 1.4SR: 1389cc, 72BHP (NA) top speed of about 105ish, 0-60 in 12 seconds (if you're lucky)

Peugeot 106: 1.1 SPI (NA) (dunno what the proper size is) 61HP, top speed 105, 0-60 of 15

Ford Ka: 1297cc (NA), 58HP top speed of 105, 0-60: of 12.

That's enough of that anyway! Iknow which 1 I'd choose. (and used to own- The Mazda 121). It may not beat a GSI, but then I don't care - in terms of engine size and it's limited power It kicks more ass then any Nova!

Alan

(back to my rusty creaky slow, scrapheap 1.4SR)

id rather pull my own head off than drive any of them little jap cars there pig ugly
the only little jap car i dont mind is the swift gti

[tetley]

Lets Face it - Saxos are crap, Novas are crap. You want a small car with decent build quality and performance you have to look at Japanese K class cars. These are limited to 65HP and they still kick ass. There's also the Suzuki Swift, but I don't think that's a K-Car.

Some K-cars for you:

Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato: 850cc, 63 BHP (turbocharged) top speed 100, 0-60 of 8.5

Mazda 121 (Kia pride version, carburettor, NA): 1234cc, 65BHP (NA) top speed 109, 0-60 in 10.3

Kia Pride (MPI): 1324cc, 63BHP (NA) top speed 98(would do 109), 0-60 in 11-12 seconds depending on engine. (mazda engine 11, Kia engine 12)

Now for some other similar cars:

Nova 1.4SR: 1389cc, 72BHP (NA) top speed of about 105ish, 0-60 in 12 seconds (if you're lucky)

Peugeot 106: 1.1 SPI (NA) (dunno what the proper size is) 61HP, top speed 105, 0-60 of 15

Ford Ka: 1297cc (NA), 58HP top speed of 105, 0-60: of 12.

That's enough of that anyway! Iknow which 1 I'd choose. (and used to own- The Mazda 121). It may not beat a GSI, but then I don't care - in terms of engine size and it's limited power It kicks more ass then any Nova!

Alan

(back to my rusty creaky slow, scrapheap 1.4SR)

id rather pull my own head off than drive any of them little jap cars there pig ugly
the only little jap car i dont mind is the swift gti

I think hes got some valid points, the Ford KA is a lovely little car, cheap reliable, nippy around town, then the mazda, nice car, very quick for engine size. Then u look at the heap of a nova SR :lol: is there any competition really. rust buckets!, yeah my little thing was lovely but i wont brag it in comparison to other better cars. Great frist time cars, but apart from that. Id put it in the skip

[LregNovagsi]

Tell me tetley, why oh why are you on here? if you like Ka's so much, won't don't you go on to one of their owners sites if they have one.
I'm sorry, but if you have such a hatred towards Nova's, why bother coming on to an owners site? You're only winding people up and there's just no need for it. Novaload i have found includes people that really just want to appreciate their car, not have it slagged off by the likes of you.

[tetley]

i appreciate everyone has their opinions on cars, but it annoys me when people start talking crap like beating saxo VTS, in SR's. ITs absoloute ludicrous. everyone keeps slaggin other cars off, Why?

[Jules]

The same reason you come here and say how crap and rusty Nova's are.
Remember some Novas are getting on for 15 to 20 years old, are you telling me that after 15 or 20 years that F*rd Ka's won't be getting rusty?

[Ste_Nova]

telling me that after 15 or 20 years that F*rd Ka's won't be getting rusty?

plastic doesn't rust?

[Philsutton]

Come 15 years from now an there wont be any saxo's about cos the people drive havent a clue how to drive them. Ive seen far more saxo's at scrap yards than novas that have rusted through. The average life span of a saxo's is about long enough to get some stupidly big wheels on an put a VTS engine into their 1.1 before it mates with a tree. :roll:

[dan_mk1]

i appreciate everyone has their opinions on cars, but it annoys me when people start talking crap like beating saxo VTS, in SR's. ITs absoloute ludicrous. everyone keeps slaggin other cars off, Why?

LOL, your the one who was saying you could beat a 106 gti in a corsa SRI? thats exactly the same situation

[epo]

not all nova's are rust buckets it depends how well looked after they are

as for ownin a ford ka
id rather pull me head off than have 1 :lol:

[tom_beverley]

Id rather have my nova than most other cars of similar spec, they are way better! Mines an F reg got no rust at all, its done 100,000 miles and still never fcuks up, it starts first time just like a new car lol. And as for


Nova 1.4SR: 1389cc, 72BHP (NA) top speed of about 105ish, 0-60 in 12 seconds (if you're lucky)

Ive been in my mate 1.4sr's and they all do at least 10mph faster than that and get to 60 quicker! My 1.2 gets to 110 a piece of piss lol

LONG LIVE THE NOVA HAHA

tom

[Aragorn]

your nova 1.2 aint getting to 110 although the clock my read 110

theres a difference

my digidash which seems relatively accurate for me so far has only ever clocked up 115mph on a flat in my 1.4 with gte head and injection thats prolly running in the region of 80-85bhp

100ish outta a 1.2 is about max

110 for a standard 14sr

[dan_mk1]

My 1.2 gets to 110 a piece of p**s lol


i dont think any standard nova gets to 110 a piece of piss, mine gets to about 70 then it takes an age to go any faster and hits a brick wall at 100 (70k, fsh, serviced regulary etc so the engine is in good nick)

[Ste_Nova]

work off the revs... my gf had my standard 1.4sr reving at 6,500 in 5th.. speedo was well off the clock

[Barn]

Tell me tetley, why oh why are you on here? if you like Ka's so much, won't don't you go on to one of their owners sites if they have one.
I'm sorry, but if you have such a hatred towards Nova's, why bother coming on to an owners site? You're only winding people up and there's just no need for it. Novaload i have found includes people that really just want to appreciate their car, not have it slagged off by the likes of you.
tetley, take the hint.

and Ford Ka's, lol, i learned in one of those. one word....gay.

aint done a top-speed run (lol) in my SR yet, but have got to an indicated 110mph with three people in the car and it had a bit to go.

Ste_Nova that is quite a statement!

all the best

[epo]

Aragorn doesnt a gte head on a 1.4 slow it down?

[XZiBiT]

quite a hefty debate going on here as for rusty nova 's il put my nova to the test against any saxo and il film it ;) nah i aint got shit to prove i love nova's always will they may be dated mines 20 years old ok its had an engine conversion and a full body rebuild but i think and others that old nova's look a peach its all about personal preferance i guess some people hate vauxhall full stop...and drive there golf vr6...i personaly think the 2.0xe redtop is the most reliable engine out there its just me likin what i like thats my 2 pence ;)

[nova_rally]

telling me that after 15 or 20 years that F*rd Ka's won't be getting rusty?

plastic doesn't rust?

LOL! There is metal in there somehwere! (or so I'm told) :lol:

I think those Specs for the 1.4SR are for the F10WR gearbox version. I'd rather have my omld Mazda 121 back any day - wipes the floor with the SR. (and the Ford Ka - which I learnt to drive in at the same time as I was driving the Mazda unofficially!) :twisted:

Alan

[epo]

yes but the mazda looks gay :!:

[dan_mk1]

does look rather camp!
most of them jap supermini shite do

[nova_rally]

Kia Pride looks like Mk1 Nova with nicer interior and better engine!

However there are some exceptions to the ugliness:

http://www.ychwaral.supanet.com/yellowpride02.jpg

Kia Pride with ATH bodykit...

http://www.ychwaral.supanet.com/Rimg0406.jpg

My Old Rally Car.... :lol: (before it was treated to new wheel paint and Red Mudflaps...not really an exception but It was FAST!)

http://www.ychwaral.supanet.com/DSCN0043.jpg
Ford Festiva (Mazda 121) Single Seater Racing in America...

There are many more - all you have to do is visit www.fordfestiva.com...

Alan

[Ben3042]

Kia Pride looks like Mk1 Nova with nicer interior and better engine!

However there are some exceptions to the ugliness:

http://www.ychwaral.supanet.com/yellowpride02.jpg

Kia Pride with ATH bodykit...

http://www.ychwaral.supanet.com/Rimg0406.jpg

My Old Rally Car.... :lol: (before it was treated to new wheel paint and Red Mudflaps...not really an exception but It was FAST!)

http://www.ychwaral.supanet.com/DSCN0043.jpg
Ford Festiva (Mazda 121) Single Seater Racing in America...

There are many more - all you have to do is visit www.fordfestiva.com...

Alan


Id say that they look more like a mk2 nova than a mk1. there horrible in my opinion.

[dave.gsi]

:o if my nova looked like that i would buy myself a corsa



it looks like a shitty micra

[peester]

well the lad has seen sense now.

[srs1]

right i'm going to go and get drunk now and see if i can see the resemblence of a kia to a nova.
personally i think they look like a mk1 micra. and if anyone says to me in public i had a kia, i would drive the car to the nearest field and set fire to it.

[epo]

there mingin :!:

[Barn]

right i'm going to go and get drunk now and see if i can see the resemblence of a kia to a nova.
I'd have to agree with you.
not being funny but they don't look anything like a nova. I also don't think a Ford Ka would beat my SR (in a million years).

all the best lads

[Ian]

kas are already rusting, little fact told to me by sy@novaheaven who sold his nova for one and his gf runs ka klub

[scott.parker]

hang on what happend to the topic at hand,that was the slownes of saxo vtr's! :P

[locky]

With this mass debate topic (*chuckle*) we are missing an important factor with beating another car.
Drivers.
NO two drivers are the same!

[Philsutton]

With this mass debate topic (*chuckle*) we are missing an important factor with beating another car.
Drivers.
NO two drivers are the same!

thats one reason why saxo's arent fast

[scott.parker]

yeah there drivers are all a bit S___L___O___W__! :lol:

[ydg27]

i can kill VTR's but the VTS is a real challenge
as for top ends with 5 peeps in the car i hit 123mph and it was still pulling had to back off.
pug 106GTi = no chance they are well quick.
1.2 16v clio = ha ha ha what a piece of shit!!!!!!

[Philsutton]

well i didnt see any VTS's or 106 GTI's setting any good times yesterday at santa pod, considering people seem to think that they are faster than mine they didnt suggest that to me after seeing them on the strip

[tetley]

well i didnt see any VTS's or 106 GTI's setting any good times yesterday at santa pod, considering people seem to think that they are faster than mine they didnt suggest that to me after seeing them on the strip

So what ,why would they, they are in complete different leagues sunshine,

Thats like saying people getting lap times with a Ferrari didnt suggest to someone that they are faster than a VTS. :lol:

1.4sr versus VTS, or 106 GTI, ive heard it all now

[Jim]

Before I say anything I want to make it clear that I love my Nova to bits. However, that doesn't mean that I think all other cars are pieces of c**p that deserve to be slagged off.

The original comment was about Scott.1off sp beating a vtr. This doesn't mean to say that all VTR's and VTS's are slow. The truth is, you don't know how good a driver the other person is or how hard they were pushing thier car. It's only until you've actually driven the car yourself to compare that you can give a fair opinion. Several people have driven the Saxo and other similar cars and I appreciate thier comments.

Personnaly, I've raced a Saxo VTs in my 1.6 on twin 40's. Although I wasn't pushing my car as hard as I could, the saxo was keeping up with me to a certain extent. I wouldn't say "I pi**ed all over him" like some people are saying. The VTS is a quick car and I give it credit along with many other similar cars, such as the 106 Gti.

As for this comment...


1.2 16v clio = ha ha ha what a piece of s**t!!!!!!

...have you been in a 1.2 Clio? I happen to own one with my girlfriend and it's a cracking car. It's a 1.2 16v sport, and I can't fault it (other than a poor turning circle). It's a great car and great value for money. Power Steering, sports trim, 15" Alloys, ABS, the list goes on. It's nice to drive the Clio with mod cons compared to my 11 year old Nova.

Try not to be so narrow minded people. Yes, this is a Nova enthusiasts site, but that doesn't mean we have to sit here and slag of other makes of cars.

Jim

[linzTDI]

I know a few people with paxos who i go to meets with etc and i think the VTR is reasonably quick at acceleration as my mate always pulls away from me in the polo as if i were in a 1.2

VTS's are well fast tho there BASICALLY the same as the pug 106GTI.
I think a VTS would probably beat a standard GSI Nova not a valva tho

[tetley]

Before I say anything I want to make it clear that I love my Nova to bits. However, that doesn't mean that I think all other cars are pieces of c**p that deserve to be slagged off.

The original comment was about Scott.1off sp beating a vtr. This doesn't mean to say that all VTR's and VTS's are slow. The truth is, you don't know how good a driver the other person is or how hard they were pushing thier car. It's only until you've actually driven the car yourself to compare that you can give a fair opinion. Several people have driven the Saxo and other similar cars and I appreciate thier comments.

Personnaly, I've raced a Saxo VTs in my 1.6 on twin 40's. Although I wasn't pushing my car as hard as I could, the saxo was keeping up with me to a certain extent. I wouldn't say "I pi**ed all over him" like some people are saying. The VTS is a quick car and I give it credit along with many other similar cars, such as the 106 Gti.

As for this comment...


1.2 16v clio = ha ha ha what a piece of s**t!!!!!!

...have you been in a 1.2 Clio? I happen to own one with my girlfriend and it's a cracking car. It's a 1.2 16v sport, and I can't fault it (other than a poor turning circle). It's a great car and great value for money. Power Steering, sports trim, 15" Alloys, ABS, the list goes on. It's nice to drive the Clio with mod cons compared to my 11 year old Nova.

Try not to be so narrow minded people. Yes, this is a Nova enthusiasts site, but that doesn't mean we have to sit here and slag of other makes of cars.

Jim

Nice one Jim nicely put :)

[DUNOVA.]

I had a vtr in my old nova 1.3sr and my old car was a dog :lol:

[ydg27]

i was on about performance of a 1.2 16v sport clio - sorry
they may be nice to drive but they aint very quick relating to the comment on the 1st or 2nd page.

there is a lad going out with my mates sister and he keeps trying to race me and it gets embarrassing for him, thats all i am saying - my apologies again

[tetley]

I had a vtr in my old nova 1.3sr and my old car was a dog :lol:


This is the kind of comment jim is talking about,

Stop talking bollux!!!

a 1.3sr, versus VTR 100bhp, are u mad!!!

[Jim]

i was on about performance of a 1.2 16v sport clio - sorry
they may be nice to drive but they aint very quick relating to the comment on the 1st or 2nd page.

There not very quick because they are only 1.2. However, I've driven other 1.2's before and I've been really impressed with this Clio, I think it goes pretty well.

Jim

[Ian]

Personnaly, I've raced a Saxo VTs in my 1.6 on twin 40's. Although I wasn't pushing my car as hard as I could, the saxo was keeping up with me to a certain extent. I wouldn't say "I pi**ed all over him" like some people are saying. The VTS is a quick car and I give it credit along with many other similar cars, such as the 106 Gti.


thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

[Jim]

thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

LMFAO, Cheeky git! :P

Jim

[nova m@rk]

There not very quick because they are only 1.2. However, I've driven other 1.2's before and I've been really impressed with this Clio, I think it goes pretty well.
my mates new corsa sxi is pretty quick kept up wiv my other mates
GTE through the country lanes by us and on the B-roads
(not that we were racing or anything) caugh caugh

[srs1]

my bro has just got a new corsa 1.2 sxi. have to admitt, for a 1.2 i was impressed with it. but then again, it is a brand new car.

[tetley]

Personnaly, I've raced a Saxo VTs in my 1.6 on twin 40's. Although I wasn't pushing my car as hard as I could, the saxo was keeping up with me to a certain extent. I wouldn't say "I pi**ed all over him" like some people are saying. The VTS is a quick car and I give it credit along with many other similar cars, such as the 106 Gti.


thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

[Jim]

thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

[tetley]

thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

[Euan]

werent you going to buy a corsa sri?

[Jim]

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

It is possible to get a 1.6 8v to perform much better than a 106Gti, Saxo VTS, and even much more powerful cars. According to this website:

http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/rivals_cars.htm

The 106 gti = 16.5
The Saxo VTS = 16.1

I ran a 1/4mile time of 15.2 seconds at SantaPod last year. Thats over a second quicker than the Pug and nearly a second quicker than the Saxo VTS. Dan on this site has run a 1/4mile of 14.9 seconds, which is even quicker and his car is similar spec to mine: N/A 1.6 8v on twin 40's.

So it is possible to create a 1.6 8v Nova that will quite easily beat the 106 and VTS.

Jim

[tetley]

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

It is possible to get a 1.6 8v to perform much better than a 106Gti, Saxo VTS, and even much more powerful cars. According to this website:

http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/rivals_cars.htm

The 106 gti = 16.5
The Saxo VTS = 16.1

I ran a 1/4mile time of 15.2 seconds at SantaPod last year. Thats over a second quicker than the Pug and nearly a second quicker than the Saxo VTS. Dan on this site has run a 1/4mile of 14.9 seconds, which is even quicker and his car is similar spec to mine: N/A 1.6 8v on twin 40's.

So it is possible to create a 1.6 8v Nova that will quite easily beat the 106 and VTS.

Jim

Is that on a straight or on the twistys, coz we all know with out any disrespect, novas have pants handling and pugs are very good!

[Will]

lmfao, try telling the likes of CP that ;) a nova can be made to handle like a mini :lol: :lol:

p.s. BTW who cares? i know i dont

[dan_mk1]

thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

tetley you chat absolute shit, you havnt got a 106 gti, why would you be looking at a corsa sri if you had a gti!? and you mentioned earlier that your mate had a 106 gti and asked if you were able to beat him with the corsa :roll:

smells awfully like a farm in here

on a lighter note, i just gave a cooper s an absolute hammering, bloody good things! superchargers that is! :wink: :lol:

[Jim]

Is that on a straight or on the twistys, coz we all know with out any disrespect, novas have pants handling and pugs are very good!

Thats on the straight, hence the 1/4mile time :roll: :wink:

As for the twisty B roads. I think you under-estimate how well Nova's can handle. Ask Dan or CP or anyone who has a small block Nova with a decent susspension setup how well they can handle.

Jim

[epo]

dan i think it was his sado mate who was buyin the 1.4sri he wanted it 2 race against his mate who had a pug 106 gti

also wudnt dan's gte (admin bouncer) give a vts a gud run 4 its money

[Jim]

also wudnt dan's gte (admin bouncer) give a vts a gud run 4 its money

No. Dan gives M3's a good run for there money ;) Racing a VTS would not be much competition.

Jim

[Snowface]

thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

The 1.3 8v Nova can do 60mph in 8.9 seconds!!!!!!!
Its called the 'SPORT'.

Don't see the 1.4 8v or even 16v Pug doing that even!

[dan_mk1]

this post is completely pointelss now but anyway.......






thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

The 1.3 8v Nova can do 60mph in 8.9 seconds!!!!!!!
Its called the 'SPORT'.

Don't see the 1.4 8v or even 16v Pug doing that even!

the 106 rallye is a 1.3 8 valve, produces 100bhp and revs to summin stoopid like 7200rpm

[Ste_Nova]

this post is completely pointelss now but anyway.......






thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

The 1.3 8v Nova can do 60mph in 8.9 seconds!!!!!!!
Its called the 'SPORT'.

Don't see the 1.4 8v or even 16v Pug doing that even!

the 106 rallye is a 1.3 8 valve, produces 100bhp and revs to summin stoopid like 7200rpm

106 rallye V nova sport

is a good comparison

[scott.parker]

:lol: :lol: Im so glad i started all this cus everyone is really enjoying them self... :D why peps are tallking of vts's i said i beat a vtr,the vts would piss me my car's motor is still a standard 1.6 8v,the only reason i said about it was cos they all think,there nice new cars are the bets and will have everything on the road!! but this aint so..anyway my mates gsi 1.6 8v has the normal sort of mods,dose 0-60 in 6.9-7.0...and well last time he tryed it whent over 143mph!! and dose the pod in 16.5.......so it fairly fast. :) oh and out handles saxo's... :lol:

[badnova]

didnt like the handling of a saxo when i drove it

[dan_mk1]

:lol: :lol: Im so glad i started all this cus everyone is really enjoying them self... :D why peps are tallking of vts's i said i beat a vtr,the vts would p**s me my car's motor is still a standard 1.6 8v,the only reason i said about it was cos they all think,there nice new cars are the bets and will have everything on the road!! but this aint so..anyway my mates gsi 1.6 8v has the normal sort of mods,dose 0-60 in 6.9-7.0...and well last time he tryed it whent over 143mph!! and dose the pod in 16.5.......so it fairly fast. :) oh and out handles saxo's... :lol:

how did he time the 0-60?

1-elephant, 2-elephant, 3-elephant!
:lol:

[Jules]

anyway my mates gsi 1.6 8v has the normal sort of mods, and well last time he tryed it whent over 143mph!!

Joke right?
:roll:

[dan_mk1]

anyway my mates gsi 1.6 8v has the normal sort of mods, and well last time he tryed it whent over 143mph!!

Joke right?
:roll:

well with a 0-60 time of 7 seconds i think thats possible! dont you jules? :roll: :lol:

[Jules]

Only if it's had some major work to both engine and gearbox (Oh and brakes to stop it of course!!)
:o

[Philsutton]

scott.1off sp wrote:
anyway my mates gsi 1.6 8v has the normal sort of mods, and well last time he tryed it whent over 143mph!!


That'll be on those really accurate clocks then.

Plus if a 106 GTI can do a 1/4mile in 16.5 why do people not understand that a 1.4 8v can better with some money spent on it. If its french it will never be any good so why bother, i would never trust anything that the french a hand in making.

[Snowface]

this post is completely pointelss now but anyway.......






thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

The 1.3 8v Nova can do 60mph in 8.9 seconds!!!!!!!
Its called the 'SPORT'.

Don't see the 1.4 8v or even 16v Pug doing that even!

the 106 rallye is a 1.3 8 valve, produces 100bhp and revs to summin stoopid like 7200rpm

yes, even though it produces 100bhp it isn't 'Quicker' then the sport.

After all this topic is about Speed not power.

Sport = 0.60 in 8.9 seconds.
Rallye piece of crap (jok) = 9.3 seconds.

I think that says it all.

[krobinson]

Is that on a straight or on the twistys, coz we all know with out any disrespect, novas have pants handling and pugs are very good!

Thats on the straight, hence the 1/4mile time :roll: :wink:

As for the twisty B roads. I think you under-estimate how well Nova's can handle. Ask Dan or CP or anyone who has a small block Nova with a decent susspension setup how well they can handle.

Jim

My Nova handles like its on rails, i've beaten many a saxo, clio, 106 etc on the twistys, all with bigger engines.

Keith

[scott.parker]

well take a look at the gsi's m cowley..there you can read about whats been done and,the timing on 0-60,by stop watch,so thats why it's give or take a bit but fuck it's well fast trust me... :D And as for the top end well i did say thats what he got last time he tryed,feck know's what it is really doing,but it's faster then another mates astra gte 2.0 16v,and thats had filter zorst and chip!..and he said his digie dash showed 140mph when we passed him..so like i say who knows :)

[Aragorn]

the revlimiter on an unmodified GSi gearbox hits about 130mph

no-one is gonna swap teh box for a WR and the WR would prolly struggle to get to 130 anyway so thats besides the point any other mods would reduce the top end

so how exactly did he get it to 143mph?

get the revlimit upped to 7500rpm and u might get there if your lucky...

just before the bottom end throws a rod

methinks its time for a lock in here

[Ian]

no reason to lock it stays

[locky]

methinks its time for a lock in here

Iv posted my view! :P :wink:

What are the normal mods?
cam/headwork, chip, zorst, filter?
was the gearbox standard?

[scott.parker]

look i already said it's what it said on the clock when we over took the gte,fuck it just a reading not what the car is doing it could be fucking 200 for all i care i was just saying what it did...and allso i said look in the GSI'S under m cowley for his spec.......i suppose that the vtr's are really doing what there speedo's say then??? 140???thats what some peps say there "standard" vtr's do!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[skud52]

theres no way a saxo would be geared to do 140 standard

[dan_mk1]

this post is completely pointelss now but anyway.......






thats cos 1.6 8vs arent as quick as some people like to think ;)

no they arent as quick as some people think, but the VTS and 106 GTI are both 16 valve, and will p*** all over VTR's, GTE's and the like

Ian was actually taking the p**s out of my car Tetley :wink:

A heavily modded 1.6 8v Nova will not be beaten by a standard VTS or 106 Gti, well, the Nova shouldn't be beaten anyway ;)

Jim

What exactly do u call heavily modded Jim?

I just cant see how a 1.6 8v nova could keep up with my 106GTI which will get u to 60 in just over 7 seconds.

U saying this is how quick a heavily modded nova is?

I have smoked so many GTE's, GSI's that its just no fun, its like my mate in his VTR racing a 1.1

The 1.3 8v Nova can do 60mph in 8.9 seconds!!!!!!!
Its called the 'SPORT'.

Don't see the 1.4 8v or even 16v Pug doing that even!

the 106 rallye is a 1.3 8 valve, produces 100bhp and revs to summin stoopid like 7200rpm

yes, even though it produces 100bhp it isn't 'Quicker' then the sport.

After all this topic is about Speed not power.

Sport = 0.60 in 8.9 seconds.
Rallye piece of crap (jok) = 9.3 seconds.

I think that says it all.

they're pretty evenly matched, manufactors 0-60/1/4mile/bhp/lbs p ft etc are normally overated/underated. peugeot always underate their times/figures

[Snowface]

(Carcasm) So i guess vauxhall overrate their times?

The GSi doesn't do 60 in 9.0 and the Pug 106 GTi is even faster than Pug say it is?!

i doubt it. Why have times if they arn't accurate?

[dave.gsi]

is this post still going lol.

i gave up reading it a few pages back now :P

[scott.parker]

i know mate was fun now just pi55ing me off wish i could deleat it! :lol: :lol: :lol: so many ppl just taking the p1ss out of each other,oh and me :cry: ... :lol: :lol: by way hows your car coming allong dave?

[dave.gsi]

errm, its not really lol

it needs 2 new doors and i'm absolutely skint :lol:

i'm looking at buying a new one soon anyway :wink: :D

[dan_mk1]

Why have times if they arn't accurate?

heard of anything called insurance groups?
hence why the sax vts is a higher group than a 106 gti :P

[XZiBiT]

stop posting on here and it will fade away i hope :o

[scott.parker]

lol :lol: so u post on it and go's back up lmao at me now it will again..... :lol: :lol: oh like the windscrean sticker mate! looks mad. :D

[dan_mk1]

im posting till it gets to 20 pages! anyone want an argument?

[Neil.]

Yeah dan, u smell, ur ugly and im gonna whip your ass!

[scott.parker]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: okthen yeah your roling road!! lo whats that all about not much of a whell spin even on ice!lol :lol: lol

[elsey197]

what do you expect for a 1.2 :lol: joking Dan :lol:

[epo]

errm, its not really lol

it needs 2 new doors and i'm absolutely skint :lol:

i'm looking at buying a new one soon anyway :wink: :D

if u get another gsi KEEP THE FCUKING VINYL ON IT :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[scott.parker]

NO I THINK HE SHOULD GIVE THE HOLE CAR A MIRROR FINISH LIKE CHROME! LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Neil.]

like this...

http://www.yorkshirecruise.com/junk/blingmerc.jpg

[scott.parker]

yeah now how fvckin smart is that... he he shamon check the bling bling!.. :lol:

[dan_mk1]

what do you expect for a 1.2 :lol: joking Dan :lol:

what can i say paul? 'lovely' :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: okthen yeah your roling road!! lo whats that all about not much of a whell spin even on ice!lol :lol: lol

go to english class more often


Yeah dan, u smell, ur ugly and im gonna whip your ass!

marks gimp

:lol:

[Neil.]

lol dan, nice come back.

[scott.parker]

oh well i type to fast and couldn't care bout my spelling.."WATCH" fdjgdsgbnlsidufhgesrjgbviludsfhgewrghleuhgrsd ;re gi gjw'etyg w9wty w iwtjy'w thg'wijt iwjrty wt'oyj ojyh tr o4p6y'j tyh'#powrty hwwprjty we'rjtyp oer'pyj etr'hjo owtjy 0-i0 2347#w
eariy ojhh[trw#45yohje97u ojywt 096yu wotrpj ''wtry

wrt y#ow54
yj ]9wt
3w6 4uy0jwtr
[ol wrtpjh 'ij#oj h'powurtoyjwe#oth
wrthpj [ipjty

:lol:

[dan_mk1]

what the fuck is that about!?

[scott.parker]

scott.1off sp wrote:
okthen yeah your roling road!! lo whats that all about not much of a whell
go to english class more often

[dan_mk1]

do you need IT lessons aswell!?

:lol: :wink:

[scott.parker]

yep why you think your a good teacher?

[Gazza14SR]

This tit at my college has just bought a vtr. I never used to talk to him and i dont think i ever will.

He brags about it so much i just wanna smack his face in lol

Near our college theres afew roundabouts joined together, now, he either cant drive (well he is a tit) or saxos handle shite cuz everytime he 'tries' to put some power in the bend hes all over the place, wheels spinnin ere, backend out there its unbelievable!

It is funny though how hes payin it off for the next 5 years and ive got a near 15yr old nova that sticks to the road like glue, i can feel his frustration and embarrisment muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :twisted:

[Jim]

What started out as an intresting topic has now become a load of trash. If you've nothing to say on the topic then dont f*****g reply.

Start a new topic in muppet corner if your bored.

[Philsutton]

i think you should smack his face in, you'll feel so much better for it. What is there to brag about a saxo, oh yeah sorry i forgot they are french therefore they must be amazing :?

[tetley]

slim jim is right, this thread is now out of hand, andit seems to be there are a lot of idiots on this forum. Is slagging saxos all some people do?, im a pug owner and i dont particuly like saxos, but if my mate bought one i wouldnt not talk to him again.

Some people are mad!, ive had a nova and as ive stated before great little first cars, and if u like them great, the GSI's are pretty nippy too. But to say an SR sticks to the corners like glue and the saxo is all over the place well, theres nothing i can say really but b####x. my novas handling was crap, couldnt go round a bend more than 10 mph before going on 2 wheels.

[hendrix]

All my nova's have handled well unless its had standard wheels on. My 1ltr used to handle bad runnin on 155/13 steelies before i put some 185/14 alloys on and it held the road really well (mind you top end was 50 mph :o ). My SRi grips the road really well too and that is runnin on 195/15's. My mates saxo grips pretty well but not as good as the nova. he's just got 2 twin tail pipes for it now. Looks poo!

[Philsutton]

novas do handle like poo as standard but that is simply corrected. I cant see the extra weight the saxo has to throw around helps it in any way when going into corners.

[Ste_Nova]

most standard nova suspesion is fucked

my 10k 1.2i was mint.... my 200k+ 1.0 was a death trap

if you fitted new shocks and springs onto a nova it would be loads better

[~~joycey~~]

my nova handled like a bumper car


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dpnova]

I just fitted new shocks and springs and slightly bigger wheels and it handles 10 times better,

[Gazza14SR]

slim jim is right, this thread is now out of hand, andit seems to be there are a lot of idiots on this forum. Is slagging saxos all some people do?, im a pug owner and i dont particuly like saxos, but if my mate bought one i wouldnt not talk to him again.

Some people are mad!, ive had a nova and as ive stated before great little first cars, and if u like them great, the GSI's are pretty nippy too. But to say an SR sticks to the corners like glue and the saxo is all over the place well, theres nothing i can say really but b####x. my novas handling was crap, couldnt go round a bend more than 10 mph before going on 2 wheels.

FS, As far as im concered my nova handles good and i dont give a toss what you think. Am talkin bollox? whatever! have you driven my car? no so stfu.

And as i stated: 'This tit at my college has just bought a vtr I never used to talk to him and i dont think i ever will.' If you could read it, it doesnt say anywhere that he was my mate.

And as i stated again: 'he either cant drive (well he is a tit) or saxos handle s**t' If you think the saxo handles good then i guess he doesnt know how to drive.

So, are you trying to call me a lier? Have you driven my car? Have you seen him drive? NO.

[Snowface]

Why have times if they arn't accurate?

heard of anything called insurance groups?
hence why the sax vts is a higher group than a 106 gti :P

What's Insurance got to do with inacurate times?!

i don't think insurance groups are based on 0-60 times somehow.
More like on desirability, engine capacity (power) and cost of the car.

Thats why a 1.6 G reg cavalier would cost more to insure than a G reg 1.3sr Nova. The cav 0-60 is 14 seconds whereas the Nova 1.3Sr with the smaller engine does it faster in 12.5.

Cav L 1.6 8v 0-60 = 14.0 Insurance Group = 7
Nova sr 1.3 8v 0-60 = 12.5 Insurance group = 5

Cav is slower but more to insure hence insurance groups arn't based on acceleration times.

[scott.parker]

you tell um mate!....i though this was stupid but really couldent be arssed to reeply to it,oh but you did and made a better point than what i would of.. :lol: .. :D

[dave.gsi]

wow, its started again lol

bets on how many pages till it dies.

i'll go 19

[scott.parker]

:lol: :lol: :lol: ok dave your on!..

[XZiBiT]

18 come on 18 muppet corner looms on this thread

[scott.parker]

well i wish cus it dose my head in now! :lol:
but then you could tell us all about the way how your car kills saxo's.. :D :D

[XZiBiT]

like there metros mate :D and they hate it :twisted:

[ydg27]

aarrhhh, i seee, this thread was good but now poop.
VTS's - WILL BEAT A GODDAMN NOVA GSI (STANDARD)
VTR - WONT :rant:
accept it!

[XZiBiT]

lol this is getting a tad boring some one needs to post some naked pics (of women)

[ydg27]

haha i completely agree!!!

[epo]

All my nova's have handled well unless its had standard wheels on. My 1ltr used to handle bad runnin on 155/13 steelies before i put some 185/14 alloys on and it held the road really well (mind you top end was 50 mph :o ). My SRi grips the road really well too and that is runnin on 195/15's. My mates saxo grips pretty well but not as good as the nova. he's just got 2 twin tail pipes for it now. Looks poo!

whats wrong with twin tail pipe then :lol:

and as 4 u tetley pull ur tounge out of slim jims arse ur not a dog now are u tetley :lol:

[Jules]

All my nova's have handled well unless its had standard wheels on. My 1ltr used to handle bad runnin on 155/13 steelies before i put some 185/14 alloys on and it held the road really well (mind you top end was 50 mph :o ). My SRi grips the road really well too and that is runnin on 195/15's. My mates saxo grips pretty well but not as good as the nova. he's just got 2 twin tail pipes for it now. Looks poo!

whats wrong with twin tail pipe then :lol:

and as 4 u tetley pull ur tounge out of slim jims arse ur not a dog now are u tetley :lol:

So 2 twin tail pipes would be a total of 4 pipes launching out the back? I agree it must look poo!!
:lol:

[epo]

i ment 1 either side like on mine

[tetley]

just thought i would bring this exciting thread back in the picture

[Snowface]

I was keeping up with a Pug 205 GTi this afternoon on the way back from work. I was with a mate and he was on his own. I had a ful tank of fuel aswell. Must have been a 1.6, he'd debadged it all except GTi. Looks like he lowered it loads cause his 5 inch backbox was only 5/6 inches off ground.

Also had Lexus clusters which i'd never seen be4 on a 205.

He was giving it some on the main road up hill and then after a roundabout. Suprised i kept up.

[scott.parker]

please dont..thanks :lol:

[Philsutton]

but their all french :roll:

[Snowface]

i wouldn't ever drove a Pug. I've always drove vaux and will carry on doing so.

[DAN-FRST]

there not that slow i was in my m8s last night racing a 205 mi 16 and he was doing well till about 70 and no novas ever beat him


DAN

[scott.parker]

no nova has ever beat your mates saxo!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i bet he is one of the 140mph standard guys..LMFAO..

[peester]

this post reminds me of a certain 1994 wet wet wet record that stayed far too long at the top of the charts,....lol.

[dan_mk1]

i bet he is one of the 140mph standard guys..LMFAO..

you said your mates standard gsi can do 140, so your just as bad :roll:

[Dpnova]

lmfao

[DAN-FRST]

scott.1off
why have you got to be a tit head was just saying not and were the fook did i say say it would do 140 ??????? you must be a 1.2 boy that dreams of making it to 100 :roll:
and yes before you say my car could do 140 :D

DAN

[Jim]

and as 4 u tetley pull ur tounge out of slim jims arse ur not a dog now are u tetley :lol:

F**k off Epo and keep me out of this. I never asked Tetley to agree/disagree with me. I posted my opinion and it just happened to be of the opinion that Novas are not the only quick hatchback.

[XZiBiT]

calm down boys look at what you started scott!!!! novaload WAR!!

[tetley]

I was keeping up with a Pug 205 GTi this afternoon on the way back from work. I was with a mate and he was on his own. I had a ful tank of fuel aswell. Must have been a 1.6, he'd debadged it all except GTi. Looks like he lowered it loads cause his 5 inch backbox was only 5/6 inches off ground.

Also had Lexus clusters which i'd never seen be4 on a 205.

He was giving it some on the main road up hill and then after a roundabout. Suprised i kept up.

what u considered as giving it some, he probably considered as accelerating slightly in fifth up the hill, even if it was a 1.6 he prob wouldnt lower himslef to race against a puney little 1.3 SR or merrit whatever u wanna call it. Different leagues!

[Ben3042]

Youve started a turf war :lol:

What the fucks that old fiesta doing on your sig?

[DAN-FRST]

ben thats my mrk 2 xr2 wid a erst engine :D


DAN

[dave.gsi]

this post still going strong then??

all i'd like to say on the matter is i got whooped by a VTS in my old gsi. never raced a vtr.

[Snowface]

I was keeping up with a Pug 205 GTi this afternoon on the way back from work. I was with a mate and he was on his own. I had a ful tank of fuel aswell. Must have been a 1.6, he'd debadged it all except GTi. Looks like he lowered it loads cause his 5 inch backbox was only 5/6 inches off ground.

Also had Lexus clusters which i'd never seen be4 on a 205.

He was giving it some on the main road up hill and then after a roundabout. Suprised i kept up.

what u considered as giving it some, he probably considered as accelerating slightly in fifth up the hill, even if it was a 1.6 he prob wouldnt lower himslef to race against a puney little 1.3 SR or merrit whatever u wanna call it. Different leagues!

lol. Firstly my sr/merit isn't puny. It very respectable for its engine capacity.

Secondly how do you explain the black smoke coming out of his zorst when he dropped down a gear?

Thirdly i hate Tetley's it tastes like piss. :twisted: :D

[Jack]

Thirdly i hate Tetley's it tastes like p**s. :twisted: :D


Oooo... now its getting personal!!

[epo]

and as 4 u tetley pull ur tounge out of slim jims arse ur not a dog now are u tetley :lol:

F**k off Epo and keep me out of this. I never asked Tetley to agree/disagree with me. I posted my opinion and it just happened to be of the opinion that Novas are not the only quick hatchback.

wasnt havin a go at u mate
:!:

[scott.parker]

dan_mk1nova....no m8 i said his is modid mine is standard...check what i mean for youe self..

[/quote]
scott.1off
why have you got to be a tit head was just saying not and were the fook did i say say it would do 140 ??????? you must be a 1.2 boy that dreams of making it to 100
and yes before you say my car could do 140

think you need to read from the top my fiesat budy! start on page1.
XZiBiT na i just posted what happend,and that was a long time ago now!!

oh as for 140mph saxos no the xr dude never said it was ur mate that had said this "i was taking the piss in genral out of the d1cks that do!

as for what is going on wiv jim & epo! this has shag all to do with me!!

And as for you xrrst it probly can do 140mph pluss never said it couldnt...did i???

oh and befor any one want's to have a dig at me about this topic..dont bother! i said some pages back i wish it would just fuck off hear now cus there is far to many ppl taking the piss out of each othere!
pluss taking it far to seriously!! it was all just a laugh at the start..now it is well out of hand and there are to many ppl stiring sh1t.... i dont want nothing more to do with this what so ever OK!!!!!

[CP]

By the power of Greyskull I'm locking this thread :lol:

Find something else to argue about :roll: