Corsa 1.4 SRI 16v

[tetley]

i was test driving an L reg SRI corsa the other day i was quite impressed, got airfilter and twin exhaust and i booted it in second, the rev neddle went into the redto about 6300rpm.

Does anyone know what the limiter is on this thing. Also will i keep up with my mates 106 GTI when i purchase it.

PS im using my mates username

[Ojc]

L-reg 16v? You sure it was'nt the 1.4 8v MPi 82bhp model?

It won't keep up with a 106 GTi, the 106 will make you look stupid so don't even bother trying.

[tetley]

Hi Ojc,

Its defo the 16v, theres a badge on the engine, and its in the paperwork. 90BHP, apparantly there were only a few around or something.

so even with the mods he will still walk all over me. The top end in this car is incredible. In fifth at 60 onwards, surely it would keep up with the GTI. Ive been passenger in the GTI fifth at 60 and i didnt think it was that quick.

Cheers mate

[epo]

so even with the mods he will still walk all over me.

what mods mate alls uve said is an airfilter and an exhaust which wont do a massive amount not enough 2 keep up with a 1.6 16v

if u wanna keep up with him then get a corsa gsi

[NOVASH]

my mate had a 106 gti and it would piss on most things!!!
No chance the 0-60 in a standard corsa 16v is 10.5

[dan_mk1]

a 106 gti is in a completely different league mate, the 106 would rip apart a corsa gsi let alone an sri!

[Dpnova]

Let down his tyres then race him on the twisty stuff easy victory :P

[epo]

Let down his tyres then race him on the twisty stuff easy victory :P

:lol:
as for the gsi not keepin up didnt know that thought they'd be pretty close

has the 106 gti got the same engine as the vts?

[dan_mk1]

Let down his tyres then race him on the twisty stuff easy victory :P

106 would still handle better :roll: :lol:

[dan_mk1]

Let down his tyres then race him on the twisty stuff easy victory :P

:lol:
as for the gsi not keepin up didnt know that thought they'd be pretty close

has the 106 gti got the same engine as the vts?

yeah its basically the same car as a vts, just less of a tacky image and less twitchy handling on the limit!

[tetley]

oh, thanks guys for not allowing me to make a fool out of myself!!

i really didnt think there was that much difference.

Going back to my original point though, what is the limiter on the SRi's

red is 6000 to 7000 but as i say i had it to 6300 then got scared!!

i dont care bout the GTi, im gonna enjoy my car, and see a few saxos off!!

[Philsutton]

It won't keep up with a 106 GTi, the 106 will make you look stupid so don't even bother trying.

Its normally me that makes them look stupid, i have a 1.4 8v an i can have them. At the end of the day they are just french.

[dan_mk1]

mate i doubt you would make them look 'stupid'
are these standard 106's??

[Dpnova]

There quite quick from what ive seen of them

[NOVASH]

106 = about 120bhp and weigh nothing...
nova sri = 82 bhp and weigh similar...
corsa sri 16v = 90ish bhp? and weigh more..

Nova sri 0-60 is same as corsa sri 16v due to weight...to power ratio

[Philsutton]

i would imagine they are a standard 106 GTI, i have a fully stripped interior, small 14 inch wheels and 110+ bhp.

[tetley]

yeah, i found out 106 GTI 0-60 is 7.4 seconds

Corsa 10.5, it would smoke me, and as for the 1.4 8v

Well the 106 could probably start in third and still beat it!! :lol:

[Dpnova]

I can see how you would then. Must be great fun killing saxos

[NOVASH]

oi my sri is a 1.4 8v !!! :wink:

[dave.gsi]

i would imagine they are a standard 106 GTI, i have a fully stripped interior, small 14 inch wheels and 110+ bhp.

youd still get whooped lol

[NOVASH]

You said yours is 108bhp at the flywheel mate and 90 at he wheels..
Aint the 106 gti 120bhp at the wheels?

[Philsutton]

maybe they should be able to beat me but havent yet.

[Dpnova]

Probably dont know how to drive them or have regard for them lol. Its like me i beat a skyline in my 1.2, just he wasnt racing :lol:

[tetley]

i bet they werent trying, its impossible for 1.4 8 valve to do 0-60 in less than 7.4 seconds.

As i said he prob was in third or he werent trying

[dan_mk1]

You said yours is 108bhp at the flywheel mate and 90 at he wheels..
Aint the 106 gti 120bhp at the wheels?

after x reg they came with 130bhp
with a decat, pug sprint zaust and air filter gives around 145hp which would keep with a 2ltr nova to 100
:P

[Dpnova]

Dam french making decent engines, add a sunstrip and a max power sticker and were talking 170bhp

[NOVASH]

when figures are given like 120 bhp are these at the flywheel or wheels

[Dpnova]

I thought they gave figures like that as the flywheel, but im not 100%

[dan_mk1]

flywheel

[NOVASH]

so figures in the back of total vauxhall are the at the flywheel? or at the wheels coz they say nova gsi is 98bhp? thought that was at the wheels?

[dan_mk1]

most figures ate quoted at the flywheel unless otherwise stated.
Theres a 15% transmission loss through FWD and 25% through 4WD.

[nova198]

phil i dont know how u can say u have 106 gtis my mates nova gsi gets left by them :?:

[Ste_Nova]

after x reg they came with 130bhp
with a decat, pug sprint zaust and air filter gives around 145hp which would keep with a 2ltr nova to 100
:P

errr no

thats like saying a saxo vts can keep up with a 2.0 16v nova... and i have proved many times they can't

[Ojc]

106 GTi's never came with 130bhp neither did the Saxo VTS its a myth.

[dan_mk1]

after x reg they came with 130bhp
with a decat, pug sprint zaust and air filter gives around 145hp which would keep with a 2ltr nova to 100
:P

errr no

thats like saying a saxo vts can keep up with a 2.0 16v nova... and i have proved many times they can't

lol, so your saying 145hp in a light car
and 150hp in a light car? and you dont think it will keep with it at all??

[peester]

thing is thou mate; how muc hdid you pay for youre corsa? and how much would you expect to pay for 106 gti? the frenchy is alot dearer. bit quicker, bit better handling but you still go loads-o-fun for the lower money in the corsa. big up urself. vaux dealers are cheaper than pug dealers too.

[tetley]

errr no

thats like saying a saxo vts can keep up with a 2.0 16v nova... and i have proved many times they can't[/quote]

whats the 0-60 on ur nova mate

[dan_mk1]

i would guess its around 6.5??

[tetley]

i would guess its around 6.5??

blimey, quicker than a civic type R, and a porche boxster 2.7 then!

[Ste_Nova]

thats like saying a saxo vts can keep up with a 2.0 16v nova... and i have proved many times they can't

lol, so your saying 145hp in a light car
and 150hp in a light car? and you dont think it will keep with it at all??[/quote]

bhp sells cars
torque wins races

[dan_mk1]

what kinda torque has an XE got then? around 130/140??

[Ste_Nova]

dunno... but it will be more than the 106... much more

The official test figures rating the 1.6 litre 16v multipoint injection to produce 120 BHP at a max torque of 107lb ft @ 5200 RPM, 0-62 mph (100kmph) 8.7 secs and a top speed of 127 mph with an average combined fuel consumption of 35.0 miles/gallon.

standard astra 16v 150+bhp, 170+lb ft, 7.4 0-60, 137mph,

[dan_mk1]

dunno... but it will be more than the 106... much more

The official test figures rating the 1.6 litre 16v multipoint injection to produce 120 BHP at a max torque of 107lb ft @ 5200 RPM, 0-62 mph (100kmph) 8.7 secs and a top speed of 127 mph with an average combined fuel consumption of 35.0 miles/gallon.

standard astra 16v 150+bhp, 170+lb ft, 7.4 0-60, 137mph,

thats because peugeot do actual 0-60 tests, ie 2 people, full tank of full etc

ste im just telling you what iv heard from quite a few people on different forums, and theyve said how much difference a decat and air filter makes to the 106 and that they can keep with valver nova's from 0-100 and after that torque comes into play!

[Ste_Nova]

the astra figures are also with 2 peeps and 1/2 tank of fuel..

can we see some 1/4mile times for 106/saxo?

[Ste_Nova]

Engine:
Lightened and balanced crank, rods and pistons :: Pockets machined in pistons for valve clearance :: Head modified including solid lifters :: Piper rally spec 296' cams with vernier pulleys :: Pug Performance fabricated stainless steel 4-2-1 exhaust manifold and system :: Jenvery dynamics 42mm throttle bodies :: EFI technologies Euro 1 fully mappable race-spec ECU and modified wiring loom :: Peugeot Sport Grp A oil breather system and catch tank :: Peugeot sport rallye spec engine mounts all round :: Pug Performance supplied 5 speed dog box :: Peugeot Sport ZF limited Slip Diff :: Peugeot sport uprated ZF driveshafts :: Helix cerametallic sprung paddle clutch and uprated cover plate :: Fully rose jointed Peugeot Sport grp A gear linkages :: Peugeot Sport RHD uprated clutch cable.

Performance:
165 true.. bhp
0-60 6.42 seconds
SS 1/4 mile 14.43 secs @ 98mph
Torque 125ft/lb @ 6'300rpm

[dan_mk1]

got a vid of a guy off cliosport in a sax vts doing a 1/4 in 14.62!
with full ss, decat and air filter!
can anyone host it??

[Dpnova]

cant you post the link to where you got it from

[Ste_Nova]

heres something else that does 14.62 1/4

TRD STAGE III SUPRA TURBO
Price of Modifications (Parts Only) :
Stage I (exhaust system) : $459.95
Stage II (variable boost control) : $569.95
Stage III (fuel maneagement system) : $629.95
ENGINE
Type : In-line six, turbocharged & intercooled
Displacement : 180 ci (2,954 cc)
Horsepower (est) : 330 @ 5,600 rpm
Torque (est. lbs/ft) : 353 @ 4,000 rpm
Max boost : 14 psi
DRIVETRAIN
Transmission type : 4-speed overdrive automatic
PERFORMANCE
0-30 mph : 2.4 sec
0-60 mph : 6.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile : 14.62 sec/96.9 mph
Top speed : 141 mph

[dan_mk1]

spose i could do that :lol:

http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=13&TopicID=61791&PagePosition=0&ThreadPage=1

paste the top link into your browser

[Ste_Nova]

got a vid of a guy off cliosport in a sax vts doing a 1/4 in 14.62!
with full ss, decat and air filter!


Car Stats As Standard
Citroen Saxo
VTS
Year 1997
BHP 120
0-60 7.7
1/4 Mile 16.1

[dan_mk1]

ste youve seen the video, i aint arguing with you anymore.

and that supra is a 4speed automatic? :roll: whats that got to do with anything??

[Ste_Nova]

that vts must have more than zorst and filte

1.4 seconds faster than book time

my mate has a vtr with 75 nos and it does the same time as my 2.0 16v

[dan_mk1]

go on the site and ask if you dont belive me.
the guys name is craggy and that time was run at york

[tetley]

ive lost the plot here a little, what an earth are we arguing about?

A VTS being quicker than a 2 litre nova??

All i know is that a pug 1.1 would have a 2 litre nova round the twistys, am im just being honest! :(

[dan_mk1]

ive lost the plot here a little, what an earth are we arguing about?

A VTS being quicker than a 2 litre nova??

All i know is that a pug 1.1 would have a 2 litre nova round the twistys, am im just being honest! :(

that a slightly mod'd vts could keep with a 2ltr nova to 100! :roll:
and why would a 1.1 pug have a 2ltr nova round the twisties?? if the nova's set up correctly it will destroy a standard 1.1

[Ste_Nova]

ive lost the plot here a little, what an earth are we arguing about?

A VTS being quicker than a 2 litre nova??

All i know is that a pug 1.1 would have a 2 litre nova round the twistys, am im just being honest! :(

that a slightly mod'd vts could keep with a 2ltr nova to 100! :roll:
and why would a 1.1 pug have a 2ltr nova round the twisties?? if the nova's set up correctly it will destroy a standard 1.1

yes but to 100 is basicly a 1/4 and the one you are quoting is doing the 1/4 in 14.6.... i better sell my nova then :lol:

[Dpnova]

what does a standard xe run over 1/4 mile

[Ste_Nova]

standard xe in nova is 14.8-15

[dan_mk1]

which proves my point that a slightly mod'd vts will keep with a standard xe nova to 100!

[Ste_Nova]

lol maybe... but i've driven a vts and it didn't feel fast.. but it might have been the fact i kept clipping the brake cause the pedels are too close together... cause it's a girls car :lol:

[Dpnova]

I agree with what ur saying ste i drove my mates vtr and the pedals are far to close, and its crap :lol:

[dan_mk1]

lol, i kept doing that too! :lol:
as standard they aint anything special, but one with decat etc makes a big difference!

[tetley]

lol maybe... but i've driven a vts and it didn't feel fast.. but it might have been the fact i kept clipping the brake cause the pedels are too close together... cause it's a girls car :lol:

I would consider 0-60 in 7.6 seconds pretty quick personally, and i cant see the 2 litre nova being that much quicker than a standard one.

0-100 is around 22 seconds, 1/4 mile is about 16 secs

[Ste_Nova]

saxo/106 8.7 sec
astra 7.4 sec
nova ??? sec

[Jim]

saxo/106 8.7 sec
astra 7.4 sec
nova ??? sec

:o Ste doesn't know a Nova figure :o

Jim

[Barn]

^^^^ im in shock :o

lol

[Snowface]

and Nova GSi = 100bhp.
Corsa GSI = 109bhp (Early) 106bhp (Aug 1994 onwards).

The Pug 106 1.4XSi is 100bhp standard!

[Aragorn]

the point your not really getting here is a 1.4 with 100bhp vs a 1.6 with 100bhp in similarly weighted cars with similar gearing the 1.6 would win

the 1.6 would have more torque and more power for LONGER

more area under the powergraph etc

same with the 1.6 -> 2.0

a 1.6 8v nova on t40s with 150bhp wouldnt touch a 2.0 16v to 100mph

[Dan]

standard xe in nova is 14.8-15

And i run 14.9 @92mph at standard kerb weight etc which puts me right in that bracket, i only quote 142bhp so aragorn is the valver really gonna kill me to 100mph ???????

i think not :!:

mine pulls as strong in 5th as it does in 4th (can be verified by passengers) so that 8mph isnt gonna make a great deal of difference

[Aragorn]

yup this was pointed out to me but theres one thing u didnt mention - gearing

as i said if both engines had the cr cluster and the stock 3.55FD of the F20 then the 2litre would win and similarly if both engines had the CR cluster and your 4.18FD the 2litre would win

uve said yourself the difference that 4.18fd made and comparing 4.18 to 3.55 aint really fair

its not gonna piss all over you - but it would still win

[Dan]

lol gearing or no gearing, you are comparing a "modified" 1.6 8v against a stock valver. The 4.18 is as common now for speed as forties and all the other "modified" parts are for making 150bhp possible.


a 1.6 8v nova on t40s with 150bhp wouldnt touch a 2.0 16v to 100mph

That was your claim, you did not mention they had to have the same gearing. So your reply really falls on deaf ears unless you are making 2 equal comparisons i.e 2 of the same spec or whatever which you are not in your first part that i replied to

[tetley]

saxo/106 8.7 sec
astra 7.4 sec
nova ??? sec

these are manufactures fisgures for saxo and 106?, proper tested figures are

saxo 7.6
106 7.4 seconds
dont know what astra ur talking about
THe nova cant be sub 6 and will prob fall on its side round a corner,
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[dan_mk1]

i wish i never sold it, it was a lovely little thing, and i loved the fourth gear coz it pulled all the way.

my 106 gti is much quicker obviously but theres something about the nova thats a bit special.

whats the top speed anyones had out of second gear from a nova?

i thought it was your mate who had the 106 gti?

[tetley]

i wish i never sold it, it was a lovely little thing, and i loved the fourth gear coz it pulled all the way.

my 106 gti is much quicker obviously but theres something about the nova thats a bit special.

whats the top speed anyones had out of second gear from a nova?

i thought it was your mate who had the 106 gti?

It is im just stating the facts, im after a corsa, not really a big nova fan, but he loved it.

Hes beaten loads of GTE novas, bit unfair to compare them really, hes never raced a two litre though. I rekon he would have 1 round the twistys though. im still gonna try and race him with my new corsa, cant be a great deal of difference. His is compltey standard.

[dan_mk1]

ok, you race, he'll tear you a new arshole! :lol:

[tetley]

ok, you race, he'll tear you a new arshole! :lol:

How much difference will the filter i have (i think its a K&N) and my twin exhaust make?

The chap at the garage said it probably adds about 10BHP making it 100BHP. Is this correct and would i be wrong in assuming 0-60 could then be in the high 8's (8.5 to 9), or am i hoping too much!! :?

[dan_mk1]

the k+n will make next to no difference, and if its just a backbox it'll make no difference at all! it will just make you think it as its louder!

[tetley]

thanks for the advice, can u get filters that will increase the BHP?

[dave.gsi]

most filters increase bhp. its such a small amount though (5bhp max) you wont notice a differnce

[tetley]

right, so my 0-60 will prob only increase from 10.5 secs to about 10 then max, with the exhasut and filter.

[dan_mk1]

why are you so obsessed with 0-60!?
and no its not gonna make that much difference!

[SKoob]

that twin exhaust has probably lost power :lol:

[tetley]

still cain ur SR sunshine

[bfuller]

FAO Tetley..........







Your Thick.

[peester]

bottom line in all this unfortunatley is if you want a fast car.....
....buy a fast car. mods are only meant to 'boost' or 'enhance'.

[tetley]

FAO Tetley..........







Your Thick.

My thick what?

If you meant to say you're thick then why?, a 1.4 corsa SRI would wip a 1.3 SR nova full stop. :lol:

[bfuller]

a 1.4 corsa SRI would wip a 1.3 SR nova full stop.

Who fcuking cares?

stupid fool.

almost everyone who has expressed an opinion on this post probably knows more about what makes cars go fast than you.

either respect that, or go and renew your max power subscription.

[tetley]

a 1.4 corsa SRI would wip a 1.3 SR nova full stop.

Who fcuking cares?

stupid fool.

almost everyone who has expressed an opinion on this post probably knows more about what makes cars go fast than you.

either respect that, or go and renew your max power subscription.

they probably do, i wouldnt of raised the question in the first place otherwise would i.

I simply wanted to know how much difference thre would be in acceleration with the filter and exhaust

and i dont like max power

[bfuller]

I simply wanted to know how much difference thre would be in acceleration with the filter and exhaust

Why the smartiepants act then?

exhausts and air filters on novas do not make a huge difference, if any at all

[tetley]

ok lets leave it at that then, my question is now answered

[dan_mk1]

shut up the both of ya! arguing like little bitches :roll: :lol:

[tetley]

Ssssssssssssssss Lee the serpent

[totalnova]

oi leave max power alone the mag aint that bad but there is hardly any novas in it but sum day my nova fun will change all that lol :lol:

[epo]

oi leave max power alone the mag aint that bad but there is hardly any novas in it but sum day my nova fun will change all that lol :lol:

max powers shite id be more impressed if u had it in total vaux :!:

[tetley]

max power is brill all those babes and cool people in it.

Its the best mag ever, i have every edition since i started collecting in january 2001.

DONT DISS IT! :evil:

[Ojc]

Oh dear :rolleyes:

[Fester]

hmmm 2001 is actually when Max Power started going downhill in a BIG way!

Got some 1990's issues here and some of them are pretty good - why cant someone make a magazine like these old ones now?

[Ste_Nova]

yup i got max from 1994 (a16vtb cover feature) to 2000.... now it's shit

[Jules]

Out of a collection spanning back to issue 2 to about mid last year I kept about a two dozen or so (Only cos they featured decent Novas / Vauxhall / Mates cars) and threw the rest out, some of the early ones are probably worth something but I couldn't find anyone that wanted them so I chucked them in a recycling bin at the local Sainsburys supermarket along with almost a compete Redline collection, A 100% complete Revs collection and a expansive Fast Car collection - Load of shite now, it's just a way for youngsters to buy adult mags without the embarresment of having to reach for the top shelf.

Total Vauxhall and that's it for me (Saving a surprising amount of money now aswell as a result).

[epo]

Total Vauxhall and that's it for me (Saving a surprising amount of money now aswell as a result).

same here altho i dont think revs is as bad as the others its deffo got worse tho