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Will
23-12-03, 05:40 PM
GSI, SR 1.2

are they all the same? just want to know im pretty sure they are just checking gsi isnt bigger, i think TD is different but mainly i want to know if GSI and 1200 are the same

Will

LiD0N
23-12-03, 06:11 PM
think the gsi/gte one is bigger

toughy
23-12-03, 07:17 PM
there are three sizes of nova rad
d/td being the biggest
then the gte/gsi and mk1 1.4
and the smaller 1.0 and 1.2 rad

Mark
23-12-03, 10:59 PM
I maybe wrong but I think the connections on the diesel rad are on the opposide sides...

Snowface
23-12-03, 11:34 PM
so the GSI/GTE radiator fits 1 1.2 does it? Since putting in a 1300 in my 1200 i have noticed the temp has gone up and having higher compression doesn't help.

Doesn't go over 1/4 on gauge but still could be cooler as i havn't really tried sitting in traffic.

What sorta price is a new rad? I guess u can get them from Parto etc or is it a Vaux job?

Stuart
23-12-03, 11:36 PM
your temp should go up to half lol

get a new thermostat

Will
24-12-03, 09:51 AM
GSI one is bigger, but the 1200 one will fit in a GSI yes its smaller but i dont care, at least the 1200 spare one i have hasnt got a huge hole in it, pmsl.....

just confirming, its only 2 clips and as the hole they go in is the same on all novas they shud all fit. the difference in size i cant imagine being an issue???

Will

Mark
24-12-03, 09:53 AM
Will, if you want to be pedantic, you asked if they were the same, not would they fit!

No they are not the same and YES they will fit, except the Diesel Rad!

Merry Christmas

Will
24-12-03, 09:58 AM
:P

i did want to know if they were the same, then i found out from helpful ppl like yourself they are not, so now i want to know if the smaller one will fit which again you say yes so i am happy and boxing day ill be having fun swapping them allthough it seems very easy just annoying! lol

Merry chrimbo mark :D

Mark
24-12-03, 10:02 AM
:lol: - Ok. :D


How did you manage to get a hole in it?

Dicko
24-12-03, 10:47 AM
the gsi rad is more than enough even for a 20xe conversion.

using the TD rad is possible but not worth the hassle of plumbing the long pipes.

rgv_stu
24-12-03, 11:26 AM
early 1200/1300/ gte/gsi rads are the same (large)

later 1200/1300/1400 rads are the same (smaller on stilts)

Ste_Nova
24-12-03, 11:40 AM
the gsi rad is more than enough even for a 20xe conversion.
.

pref a new valeo one.. and not a cheap pattern one...

Will
24-12-03, 11:45 AM
soooooo

early 1200 (1989)

into a late GSI (1993) shell

smal;ler on stilts? :? seems a bit weird, lol oh well....

A confused Will

Dicko
24-12-03, 11:52 AM
doesnt take much :P

Will
24-12-03, 12:58 PM
:| :|

elsey197
24-12-03, 01:26 PM
take the gsi one out and put it next to the 1.2 one and see if there is any difference :P

Bilbo ballbaggins
24-12-03, 01:55 PM
will the 1.2 rad be ok with a 20xe??

Ste_Nova
24-12-03, 03:09 PM
mine was ok with a 1.2i stilted rad... but when standing for ages in traffic with the heaters off then it would overheat eventually.. i'll be fitting a valeo rad when it goes back together

_JH_
24-12-03, 04:37 PM
there are three sizes of nova rad
d/td being the biggest
then the gte/gsi and mk1 1.4
and the smaller 1.0 and 1.2 rad

1.0 and 1.2 are different. some 1.2 ohv astra mk1 rads will fit the nova 1.0 but thats it. i've put a 1.2 rad from an '88 nova in a '87 1.0 but it took some fiddling

Bilbo ballbaggins
24-12-03, 06:00 PM
i'll be fitting a valeo rad when it goes back together

whats the difference with a 'veleo' rad?? and where 'd u get one??

Snowface
24-12-03, 06:31 PM
your temp should go up to half lol

get a new thermostat

I used the same 1200 head on my 1300 so the thermostat hasn't changed. So temp increase must be true.

mc_hawkings
31-12-03, 12:13 AM
oh dear no-ones mentioned the 1.2 fan wont fit in to the lower cross member due to larger radiator :lol:

Will
31-12-03, 12:29 AM
this has been done now with pro bodging skills of me and matt

1.2 rad and 1.6 fan are being used, 1.2 fan wud fit its jus the plug was different for the wiring so we made the 1600 fan fit, prob solved, no leak, works fine :D

Will
31-12-03, 12:31 AM
oh dear no-ones mentioned the 1.2 fan wont fit in to the lower cross member due to larger radiator :lol:

what do you mean neway?

1.2 fan is smaller than 1.6

1.2 rad is smaller than 1.6 by 4 inches in length........ how the hell wudnt the 1.2 fit cause of larger rad the 1200 fan is smaller its just the wiring plugs are different so rather than pissing abt we made 1600 fan fit

mc_hawkings
31-12-03, 12:36 AM
yer i meant the 1.2 fan is smaller than the 1.6 fan so wont fit properly onto the 1.6 rad will only bolt in at the top.

only saying

mikeoxford
31-12-03, 12:43 AM
i actually found when i had my radiator escapades this winter, that i bought a 1.6 gsi rad, thinkin yeah itll go straight in, of course it did and everything was fine, hoses wires etc, even filled damn thing with antifreeze to find the actual bracket for the fan at the bottom was diffrent on the rad. for some reason the fan bracket in the middle of the rad at the bottom seemed difrent on the 1.4sr rad.

i managed to fit a 1.2 and also 1.6 fan to this 1.6 rad i had bought, but had this really random fan and mounting on the 1.4

moral of the story, buy the parts for what the car was originally. (i know in some cases that isnt strictly true :lol: )

Barn
31-12-03, 02:13 AM
your temp should go up to half lol

get a new thermostat
lol, my temp gauge don't move nor does my fuel gauge for that matter