Rallying Help

[rally_slag]

I've been told about LET engine being the fastest and best engine performance wise, which you can get for your Nova.

I do rallying and am going in with th big power next season, so I want to order some C20LET engines. However I have a few problems:

1)What is the engine code for these?
2)What litre are these and these are the turbo ones aren't they?
3)I've heard alot about doing a 4.0 Twin turbo Nova. Are these easy to do? ie. 2 LET engines.

I would love to show them others that a Nova is still in there, so please help.

[rgv_stu]

:lol:

[rgv_stu]

:lol:

[chappers1.3]

ur god damn crazy! twin engined machine would be quality though!

is it road or stage rallyin your doin?

[Atic]

Theres a Boost beast with 2 x 2.0l engine.

You can start lookin here for a 2.0l
Nova 2.0l (http://www.mathijssentechnics.nl/?pagina=pagina.asp&sub_menu_id=7000&item=2.0L%20Conversion&title=2.0L%20Conversion&page_link=7000&result_id=7000&taal=2&PHPSESSID=8bfd8d9b312f1777b35cf8c4c9e5691c)

Conversion parts (http://www.mathijssentechnics.nl/?pagina=pagina.asp&item=Conversion%20kitsCorsa%20A&title=Conversion%20kits%20Corsa%20A&result_id=7100&sub_menu_id=1&auto_type=D&item=Conversion%20kits&taal=2)

[Atic]

Refering to the boost beast.
http://www.boost-beast.de/technik/technik-01.jpg
http://www.boost-beast.de/technik/technik-02.jpg
http://www.boost-beast.de/technik/technik-03.jpg

[dan_mk1]

:lol: joker

[BigRuss]

Sorry mate but You'll never be able to rally it!!

Vauxhall never made a turbocharged nova so You will never get it RACMSA logbooked, with one engine never mind two.

You don't even see many nova's rallying with 2.0l 16v's in them as they do not handle/turn in as way too heavy in the front end. If You want a seriously quick Nova rally car spend money tuning a 1600 16v engine up to say 190-195bhp, this would then be a giant killer 8)

[Mark]

Bugger! Russ said it all - don't be silly - have you even looked at a rule book??

[Jim]

LMFAO, but apparently, he "does Rallying", so he must be right? :roll: :lol:

Jim

[dan_mk1]

maybe he plays colin mcrae? or maybe he just drives through some woods when its raining?? :roll: :lol:

[safetycages]

In answer to the ORIGINAL question, the engine code for the C20LET you asked for is C20LET surprisingly enough. How many were you thinking of ordering anyway? i have 17 in my garage. lmao

[Atic]

Maybe someone else would also need one of those!
P.M. with conditions dont forget im from PORTUGAL

In my contry i know someone has a 2.0l, 4wd nova doin 1st place when rallyin.

[James1]

A 2l 16v nova cannot be that hard to handle and I have seen one rallying up on The Isle of mull the past couple of years looks an awersome beast. I think that he is right you would not be able to fit to engines into a nova as it would never homolagated.

[novashed]

wot do ya reckon james, put a 2ltr in the beast and thrash it round some forests & windy northern hills

[m.d.]

Sorry mate but You'll never be able to rally it!!

Vauxhall never made a turbocharged nova so You will never get it RACMSA logbooked, with one engine never mind two.

so how come they rally v8 mk 1 escorts then. you will just be in a special class

[James1]

I have never seen V8 Mk1 escorts being rallied. i think you might be right paul use it in some forest and then he might rap it round a tree and think about someting clever to build like a 1.6 rally car. I have spoken to a few people and to build a 2l 16v nova rally car will cost upwards of 25k and that with 1 engine

[rallyslag]

Not posted here for a while, but this one got me motivated, plus this dude has copied my name!!

"rally_slag" i'm not sure if you know what you're on about, rallying a LET nova would be pointless as you would be in the same class as imprezas and evos etc and would get beaten all the time due to your lack of grip, esp. on gravel!! :lol:

Russ, think you're wrong there, it will be possible to get it logbooked, there are a few hybrids about e.g. Andy Burtons 306 cossy.
Homologation is not an issue anyway as the nove went out of homologation ages ago.

i know of a few tarmac rallying 2L novas kicking about and doing quite well, in fact there is one due in at Motorsport Direct i think.

phew, that'll do me for a while!!

[James1]

I had forgotten about Andy Burtons 306(don't know how i could do that with such a monster). I have seen a few 2l nova and they do look good but i would say that if you want to keep it stable then you would need a wide track kit and that is maybe not an expense that you want if your rallying. I would say use a 1.6 at least then you will be with cars you can beat

[BigRuss]

Right here goes, I will try not to upset too many of You, the facts as I know them are:

I started rallying in a mental Mini with a 200bhp 2.0l 16v vauxhall engine in it, monster up the straights crap on the bends! We were regularly beaten by pukka 1300 Nova's :o 2.0l 16v Nova's are the same fly up the straights crap on the bends. Now this Mini was logbooked by a senior MSA scrutineer as this is what You need to do if the original max capacity of the car is multiplied by more than 1.5 ie 1275cc x 1.5 = 1912.5cc. the very max capacity permissable to rally/racmsa logbook in this country is something like 3900cc normally aspirated or 2000cc turbocharged.

On the rallying scene You will come across a few Fiesta Cosworths, these are all rear wheel drive. This is because Ford did produce a turbo charged fiesta but it was only 2wd!! You can not rally a 4wd fiesta Cosworth (Shame!!) as ford never produced a 4wd fiesta.

Therefore a V8 escort is allowed to rally as it is still 2wd and under 3900cc. A 2wd or 4wd Turbocharged Nova would not be allowed in rallying as Vauxhall never produced either. Mind You could rally a tdi nova believe it or not :o But who would want to?

Now for the complicated bit, Andy Burton's car is actually called a Peugeot 306R4, Yes it is a Hybrid which means the rules can be bent slightly. It is based on a 6R4 not a peugeot 306, it is normally aspirated mind not turbocharged. I have personally owned a Darrian with a 2.4 Millington Diamond series engine which I/we rallied here and abroad, now as this is a kit car and not a production car the rules differ slightly again as I could have put a turbocharged engine in that and rallied it they were simply listed as being able to run any engine in the companies write up. Again to the previously listed cc maximum's.

I hope this clears up any questions/quotes

Thanks.

[James1]

anyway back to the subject. it really depends on whether it was going to be used on tarmac or gravel. I would say on gravel there would be no point because on the lack of grip. I suppose on tarmac it could be quite fun but i would probably put a 1.6 in you will probably find it will be more fun and you should do better.

[CP]

Apart from all the afore mentioned points I would imagine ( I claim at this point to know nowt about the finer points of rallying :lol: ) that a LET would be in bits by the end of the first stage. A cossie/imprezza/evo engine they aint :roll: :lol: