View Full Version : wot would the last ever nova shell made
not stamped or anything would be worth completely bare never touched just as was the day it was made
peester
15-11-03, 06:36 PM
had to read question a couple of times to understand what you meant. so is this 'last ever' shell for sale or something? at an auction it could make quite a bit. but if just for sale ad somewhere then its first come first served. get an offer in. or are you asking something else?
no just a friend has it in a lock up in ireland and we were wondering wot it would be worth now seeings as ya cant get certain things anymore
Nova-Flair
15-11-03, 07:04 PM
a lot! put it that way.
u just cant get good shells n e more. there are few and far between. especially up here n e way
How did he end up with a brand new shell thats never been on the road?
Its worthless unless it has all the required documents.
Rick Draper
15-11-03, 07:12 PM
If its never been on the road and is genuine its worth a mint.
Rick
he bought it to build a nova sport has all relevent documents as far as i know and has been in touch with vaux and dvla and is planning on bringing it out on a 55 plate
Stanton
15-11-03, 07:13 PM
isnt there a rule when you reshell a car as long as a certain percentage of the finished car is from another car with history, the new car can assume the donors identity?
Nova-Flair
15-11-03, 07:15 PM
would be quality having a 55 plate nova would be worth a mint
yeh there is but if you get everything new from vaux which you can for most the only thing that doesnt have to be is the engine which can be a reconditioned one you csn bring it out on a brand new palte a chap did it on an escort cossie and put it on a x plate x2 cos was the number plate on it
Ste_Nova
15-11-03, 07:19 PM
all shells are stamped
if it's not stamped or the shell has no id then it will go on a Q
Ste_Nova
15-11-03, 07:22 PM
isnt there a rule when you reshell a car as long as a certain percentage of the finished car is from another car with history, the new car can assume the donors identity?
yes... but the shell has to be unregistered... eg a bare new shell... then you write the new shells identy onto the v5 and send it off
it probably is stamped i would of thought it would be anyway i might of misunderstood wot he meant by not being stamped but i know it has never been on the road or outside his lockup ever still looks like the day he bought it and it really is the last ever shell made
And they only issue Q's to cars where they cant find the identity eg: ground out etc.
Every shell gets stamped in the factory even if not built into a car, so if it has no Chassis number by the drivers seat would be suspicious.
just phoned him and asked him and yes it does have that
dave.gsi
15-11-03, 07:52 PM
whats he doing with it? building it or selling it?
i dont reckon he will sell it but we just wanted to know wot it would be worth but i expect if the right offer came along he would sell it
Ste_Nova
15-11-03, 08:03 PM
get the first bit of the vin and we can see what it is on the epc....
why does it have to be the last shell made??
all the final shells were shipped to a dealer in NI back in 1996
thats where the shell is NI and i have now jsut found out the shell is not stamped
just phoned him and asked him and yes it does have that
have now jsut found out the shell is not stamped
Make your mind up?
If it isnt stamped i would be vary wary.
peester
15-11-03, 11:15 PM
wicked; 'a car that doesn't exist.' (in the style of 'micheal knight..a man that doesn't exist.')
Slap some Minkdom bumpers on it, LED washers, a dozen 8" exhausts, spray it bright green, fit some F&F style graphics, huge alloy spoiler, fill everyhole in every bumper / skirt / wing / door with some stainless mesh, get a "Art n Motion" sticker made for the front screen, shove at least 10 subs in the boot, oh and don;t forget to fit a 1.2 engine with a K&N Filter and a EcoTek valve - Then advertise in Max Pooer for ?3500 and you're onto a winner!!
:lol:
(Seriously if you do ANY of the above we'll all come and witch hunt you and burn you at the stake!!)
:twisted:
right the shell was bought in 1996 from the guy who bought the last 50 shells of which 20 went to spain and 20 to luton and the last 10 stayed in NI so that was 7 yrs ago and this has never been touched and it wont be getting any neon washer jets kingdom bumpers it is going to be built as a nova sport and used as a concourse car only but i did see a pic of it last night showing the panel by where the drivers door should be and it has no stamps on and have also seen the receipt for when he purchased it for 875+vat
Ste_Nova
16-11-03, 09:36 PM
he will need a full nova sport to then if he wants to use the sports id
also the shell has giveaways to it's age...
eg door check straps weld or bolt on
resesed vin plates
etc etc
if you have a pic then post it?
krobinson
16-11-03, 09:56 PM
The last shell's went to fintona autospares near omagh here in NI. They said the last ever shell they sold went to a guy in england, not sure where exactly. But he phoned up, then next day came over on the boat with a trailer and collected it.
As for the last shell ever made? theres no way of ever knowing that really. But as for the last to be sold from fintona, it isnt.
I also met a guy last week who reshelled his 1.3SR with a new shell from fintona in 1997. He's selling it now for ?500.
Keith
the pics of the shell are not digital pics so cant get em up i will get someone to scan them along with the reciept for the shell i was pretty sure he bought it in 1996 might of been 98 but the receipt is from fintona auto spares oh and by the way he used to own a nova sport which he crashed but kept all parts that were usuable ie interior and engine, wheels etc but it will be a new car it will not take another cars id hence the reason it will be on a new plate as i said in a post earlier on this topic this is possible because escort cossies were never made on an x plate so how did he do it but all i really wanted from this post was wot would it be worth i mean how many bare brand new shells(never touched) do you think are left in the country/world it should be worth a mint so the chances are this could probably be the last shell left
Also if you wanted to register it on a 55 plate (in 2005?) it would have to meet current emission standards for a newly registered car.
Good luck with that one cause evena late Nova GSi engine wouldnt do that now with current EC4 emission regs.
Ste_Nova
17-11-03, 11:02 AM
The last shell's went to fintona autospares near omagh here in NI. They said the last ever shell they sold went to a guy in england, not sure where exactly. But he phoned up, then next day came over on the boat with a trailer and collected it.
it's a yellow 2.0 16v turbo... ex mag featured... it's a shed now afaik
Nova-Flair
17-11-03, 11:12 AM
techie has a point.........
would probably only get a Q plate or an old nova reg
a2lt16v
17-11-03, 11:28 AM
i will buy it off him get some pics is it completely bare no panels or anything it would make great race car or may be banger racer would be really strong
Nova-Flair
17-11-03, 12:20 PM
bollocks to that. rather make it into a show/concours one. a rust free shell is a nova owners dream!
Rick Draper
17-11-03, 01:02 PM
i will buy it off him get some pics is it completely bare no panels or anything it would make great race car or may be banger racer would be really strong
Judging by the look of your car yours would be my first choice for a banger racing shell, cud they not find a colour match for the top half? :roll: Rick
The last shell's went to fintona autospares near omagh here in NI. They said the last ever shell they sold went to a guy in england, not sure where exactly. But he phoned up, then next day came over on the boat with a trailer and collected it.
it's a yellow 2.0 16v turbo... ex mag featured... it's a shed now afaik
Oh god I think I know the one you mean - you sure it's yellow and not a more greeny colour? Q plate?
Ste_Nova
17-11-03, 02:03 PM
The last shell's went to fintona autospares near omagh here in NI. They said the last ever shell they sold went to a guy in england, not sure where exactly. But he phoned up, then next day came over on the boat with a trailer and collected it.
it's a yellow 2.0 16v turbo... ex mag featured... it's a shed now afaik
Oh god I think I know the one you mean - you sure it's yellow and not a more greeny colour? Q plate?
thats the one... think it's a ford colour
a2lt16v
17-11-03, 02:09 PM
it was the bottom half they couldn't find a match for. the last nova i saw banger racing fell apart as it was to rusty hence a really strong one would be ideal. would he take 1000 for it. seam weld the entire shell like they do to the btcc cars and she would be super strong. maybe banger racingis a bit harsh maybe stock hatch. but if its strong enough it can be used again and again
The last shell's went to fintona autospares near omagh here in NI. They said the last ever shell they sold went to a guy in england, not sure where exactly. But he phoned up, then next day came over on the boat with a trailer and collected it.
it's a yellow 2.0 16v turbo... ex mag featured... it's a shed now afaik
Oh god I think I know the one you mean - you sure it's yellow and not a more greeny colour? Q plate?
thats the one... think it's a ford colour
Fooking waste of a good shell imo...........
:evil:
Ste_Nova
17-11-03, 02:14 PM
The last shell's went to fintona autospares near omagh here in NI. They said the last ever shell they sold went to a guy in england, not sure where exactly. But he phoned up, then next day came over on the boat with a trailer and collected it.
it's a yellow 2.0 16v turbo... ex mag featured... it's a shed now afaik
Oh god I think I know the one you mean - you sure it's yellow and not a more greeny colour? Q plate?
thats the one... think it's a ford colour
Fooking waste of a good shell imo...........
:evil:
why? it was mint when it was first done
Ste_Nova
17-11-03, 02:14 PM
it was the bottom half they couldn't find a match for. the last nova i saw banger racing fell apart as it was to rusty
so start with a non rusty one.... i used to have no probs banger racing saloons
a2lt16v
17-11-03, 02:21 PM
it was the bottom half they couldn't find a match for. the last nova i saw banger racing fell apart as it was to rusty
so start with a non rusty one.... i used to have no probs banger racing saloons
well that shell would be a none rusty one wouldn't it .all novas have rust on them somewhere no matter how tidy they look. with an exception of a few concourse one. look in any mag feature you can see rust lurking on them somewhere. you fix a bit but while your fixing that another part is going.
Ste_Nova
17-11-03, 02:26 PM
yeh so u just over spec it.... few plates etc.. no big hassle
a2lt16v
17-11-03, 02:31 PM
right im gonna stop now but i do want that shell for race car or something. this post has had far to many replies in the space of about 2 hours for my liking and now its going off track get back to the price of the shell
Ste_Nova
17-11-03, 02:33 PM
right im gonna stop now but i do want that shell for race car or something.
finish your own car before u mess up another :lol:
a2lt16v
17-11-03, 02:39 PM
cant be bothered to finsh that one bored of it. seen a tidy 1 litre on auto trader 3500 miles apparently probably not true. it ?1750. some one posted it on here today. just bought vauxhall shove it (chevette) might try and do something silly with that
it's a yellow 2.0 16v turbo... ex mag featured... it's a shed now afaik
Correct, on all counts. Shame really.
http://www.gre.ac.uk/~jb812/totb2/Q522.jpg
krobinson
17-11-03, 08:13 PM
Is that the last shell from fintona then?
I remember looking round that at trax 2002, didnt look like a shed to me?
Keith
novacabrio
17-11-03, 08:21 PM
This is belived to be the second last ever shell, to a lot of people it is the last one. The last one that ive heard about belonged to a lad called andy from hartlepool. The 2 door saloon in total vauxhall. A lad who worked at vauxhall on the docks at teesport found it on a dealer search. Was a miss build! How many 2 door saloons do you find with a factory fit sun roof? Not just any sunroof, a tilt and slide! jon shield's nova turbo was also one of the last but was a van converted not a hatch! Think this is correct unless you know other wise? This shell in qustion will go on a q plate, it will not of been given any id so that it can be reshelled, I would recomend he speaks to the dvla for advice first but in ireland it wont go on a 55 plate any way as its on a daft yearless plate
krobinson
17-11-03, 08:30 PM
Fintona autospares also has alot of cavalier shell's left. About 6-7 SRI shell's, a 2wd GSI shell, and a 4wd GSI shell!
For such a small place, its amazing the stuff that lays around it. Pity nova shell's cant be got anymore :|
Keith
http://www.gre.ac.uk/~jb812/totb2/Q522.jpg
Eurgh!! Get it away from me!!!
:?
beatin u
17-11-03, 09:23 PM
there was a thread on Mig a couple of months ago with a company that makes nova shells, im trying to find a link..........
beatin u
17-11-03, 09:43 PM
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69828&highlight=simpson
oops no nova shells :evil: :?
jesus this posts gone mad since yesterday yes the shell is in ireland at the moment but wil be built over here in england and as i have already said about the escort cossie which has all original panels and other things and is on an X plate cossies were not made on an X plate and if i do remember rightly the cossie was stopped being made becasue of the exhaust emissions but this bloke has built one and the dvla went over it with a fine tooth comb and found that he had a refurbed steering rack so it failed so he bought a brand new one low and behold it passed the tests and out it came on an X plate so really there is no reason why my mate shouldnt be able to build a brand new nova sport fromt he shell he has he has all of the parts to build it engine interior etc etc he jsut needs new panels for it and few other bits next tiem he is round mine i will get him to post on here and argue it if ya like
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69828&highlight=simpson
oops no nova shells :evil: :?
LMAO!! The post RE. "Simpsons shells" was posted by Ste of NL fame!!
:lol:
Bloody Q Plate or 55 Plate what does the plate matter FFS???
If it's genuine and it's a MINT shell then what difference does a plate make???
As to price then it'll be worth a couple of grand to the right person
Rick Draper
17-11-03, 11:44 PM
I thought i had read somewhere John Shields nova turbo (A16 VTB) was built from a GTE shell with no sunroof and he decided he wanted a sunroof so he cut the roof skin off and fitted a skin from a nova with a tilt and slide sunroof.
Also that citrus yellow one has a rotten front chassis leg and apparently its not just surface rot its totally fuckod. Still wanted ?7k for it on trader though! :roll: :roll: Rick
Ste_Nova
18-11-03, 09:29 AM
it was built from an L reg D van rick... i have the max feature and png mags with it in
roof came from his old car D58? a 1.3sr as did a lot of the parts... check the etch on the rear windows when you see the car next
I thought i had read somewhere John Shields nova turbo (A16 VTB) was built from a GTE shell with no sunroof and he decided he wanted a sunroof so he cut the roof skin off and fitted a skin from a nova with a tilt and slide sunroof.
Also that citrus yellow one has a rotten front chassis leg and apparently its not just surface rot its totally fuckod. Still wanted ?7k for it on trader though! :roll: :roll: Rick
It was a bit manky, I'd be more worried at the rot underneath it - bad chassis legs in the bay means really bad ones underneath lol.
Mike got just under 7k from what I heard - I have to say, I loved the car and it 5hat all over a chums Rouse 204r Saph cossie on the way to Trax last year...
I must admit, I didn't realise Jon Shields old Nova was made up of those parts - how much did that go for last time it was sold?? Jeez.
krobinson
18-11-03, 02:51 PM
New mk2 Astra shell.. hmmm.. interesting!!
I think my next car mite now be a re-shell'd mk2 16v GTE :D
someone said a i bit back there that every Nova shell has rust in some area. this maybe the case with U.K cars but i have said a number of times over the last 2 years on here that in Ireland we do not use salt on the roads and the last two Novas i built were with a 1992 and a 1993 shell 100% rust free. and not a single plate covering a hole either. I have explained this a lot in the past and have also talked to Ben about how its a perfect option to use an Irish shell to reshell a rusty SR/GSi etc. And i don't want to hear all the crap about thicker steel in a GSi shell etc :lol: a splotless 1L or 1.2L shell is perfect. the wide arch Nova is now a class 10 winning rally car and the green GSi now has a swift GTi engine in it. links to the cars as they were are below.
Back to the main topic i was on to That crowd up north 2 years ago when i heard about the new shells and they were all gone. that one in the shed up north is worth quite a bit.
There was still new saloon nova shells up there a year ago or so
Ncole
The cossie was a 3 door SIERRA, not an escort. It was built from new parts including a newly-purchased shell. (still available from Ford Motorsport!)
It allegedly has it's engine radically de-tuned to pass the emissions test for the MOT once a year. It is the "holy grail" of Cosworths. Kinda like finding an Unregistered 1993 GSI nova fitted with a 2.016v LET from the factory with full dealersport suspension and engine strengthening, option cage and........ well, you get the idea!
The x-reg cossie would NOT pass current new car emissions, it was built and registered as late as possible before new emission testing began.
Hence a nova sport with twin 40's has got FUCKS CHANCE of being registered new. Unless you fitted a Corsa multi point injection engine for the registration and subsequent MOT's!!
Even the C20XE engine was fased out cos of emmissions!!!
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