1.4 or 1.6 16v

[Biaggi]

At the mo i have a mrk 2 1.2 spi nova, im lookin to swap engines around new year time and thinkin of either a 1.4 16v or 1.6 16v but not sure wat yet can any one give me some info and figures ? I was thinkin of the 1.4 16v cos cheap on tax and insurance but im not 100% at the mo, ill b wantin to tune the engine and get about 130bhp+ so would i be best goin for the 1.6 ???? cheers for any help

[Ben]

Can tune both reasonably easy to get 130bhp.

Depends, your talking about cheap tax, thats the least of your worries if you want to tune it heavily.

The 1400 is a little more unusual and will get you more intrest.

If i was to do another i think i would go for a 1400.

[Biaggi]

yea thats y i was thinkin the 1.4 16v cos ive not seen many used not the tax as such its mr. insurance man :evil:

[geordie_racer]

well the internals on the 1.4 are good for up 2 150bhp so theres your limit for reasonably priced tuning before u need uprated pistons/arp colts etc. if you're not lookin for more than 150bhp then go for the 1.4 if you're lookng for more then go for the 1.6 which has been proven to produce 180bhp without a turbo

its really about balancing up what ur looking for from your new engine as both are very tuneable

chris

[Biaggi]

well the car will b stripped out next week when my seats arrive and i think about 140 id b happy with, so probs go for the 1.4

[Jim]

Depends what mods you are thinking of and how much you want to spend.

One of the most powerful 1.4 16v Novas belongs to a couple of guys who come on Novaload. The Engine produces around 160BHP, but the engine cost thousands to get it to produce that kind of power.

The cars specifications can be found here...

http://www.novaload.net/features/viewfeature.php?ref=1113

Take a look and see what they have achieved from the 1.4 16v engine, but like I said it cost thousands.

For a more respectable sum of around ?2000. You could probably get a 1.4 16v to produce around 120BHP by going with Twin webbers as apposed to throttle bodies.

At the end of the day you need to really plan out what you can afford. Dont think an exhaust and air filter will get you up to 140bhp.

Jim

[Biaggi]

Love that nova im plannin to do as much to the engine as i can wanna go the whole hog but cheers for all ur help. Wat would i need to change i know looms gear box ecu fuel pump any thing else ??????

[Ste_Nova]

wales?

[locky]

Biaggi,
North, south, mid?????

[Biaggi]

South wales i hale from Locky im on sw-cc under the same nick name

[locky]

Thought i recognised the name :wink:

[Ben]

the 1.6 which has been proven to produce 180bhp without a turbo

208BHP

[Dicko]

the 1.6 which has been proven to produce 180bhp without a turbo

208BHP

240bhp :roll:

[Will]

how old are you?

1.4 16v insurance group 6

1.6 16v insurance group 11

do the maths

p.s. your going to spending enough either way to get the most so unless your under 20 insurance shudnt really be an issue and as for tax :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: pmsl @ ?50 saving a year thats nothing, 2 tanks of fuel or a good night out, lmfao ;)

[Ste_Nova]

lol my 2.0 16v still gets cheap tax :lol:

[Will]

oh yes of course the tax shudnt be an issue anyway ;););)

[Biaggi]

Dont give a shit about the tax im only 19 and payin 1100 now for the 1.2

[Ben]

1.6 16v insurance group 11

How you work that out?

Nova GSi's are group 11 but Corsa GSi's are group 10, not that means what insurance group his would be anyhow.

[Jim]

Dont give a s**t about the tax im only 19 and payin 1100 now for the 1.2

Your only 19 :o :roll:

Jim

[Will]

a lot of companys take the group of the engine actually and ben we are both right cause it depends on the doner car as follows

Derivative Year Model Insurance Grp

1.6 16V Sport 3dr Hatchback Corsa (1993-00) 10

Corsa 1.6i GSi 16v 3d Hatchback Corsa (1993-00) 11



hehehe :P

[Ben]

Swines have increased the GSi as i looked into about 2 years ago and it was definately group 10.

[geordie_racer]

oh and for the record th 1.6 16v has made 280 bhp without a turbo i just made a typo earlier but it did cost a few beer tokens so i wonder what the max power could be with a turbo? think 300+ but the lag would be a pain in the arse

chris

[Ben]

I wouldnt want a 300BHP turbo ona 1.6, anything near 250bhp on a NA engine would romp it anyhow.

[geordie_racer]

hell i wouldnt want 300bhp either dont even want to think about the traction problems, chewed driveshafts etc. was just statin it for the record. im buildin a turbo 1.6 16v and im only wanting it to be 170bhp ish as after all the nova is a small car which will perform well with a decent amount of power anything above 200bhp and problems start coming with traction

chris