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Will
06-10-03, 07:30 PM
sorry but it has to be said, your car is mint :P

:D tis my fav nova :oops: i was going round the bugger at PV2003 looking for faults (sorry) BUTTTTT i cudnt find one, please tell me there is 1 little thing on it karl and ill sleep happy, pmsl, its cleaner than it would have come out the factory!

will

Jim
06-10-03, 07:34 PM
Shouldnt this have been done via pm William? Or did you want to show everyone your love for Mr. Rowntree, lol :lol: :wink: :P

It is a mint car though :)

Jim

NovaNeil
06-10-03, 07:35 PM
I agree!! Awesome car! I especially like the bonnet bulge! Very original.
Well done Karl, looks like a lot of hard work has gone into your car.

Stuart
06-10-03, 07:36 PM
Will does seem to be sending out a lot of man love at the mo, is sammy not giving it to ya?

Will
06-10-03, 07:38 PM
no pm as i wanted to voice my opinion, pmsl @ cambridge, fook off.

p.s. 1st place winner st pcc must have really been sumthing special, was it chromed underneath, lmfao

karl Rowntree
06-10-03, 07:47 PM
:lol: as long as your not my stalker!

No seriously mate, thanks for the compliment. Took alot of effort to build it last year so glad to get peoples opions. You tend to look at your own car in different eyes to everyone else!

I can spot quite a few bits im not happy with, so going to do another couple of track days in it this year then strip it the end of november.

Planning 230 bhp for the engine, decent gearbox and having the underneath sprayed the same as the rest of the car.

Will keep you posted, few bits more i want to keep under my hat! It all depends on the money this winter though, going to buy a cav in january so cant go to mad anymore.

karl Rowntree
06-10-03, 07:49 PM
P.S. I have said it before aswell but stuarts car that won the PCC day really was amazing. The guy deserved to win and has inspired me to do more to mine when i said i wasnt going to!

Cant wait to see his next year! :)

Ste_Nova
06-10-03, 08:00 PM
p.s. 1st place winner st pcc must have really been sumthing special, was it chromed underneath, lmfao

lol it's not even painted underneath :P

dave.gsi
06-10-03, 10:23 PM
any1 have a picture?

mikeoxford
07-10-03, 10:52 AM
u live by me apprently carl?

whereabouts in brum are you? pm me if you dont wanna disclose this kinda information :lol:

Dare-devil
07-10-03, 11:00 AM
yeah.! get some pics up m8.. :wink:

Breeny
07-10-03, 11:19 AM
Pics courtesy of the stalker himself..

http://www.breeny.co.uk/billing2003%20087.jpg

http://www.breeny.co.uk/billing2003%20089.jpg

and some from Andy Bishop

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.bishop30/PCC/DSCF0001.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.bishop30/PCC/DSCF0015.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.bishop30/PCC/DSCF0016.JPG

dave.gsi
07-10-03, 11:22 AM
its bloody clean.

wouldn't say its the best nova ever though. still nice like :wink:

Will
07-10-03, 11:23 AM
tis one of my favs :P :D :D

wisewood
07-10-03, 12:05 PM
does look very nice.
very nice indeed, although may benefit from colour coding.

then again, maybe that would ruin it.

Dare-devil
07-10-03, 01:47 PM
AWESOME.!! :D

Ben
07-10-03, 05:32 PM
The grey suits it much better than colour coding would, same as Simons old Nova. Wich was close to the same build quality as Karl's.

Karl's is not typically my thing but anyone has to admire the quality and effort gone into it, and after meeting Karl and talking to him he is probably the most humble person with it.

Have always heard everyone rave on about it in the same kind of catergory as Bretts etc and i would rather Karls seven days a week.

Will be good to see how some of the things over the winter get reaction next season.

karl Rowntree
07-10-03, 06:31 PM
Far from the best, i am the first to admit that mate. So many amazing cars being built at the mo, next year will see quite a few come out of hiding. Inspires me to keep changing mine every year!

Keep an eye out for andys bishops. I took a week off work last week to get started on it, going to take alot of time on that one!

Chose not to colour code the bumpers, allways think it looks a bit much on a red car, but do like it on every other colour :D Personally i think less is more, and like do things that most people dont notice. i.e relocating the fuel cap. Hopefully do a bit more of that kind of thing over the winter.

Cheers for the words ben, was good to meet you again at the national day. Still trying to make my mind up if i like the lights :?

P.S car looks orange in those pics andy!

Ben
07-10-03, 06:37 PM
Cheers for the words ben, was good to meet you again at the national day. Still trying to make my mind up if i like the lights :?

lol "Been after a set for years"

At least they are easily replaced if you dont like them, i think your idea for the extra hole was a great one.

karl Rowntree
07-10-03, 07:08 PM
i really annoy myself sometimes mate! looked for a set for ages, and when ive got them not sure if i like them. Dont no why, i love them on everyone elses cars! Going to restore them no matter what (new lights etc) if i dont put them on the car might hang them over the fire place! lol expensive ornament.

mikeoxford
07-10-03, 09:10 PM
will im going to make you dead jealous by telling you karl is within walking distance from my place :lol:

mikeoxford
07-10-03, 09:12 PM
will im going to make you dead jealous by telling you karl is within walking distance from my place :lol:

krobinson
07-10-03, 09:19 PM
Karl's car certainly is very clean, very tidy and very shiny!

I'm quite looking forward to next year, hopefully get over to more show's. And i hope that i'll see more Nova's than i did this year.

Also hope i can have mine finished. I walked out of my job on sunday night because its been making me quite depressed and stressed out for various reasons. So hopefully another job will come along soon to help fund the car!

I dont think it will be to the same build quality as Karls. But it will be along the lines of Mark Beeson's.

Keith

mikeoxford
07-10-03, 09:26 PM
good look keith.

Jules
07-10-03, 09:32 PM
Gott ajust say a quick cheers to Andy Bish for taking the pics at PCC Nationals and also to Breeny for supplying the links, got some damn good hi-res photos there, some of them make for excellent desktops!!!
:wink:

techie
07-10-03, 09:45 PM
Just look out for my old Nova next year.

The guy who bought it has got some plans for her ;)

MattyWoo
07-10-03, 10:08 PM
You always have plans yourself though ross!!! very secret and cunning plans :lol: :P (so secret and cunning i dont know)

Has it gone yet mate??

karl Rowntree
07-10-03, 10:19 PM
Get yourself over here kieth! Hope all goes ok for you mate

Looking forward to seeing the car mate! especially that engine bay!

techie
07-10-03, 10:25 PM
You always have plans yourself though ross!!! very secret and cunning plans :lol: :P (so secret and cunning i dont know)

Has it gone yet mate??

Yeah the Nova is long gone.

And there are lots of plans, but mainly Czech related ;)

krobinson
07-10-03, 10:36 PM
Get yourself over here kieth! Hope all goes ok for you mate

Looking forward to seeing the car mate! especially that engine bay!

Thanks karl.. I'll be over in a few years with a bit of experience and more qualifications to help..

Cant wait to see how the bay looks either! With the ickle 1.3 sitting in it.. Oh well, at least its much better than the 1.2i that used to sit there!

Should be out next year, if a job comes along..lol

Keith

simon@novaheaven
08-10-03, 03:47 PM
The grey suits it much better than colour coding would, same as Simons old Nova. Wich was close to the same build quality as Karl's.


The first time i saw Karls car i was unlucky enough to park next to it at his meet. I thought my nova was pretty good until that day. Karls car made mine look like a brown coloured shitter!! The quality and finish on that car is superb!

Jim
08-10-03, 04:13 PM
Karls car made mine look like a brown coloured s**t!! The quality and finish on that car is superb!

LOL Sy, don't be so hard on yourself. Yes Karls car is mint, but I wouldn't go so far as to say yours looks like a brown coloured s**t. It looked pretty impressive in the Flesh at PV03. Still a shame that you sold it :(

Jim

Ben
08-10-03, 04:32 PM
i think Simon is quite pleased he sold with the water pump going a week later.

andybishop
08-10-03, 04:37 PM
Keep an eye out for andys bishops. I took a week off work last week to get started on it, going to take alot of time on that one!.

Damn rights it's going to take some time!! Everythings coming together now though, just need the time to work on it now!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.bishop30/nova-turbo/images/26thsept43.JPG

Jules, It's my pleasure taking the pics on PCC National Day, had nothing else to do other than clean and tire shine karls tires for him.....

simon@novaheaven
08-10-03, 04:39 PM
Next to Karls Bright Red beast my 15 yr old carmine red paint looks pretty cack! On its own it looked ok.

Id have loved for that to happen, the engine was still under dealer warrenty :D so if the engine broke id have got another new one.

My car was ok, i probably saw load of problems and things wrong that no one picked up on.

I do regret selling it alot. :oops:

karl Rowntree
09-10-03, 06:35 PM
Si, your car was mint mate! Wish my standard paintwork was as good as yours!

Wish you hadnt sold it mate, but i hear you have a bit of a beast now! look forward to seeing it. Hope the lad who bought it looks after it like you did mate.

Andy, that car hasnt moved since i left! get busy monkey man. :D

Jules
09-10-03, 08:40 PM
Damn rights it's going to take some time!! Everythings coming together now though, just need the time to work on it now!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.bishop30/nova-turbo/images/26thsept43.JPG

Jules, It's my pleasure taking the pics on PCC National Day, had nothing else to do other than clean and tire shine karls tires for him.....

LOL @ Mandy Richardson from Hollyoaks old tailgate (I presume?)
:lol: :roll:

Jim
09-10-03, 08:57 PM
LOL @ Mandy Richardson from Hollyoaks old tailgate (I presume?) :lol: :roll:

LOL, I couldnt even tell there was a colour change from my monitor at work. I must adjust my brightness settings :)

Jim

simon@novaheaven
09-10-03, 09:23 PM
Oh yeah my new car is a real beast. its currently stripped in my garage waiting for me to get cracking. Ill defo go for a turbo engine in it at some point in the near future i think.

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/1003/SimonKa/100-0028_IMG.jpg

Im not too sure how the new owner is looking after it although i think he inherited the bad luck i had with the car. After less than a week it was broken into, after that the water pump went then on his way home from a cruise someone ran into the back of him causing damage to the rear bumper which he was quoted 300+ to have fixed.

Andy hows your car coming along. Is that a recent pic of it?

Ste_Nova
09-10-03, 09:43 PM
Keep an eye out for andys bishops. I took a week off work last week to get started on it, going to take alot of time on that one!.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.bishop30/nova-turbo/images/26thsept43.JPG


:o look at the rot in that rear pannel


i'd better post a progress pic of mine :)

http://www.novaload.net/forums/album_see.php?id=2149

Derwin
09-10-03, 10:36 PM
Hi Sy,

Im trying my hardest to look after that car, Ive deffo got your bad luck! It just seems to want to commit suicide every 5 mins.

Driveshaft Oil Seals have split, along with the gear selector seal :(

The exhaust has started blowing where you said it might as well. Still, it will all be sorted next week.

Its staying off the road now for the winter :p

Any chance you can post me the reciepts, its been a while, oh and the redio removal keys, as they were not in the box. Cheers.

Breeny
09-10-03, 10:43 PM
LOL @ Mandy Richardson from Hollyoaks old tailgate (I presume?)

I have her towing eye cover and rear grab handle! lol!

Ian_Gsi16v
10-10-03, 12:13 AM
LOL @ Mandy Richardson from Hollyoaks old tailgate (I presume?)


I have her towing eye cover and rear grab handle! lol!


I had her drivers door

simon@novaheaven
10-10-03, 09:39 AM
Gutted for you derwin :( Glad you trying your best to look after it :D I was never happy with the exhaust joint. Bit of a bodge by the garage, easily sorted though :)

Ive pm'd about the reciepts.

I had Holyoaks bits for the nova i built. Door locks, fuel filler pipe, rear door cards and maybe some other bits too. ;) cheers andy!

andybishop
10-10-03, 09:57 AM
:o look at the rot in that rear pannel



That's right ste it is rusty, that's why i have a brand new rear panel ready to go on it! If you look through my site you'll see that behind the front turrets and inner wings are rusty, this is all being replaced along with the front panel. The car's only at it stripped down stage at the moment, replacement of the panel will happen soon and it will look better!

It is the tailgate off Mandy's Nova, as mine was absolutley knackered around the window seal... Shame I had to break that car cause of it's history, but the chassis leg was twisted and the roof was kinked under all the filler. Sounds as though the parts from it were useful to a few people though!!

Jim
10-10-03, 10:08 AM
I had her drivers door

I had her :lol: I wish!!!!! LOL :lol:

Andy, ignore Ste, he's always looking for faults on peoples cars :roll:

Jim

Will
10-10-03, 10:09 AM
:D

andy ignore ste he just picks holes in thing i dont know y, lmfao

neway:

hollyoaks nova, tell us more:

did u ring channel 4 abt buying it etc? how much did u get it for........

was it bodged by channel 4 or previous owner to that, doh @ filler and twisted chassis leg :(

simon@novaheaven
10-10-03, 10:25 AM
I had her drivers door

I had her :lol: I wish!!!!! LOL :lol:

Andy, ignore Ste, he's always looking for faults on peoples cars :roll:

Jim

Went to school with her, bit big headed after she got into holyoaks :roll:

andybishop
10-10-03, 10:41 AM
Yeah I know about ste and his comments :wink: , just stating that i know about the rust and that it's all being sorted :lol:

I was after another nova to reshell into, saw this silk violet nova in the trader for ?600, as i was on the phone to the bloke i realised what car it was, noticed it was for sale by brookside production and could see tony's volvo and the escort rally car in the background of the pic. Went up had a look at it and it seemed ok, so brought it for ?500 to either use or if not suitable to break it, bloke also give me the engine out of the GTE they rolled down the hill and a few other bits. It was in a bump before Hollyoaks had brought it, Started stripping it down and realised how badly damaged and repaired it was...
So i stripped and sold the bits.

Jim
10-10-03, 11:05 AM
Went to school with her, bit big headed after she got into holyoaks :roll:

I wouldn't give her the opportunity to say much ;)

So many nice women on holyoaks at the moment...One of many programs that can be enjoyed with or without sound, lol.

Jim

simon@novaheaven
10-10-03, 11:37 AM
click HERE (http://www.retrospectdesign.co.uk/test/hollyoaks/) to enjoy holyoaks without all the naff storyline then!

CP
10-10-03, 11:48 AM
Very very nice quality car - and it goes on track - as it should be! Respect 8)

Ste_Nova
10-10-03, 11:59 AM
Yeah I know about ste and his comments :wink: , just stating that i know about the rust and that it's all being sorted :lol:

.

it was more of a shock comment... i thought your car was mint

andybishop
10-10-03, 01:57 PM
I know ste, that's why i was'nt too harsh with the reply... The bodywork on it was mint, but a dodgy repair to the rear panel before I had the car let the water in a made it rust!! Same with the front end, the person who fitted the engine orginally, did a crap job of welding, engine bay's been sealed badly and water got in!! Years of driving it in all weathers have taken there toll on it, That's why i've taken it off the road to do it all properly this time!!

Ste_Nova
10-10-03, 04:18 PM
ooooh i detect another show use only nova :lol:

u painting the underneath andy? :wink:

Ian
10-10-03, 06:46 PM
yes paint the underneath so you can show off to kwik fit mechanics :P

Mark
10-10-03, 06:51 PM
:lol:

Ste_Nova
10-10-03, 08:55 PM
yes paint the underneath so you can show off to kwik fit mechanics :P

lol would rather show it them than bats grease monkeys

andybishop
10-10-03, 10:08 PM
Yeah it's hopefully going to be painted underneath too... would only get done in the future, so it might as well be done now!!

Ste_Nova
11-10-03, 10:01 AM
lol ian looks like u are gonna be the odd one out with no painted underneath :lol:

krobinson
13-10-03, 03:13 PM
I WAS gonna paint the underneath of mine, but i couldnt be bothered stripping the underseal off!

Then when the car was finished, i met a guy who sandblasts lorrie chassies, and he said he could have sandblasted the floor etc and left it all like new!

DAMN!

Keith

Ste_Nova
13-10-03, 03:21 PM
Then when the car was finished, i met a guy who sandblasts lorrie chassies, and he said he could have sandblasted the floor etc and left it all like new!

DAMN!

Keith

i was tempted to blast mine.... don't bother... it would remove all the factory fitted zinc coating

Ian
13-10-03, 07:16 PM
dont see the point in painting underneath only going to get stonechipped if you drive it properly

krobinson
13-10-03, 07:22 PM
Then when the car was finished, i met a guy who sandblasts lorrie chassies, and he said he could have sandblasted the floor etc and left it all like new!

DAMN!

Keith

i was tempted to blast mine.... don't bother... it would remove all the factory fitted zinc coating

The factory fitted zinc coating didnt help the majority of the nova's out there!! lol

Keith

karl Rowntree
13-10-03, 07:55 PM
Same as the top though ian! Track days, motorways and decent paintwork dont match.

Even if it only lasts 5 minutes, least it gives me something to do over the winter! :D

Removes a fair bit of weight aswell, was suprised the first race car i did how much the underseal weighed. Aslong as you dont pile the paint on after can be a good weight saver.

Ste_Nova
14-10-03, 10:21 AM
The factory fitted zinc coating didnt help the majority of the nova's out there!! lol

Keith

yeh it did... no rot in the floor of mine except where it zinc coating had been broken due to scrapes and jacking

RJM25R
15-10-03, 09:09 AM
So who's gonna be first to have the floor chrome plated!!LOL :twisted: