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novarally
25-04-17, 06:30 PM
Who has done this on their Nova, and what do they think of it?

I'm contemplating changing my Nova to it as I'm unhappy with the quality of the change on the hillclimb car. And I can't afford a sequential 'box :(

Thanks
8valve-craig
25-04-17, 08:05 PM
Watching with interest. Sick and tired of mine too.

Theres a chap on here with a CAE shifter but don't think he's ever used it in anger
prs
25-04-17, 10:32 PM
go with the CAE shifter ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6PjXzHEPuk
novarally
25-04-17, 11:18 PM
Watching with interest. Sick and tired of mine too.

Theres a chap on here with a CAE shifter but don't think he's ever used it in anger

The CAE kit looks nice, but it's a lot of money. The price of that plus what I could sell my current gearbox for wouldn't be that far away from the cost of a Quaife 32G sequential (secondhand).

Someone must have done the Vecta cable conversion?
RallyMarshal
26-04-17, 07:25 AM
I have..

Works fantastically well on a standard or SCCR box but isnt quite right on a dog box. Its been tweaked over time to evolve into its current format.

Ive used an M32 / M20 Astra Mk5 gear shift lever (6 speed but reverse in the right place) as its slightly shorter throw. Modified the cable attachment points to use rose joints on the cable ends.
Standard Vectra C 1.8 F17 cable shift turret - modified the cable attachment points to use rose joints on the cable ends.
Custom length cables with m6 threaded ends and rosejoints (mine were done by Cable-Tec)
Modified gearbox bracket on an F16 / F18 casing
Custom gear shift bracket to raise it all right up and get the cable ends correctly done.

Various photos in my build thread

Paul..
novarally
26-04-17, 08:53 AM
Thanks Paul, that's the sort of information I was after. My 'box is SCCR, so that sounds good.

I'll have a look at your build thread as soon as I can.
Benn
26-04-17, 12:42 PM
go with the CAE shifter ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6PjXzHEPuk

Christ that moves. Ball's of steel.
toymex
27-04-17, 03:57 PM
Got to say last time out with a new Quaife shifter the change was spot on ,just too quick for the synchros. Saying this it has taken a bit of time and some tweaking to get to this
8valve-craig
27-04-17, 04:04 PM
Mine goes up the gears like clockwork, its getting it to come down again that is the problem.
toymex
27-04-17, 04:14 PM
Mine goes up the gears like clockwork, its getting it to come down again that is the problem.
Are you sure something isn't moving on weight transfer that is making it difficult, I found that the helicopter joint was touching the turret very slightly occasionally which was causing a problem which was amplified by very slight movement of the box,I have solid/ updated mounts too!
8valve-craig
27-04-17, 04:40 PM
Are you sure something isn't moving on weight transfer that is making it difficult, I found that the helicopter joint was touching the turret very slightly occasionally which was causing a problem which was amplified by very slight movement of the box,I have solid/ updated mounts too!

It was, so i made new engine mounts. It's 10 times better now but still an issue. The engine / gearbox doesn't move at all.
toymex
27-04-17, 04:50 PM
I also found that the bush in the turret wears quickly allowing slight movement
C20 YOB
16-05-17, 10:43 AM
I did a how to guide on this a while back. Can supply cables if need be to....
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211964

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novarally
17-05-17, 12:22 PM
I did a how to guide on this a while back. Can supply cables if need be to....
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211964

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Many thanks for that, I managed to miss your article before.

Any chance you could drop me an e-mail please as there's a few bits I'd like to discuss. Thanks;

colinesmith@aol.com
BRoadGhost
17-05-17, 04:58 PM
You can get a different design of turret shifter that'll go straight onto the box top & if you're not on an F20 casing the O.E cable bracket can be rewelded for a near perfect route.

I've just done a conversion at the turret end to rose joints; I have had a standard end bushing pop off when shifting in anger, meaning it can't happen again & less slop. That said even as it was the setup can easily beat synchros. Very precise & IMO a CAE probably not needed.
Benn
20-05-17, 12:02 PM
Broad, any photos of yours?
boffer8
30-05-17, 03:32 PM
How is yours routed colin?

Mine is quite direct as it goes over the rack and down to the turret. I don't have any shift issues with when using mine aggressively on a hillclimb and must say i'm yet to beat the synchros....

Ryan Brassington is doing the conversion at the minute with Vectra parts so will be interested to see what he says using the std vectra parts throughout.
novarally
16-06-17, 08:04 PM
How is yours routed colin?

Mine is quite direct as it goes over the rack and down to the turret. I don't have any shift issues with when using mine aggressively on a hillclimb and must say i'm yet to beat the synchros....

Ryan Brassington is doing the conversion at the minute with Vectra parts so will be interested to see what he says using the std vectra parts throughout.

I've picked up all the bits from a Vectra C with F17 gearbox and cable change.

It's all been mocked up on the floor to a spare F10 box, and seems to work really nicely. I'll post up a few photos soon.
novarally
16-06-17, 08:54 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/hillclimbescort/IMG_1948_zpsubjxkqxw.jpg (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/hillclimbescort/media/IMG_1948_zpsubjxkqxw.jpg.html)

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/hillclimbescort/IMG_1949_zpseifacvmu.jpg (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/hillclimbescort/media/IMG_1949_zpseifacvmu.jpg.html)
Benn
17-06-17, 09:22 AM
Looks good. I do really like the idea of this on mine.
boffer8
20-06-17, 11:33 AM
Have you considered getting a CAE shifter instead of the weak long throw vauxhall one? expensive but make a massive difference and id say better than the quaife set up.

Someone has put one in a nova already....
novarally
20-06-17, 01:06 PM
Have you considered getting a CAE shifter instead of the weak long throw vauxhall one? expensive but make a massive difference and id say better than the quaife set up.

Someone has put one in a nova already....

Ben - considered and dismissed. The CAE looks nice but it's £1200.
8valve-craig
20-06-17, 01:55 PM
Not sure weather this is the place for it, but my shift problem was going down the box at high speed, High RPM.

Since fitting a big breather to the top of the turret it has been fine.
marcel
20-06-17, 09:18 PM
It's very important that you have all parts from one car. If not, so you can get problems by the shifting and you must modify your holder for the cable.

I used the cable gear change some years with a quaife gearbox and it works fine.

some f13 housing have the holes for the screws of the cable holder. so you can mount it very easy on it.
novarally
20-06-17, 09:24 PM
It's very important that you have all parts from one car. If not, so you can get problems by the shifting and you must modify your holder for the cable.

I used the cable gear change some years with a quaife gearbox and it works fine.

some f13 housing have the holes for the screws of the cable holder. so you can mount it very easy on it.

Thanks Marcel. Have you got any pictures you could post of the cable shift on your Nova? Thanks.