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therealnovaboy
31-01-15, 08:54 PM
Are x14xe and x16xe sumps the same size?

I suppose the easiest way to check would be to see if both engines require the same amount of oil. However i dont have a haynes handy.

could someone please let me know.

thanks.

vauxluva
31-01-15, 09:04 PM
I cannot see any reason Vauxhall would change it they are identical blocks...if it was me i would be on ebay for a cheep haynes. 8v for me

therealnovaboy
31-01-15, 09:49 PM
You would think that but the z18xe and z16xe have different size sumps as does the 1.3 and 1.6 8v sumps. im just not sure where the change over is if the 1.4s are different.

I have a haynes, just not handy.

8v for me too but the xe sumps are way better.

vauxluva
31-01-15, 10:26 PM
Are the 8v Items that bad ?,i have not really had any probs. mk4 astra 1.6 8v bottom end 1.6 8v head mk2 astra inlet and carb. could be new pump on block tbf

therealnovaboy
01-02-15, 01:10 AM
Are the 8v Items that bad ?,i have not really had any probs. mk4 astra 1.6 8v bottom end 1.6 8v head mk2 astra inlet and carb. could be new pump on block tbf

16V alloy one only has one gasket and the windage tray is integral to the sump. the gasket is better and is fully baffeled as standard. It also doesnt rust. The only good thing about the steel one is the you can gain acces to the back of the fly wheel without taking of the sump, which is handy for marking TDC/BTDC ect and locking the engine to stop it turning.

therealnovaboy
02-02-15, 07:21 PM
Can anyone tell me if the 14se and 16se novas hold the same volume of oil??

rbnova
02-02-15, 10:45 PM
Does the alloy 16v fit the 8v engine? Do you just lose access to clutch cover plate?

therealnovaboy
02-02-15, 11:10 PM
Does the alloy 16v fit the 8v engine? Do you just lose access to clutch cover plate?

yes but 1800 16v ones dont fit.Im still trying to work out if the 14xe fits a 16se. you dont loose access to the clutch just the back of the flywheel. you also need the right pick up pipe for the sump.