Another one for the scrap collection :-/

[bazil]

So after selling one of the best novas I've ever owned back in may I decided to buy another project to sit beside my other projects ( maybe one day I'll get one built )

If anyone knows details on running gear and setup from this let me know, it would help me save some time in building it back up.

So far I know it was XE onto a T9 box with english axle, im thinking a RS2000 one piece prop was probably used but wondered if it needs shortened?

Front end was likely capri uprights with insets with coilover conversion rather than the fixed mk1/2 escort stuff, mk2 escort steering rack and column with green TRE's to suit the different threads and most likely I'll be using adjustable bottom arms etc.

Panel wise in not doing much, just throwing on the crap i have lying around for now.
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/PhotoGrid_1416469663373_zpsseeen2jy.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/PhotoGrid_1416469663373_zpsseeen2jy.jpg.html)

[Southie]

Ah so you bought it, have you pm Austin as he originally built it.

[bazil]

Ah so you bought it, have you pm Austin as he originally built it.

Glutton for punishment ain't I lol

What's his user name on here?

[Southie]

He's not been on here for a while but you never know lol
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/member.php?3074-Austin_Nova16

[Southie]

What your plans for it then?

[bazil]

Thanks for that chief,

XE on throttle bodies and omex/dta and a lsd in the axle, just for fun and trackdays etc, will be making it legal for the road too

One of tge things im needing to know is if a rwd exhaust manifold from the xe into a mk2 escort would fit or if the one Austin used was a custom made job

[bazzap8389]

This will be a great build. Pull your finger out on this one bud :)

[turbojolt]

bloody hell this should be a fun project..seen that photo bouncing around the internet for ages didn't realise it was in the uk

[bazil]

This will be a great build. Pull your finger out on this one bud :)

Sport first mate then this ;)


bloody hell this should be a fun project..seen that photo bouncing around the internet for ages didn't realise it was in the uk

I'll post up the pics i have of it :)

[Southie]

Some old pics of it in here:
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Austin/library/rwd%20nova?sort=3&page=1

and here
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?66610-RWD-Nova

[bazil]

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/Austin4SP0ct05_zps4fkrzb1h.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/Austin4SP0ct05_zps4fkrzb1h.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/Austin5SP0ct05_zpsxj4qcvl6.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/Austin5SP0ct05_zpsxj4qcvl6.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/IMG_0168_zpsv0mzea3c.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/IMG_0168_zpsv0mzea3c.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/austin6_zpssbsiekqd.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/austin6_zpssbsiekqd.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/20140913_151708_zpsdjjp8shg.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/20140913_151708_zpsdjjp8shg.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/20140913_151725_zpstec0jynb.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/20140913_151725_zpstec0jynb.jpg.html)

[8valve-craig]

This was on a farm I visited in East Sussex about a year ago, I was tempted to buy it then myself. Heard it handled like crap, but sooo cool it hardly matters.

[bazil]

This was on a farm I visited in East Sussex about a year ago, I was tempted to buy it then myself. Heard it handled like crap, but sooo cool it hardly matters.

Yeah I was talking to sturge about it, he says it was very tail happy lol, but with modern day setup equipment and machining it should be easy to sort it out a bit better, iirc it was built about 12-14 years ago!

Besides this is just for fun so tail happy is precisely what I want

[turbojolt]

rosemary maybe worth chatting to some rallycross lads about suspension set ups as some of them seem to run small rwd hatches

[bazil]

rosemary maybe worth chatting to some rallycross lads about suspension set ups as some of them seem to run small rwd hatches

I think it's going to be a case of building it then worry about tge handling, if it sucks that badly I'll just 4x4 the cnut.

[turbojolt]

sounds like a plan lol

[bazzap8389]

Should be great rwd purely for the fun factor!

[bazil]

That's what in hoping for bazza, wanting about 200 ish bhp and see how it goes, the idea is that if i want more power I could convert the XE to turbo and upgrade the box and axle,

If it fails as a rwd id just fit a YBT and mt75 with a cut down atlas axle, means reworking the front end a bit but meh, How hard could that be?

[bazzap8389]

See how it goes and take it from there eh. Yb would be good fun though ;)

And those famous words... I've said those a few times lol

[bazil]

Yarp, deffo would be,, I missed out on that cozzy nova last year and tried finding it but gave up and bought this one, only to see the cozzie one pop up for sale 3 weeks later :-/

This build wont look pretty, it won't be full of intricate detail, but im just wanting a stupid nova for fun and abuse :)

[turbojolt]

get it done mate screw show looks just get your self a go pro and shoot up some videos of it for us plebs to drool over

[bazil]

get it done mate screw show looks just get your self a go pro and shoot up some videos of it for us plebs to drool over

Defo no show car, just using pov spec bumpers too, I don't see any point in paying good money for gsi bumpers and a full respray when im probably going to fcuk it into a tyre barrier backwards after going through a gravel trap lol

[dgbnova#1]

I seen this in the shed I picked it a mint a reg shell from there that is now chrisd1986 track car well will be
liked the idea just had no time or space to take it on
did hear it was heading to you thought your bonkers lol hell of a track it took

[bazil]

Im game for a laugh david lol,

Chrissy nailen is giving my 20XE a refresh and have spoken to philip about the inlet side of things, so just spreading the cost out for this, it's buying the mk2 escort bits thats going to cost me :-/

The thing that done it for me was that it kept its original track width, so despite the modifications its still a normal looking nova,,, ish

[dgbnova#1]

Ye defo a good laugh id say

message Nick Green he deals in mk1 and mk2 cars imports he may know of some dead wood that he's passed on buying could be a cheaper option

I have his number lays if you want to call him direct

will ask about also few lads round here have them

[sport]

Yer nuts........

[Southie]

This should be used and abused I reckon, that's what it was built for but due to being a bit different at the time was never appreciated as to what it should have been.

[Edd]

Absolutely love the flip front end

You gotta keep that

Ford bits :mad: :cry: lol

[Southie]

Stick a Zetec in it just to pisss Edd off lol

[bazil]

Yer nuts........

So my doctor says aswell, but the treatment doesn't seem to be working :thumb:


Ye defo a good laugh id say

message Nick Green he deals in mk1 and mk2 cars imports he may know of some dead wood that he's passed on buying could be a cheaper option

I have his number lays if you want to call him direct

will ask about also few lads round here have them

Cheers David, a T9 box at a decent price would be a great help maybe a rs2000 prop too, as for the suspension and steering im going all new on it and will be using a corsa B epas colum,


This should be used and abused I reckon, that's what it was built for but due to being a bit different at the time was never appreciated as to what it should have been.

For sure! Defo will be abused lol


Stick a Zetec in it just to pisss Edd off lol

Naa a 1300 xflow for that retro tappety noise lol

Absolutely love the flip front end

You gotta keep that

Ford bits :mad: :cry: lol

Have you seen how that was done? You wouldn't believe me if i told you lol
normal house internal door hinges lol
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/20140914_192736_zpssahvktfx.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/20140914_192736_zpssahvktfx.jpg.html)

[Southie]

This should be renamed in a Larry Grayson style then "shut that door Nova" lol

[EwanG]

Cancell this thread and forget this bollocks Bazil the sport comes 1st lol

[bazil]

Meh the sport is just a poverty spec 1.3 with stickers lol

[Southie]

Meh the sport is just a poverty spec 1.3 with stickers lol
More flintstones than poverty at the minute lol

[Nick J]

Epic buy fella!

nick.

[mowgli]

an omega v6 & box should be way cheaper than some ford thing, and would probably fit ok.. the sound would be excellent...

[Iain]

Amazed this bounced around like it did when it went up for sale. Granted it's a lot of work but its the ultimate rwd nova shell that still looks like one.

Jealous of you getting to build it up. If its using standard ish stuff up front and back it can only be a case of geometry to get it driving nice?

[Vlietje]

Cool!

[bazil]

More flintstones than poverty at the minute lol
lollol

Epic buy fella!

nick.
Thanks chief, it appealed to my sense of adventure :)

an omega v6 & box should be way cheaper than some ford thing, and would probably fit ok.. the sound would be excellent...
Naaa to heavy for very little gain over the XE,, the only ford engine id fit would be a YBT to go 4x4 as it would be easier to fit the sierra alloy crossmember,

Amazed this bounced around like it did when it went up for sale. Granted it's a lot of work but its the ultimate rwd nova shell that still looks like one.

Jealous of you getting to build it up. If its using standard ish stuff up front and back it can only be a case of geometry to get it driving nice?
Yeah pretty much mate, there a good garage that sets up drift cars and such with all the proper kit to dial it in, also AG motorsport aint far away either and they seem to set up a close to 1000bhp focus pretty well lol

Cool!
Something different :)

[bazzap8389]

That AG focus is a proper weapon saw it last year racing in the same class as a friend of a friends escort cosworth. Toyed with everything on the track!

[bazil]

Aye its a beast, so was their escorts, this one ended up being stripped and broken for parts after the engine was removed, it was a 662bhp harvey gibbs engine lol
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/random3/P8220021_zpseumrsnwl.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/random3/P8220021_zpseumrsnwl.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/random3/P8220027_zpsekoc2hzn.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/random3/P8220027_zpsekoc2hzn.jpg.html)

[jimbob-mcgrew]

rwd = :cool:

did you get the rear end setup with it... the arms/susp/diff/shafts, etc ?

[bazil]

Just the axle casing which is still 5 linked in, its been made to suit the shell so wouldn't have been worth removing as it probably wouldn't have been much use in anything else.
I just need to measure how wide it is to see if i can buy half shafts or if i need them made

[jimbob-mcgrew]

edit - ignore that retarded stuff about the lancia stratos, way too much work involved to re-design it to MR.

it should be a laugh to drive

[novatracker]

bazil i found this when coming up with a likewise plan for a nova

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/car-talk/294134-whos-boy-blue-rwd-nova.html (http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/52930/rwd-nova-saloon)

http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/52930/rwd-nova-saloon

[bazil]

Ah, seen those pictures on photobucket :) cheers.

If you check the link southie posted earlier you'll see lots more :)

[DAVIDKEDENS]

Looks mad in some of they photobucket pics.. Finally can open my mouth about this then Bazil? Didn't want to say anything as you were keeping it quiet at first :)

[bazil]

Looks mad in some of they photobucket pics.. Finally can open my mouth about this then Bazil? Didn't want to say anything as you were keeping it quiet at first :)

Aye you can spill the beans mate lol
kinda need some info on it so decided to post up about it.

[blue_peg_16v]

Basil there's a rwd xe fannymold on egay at the min

[bazil]

Basil there's a rwd xe fannymold on egay at the min

On the watch list now mate, thanks for that :)

[kevster]

Wow blast from my past

[bazil]

Wow blast from my past

Any information on this would be appreciated lol

So have had my early 20XE rebuilt with fresh rings and shells, obviously has the scalloped crank and forged pistons so should be a strong engine,
Also thinking of using a RX8 six speed gearbox rather than an ancient type 9, thanks to Alex D for the heads up ( basically I'm copying him )

Also had a coil pack head on it and the oil passage sleeved in the head too,

Eventually going to put bodies on it but the sport has the demand of my wallet just now.
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/FB_IMG_1430167075912_zpsyew8yofn.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/FB_IMG_1430167075912_zpsyew8yofn.jpg.html)http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/FB_IMG_1430167066740_zpsbagwakqv.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/FB_IMG_1430167066740_zpsbagwakqv.jpg.html)

[dgbnova#1]

Rx8 box in my local scrappy here bet it's cheap Also as there mainly after the metal not the parts

[BRoadGhost]

Some comments in this thread sadden me tbh. The guy built this up on his driveway & features some excellent engineering so show a little respect to a machine that in no way deserves to be how it is now.

I bet with the appropriate development time and a little budget, it would handle better than any FWD C20XE.

Have you considered using the running gear from an S2000?

[bazzap8389]

I totally forgot you had this beast. Will be some machine when you get it built back up!

[kevster]

Austin not really around now days , from what I can remember mate the prop was maded by Austin him self , think the reason he took it off the road was it done the box type 9 at pvs 2008 , mk2 escort steering colum and rack , think front shocks were Capri set up, turned in to coil overs by him self , I will see if I can get ahold of him for ya in the week .

The guy is extremely talented, as above was built on a drive way , just look how he figured out how to get pick up on the dizzy, I remember back 2005 ish he took me out in it wow .

As as for a drive train I would possibly look in to a Toyota starlet rear , possibly use a t5 box some how or look at how much work is involved in use in a m3 six speed box like the drifting boys do on the 1jz and 2jz

good luck with with this build I will be keeping a eye on this

[bazil]

Some comments in this thread sadden me tbh. The guy built this up on his driveway & features some excellent engineering so show a little respect to a machine that in no way deserves to be how it is now.

I bet with the appropriate development time and a little budget, it would handle better than any FWD C20XE.

Have you considered using the running gear from an S2000?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess.

I'm not going to bother looking at other setups, the cost and time involved to change the full rear end is something that would kill this build before it even starts for me.


I totally forgot you had this beast. Will be some machine when you get it built back up!

Should be a lol

Austin not really around now days , from what I can remember mate the prop was maded by Austin him self , think the reason he took it off the road was it done the box type 9 at pvs 2008 , mk2 escort steering colum and rack , think front shocks were Capri set up, turned in to coil overs by him self , I will see if I can get ahold of him for ya in the week .

The guy is extremely talented, as above was built on a drive way , just look how he figured out how to get pick up on the dizzy, I remember back 2005 ish he took me out in it wow .

As as for a drive train I would possibly look in to a Toyota starlet rear , possibly use a t5 box some how or look at how much work is involved in use in a m3 six speed box like the drifting boys do on the 1jz and 2jz

good luck with with this build I will be keeping a eye on this

Thanks for the info mate :)
I've looking at using group 4 escort front end bits, that's where the money will be spent, rough guide is about 1800 quid in suspension lol

I guess the biggest benefits for me is that the hard work is all been done and that newer and more specialist parts are now available off the shelf, garages with more advanced geometry measuring setups are more accessible than 10 years ago too so with all that in mind my focus is on suspension and handling more than engine and transmission right now.

If I didn't have the Sport build going on just now I could plough money into this but this one has to play second fiddle for now.

[kevster]

Motor sport tools .Co .UK , or log in to turbo sport and look at the group 4 link , hope this helps

[bazil]

Hmmm, progress, I bought something


http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/blue%20rwd/EC7F2BC7-8E99-4951-A0D1-81E2D13FED1B_zpsizbbhbo5.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/Bazil_2468/media/blue%20rwd/EC7F2BC7-8E99-4951-A0D1-81E2D13FED1B_zpsizbbhbo5.jpg.html)

[totalnova]

So would that be an rx8 box?

[EwanG]

Hey basil. To me it looks like a couple of old gearboxes and a Morrison's bag? lol

[bazil]

So would that be an rx8 box?

nah mate, omega getrag box, couldn't be arsed with the type 9 or rx8 boxes,


Hey basil. To me it looks like a couple of old gearboxes and a Morrison's bag? lol

its amazing what they sell in morrisons now mate lol

[EwanG]

lol