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stewart_2004
22-09-14, 09:23 PM
Hey all I've just purchased a 2nd hand piper cam bp285HY for my 14nv engine I have a couple of questions if anyone can help me out with answers. I've been told this cam will be fine for standard hydraulic lifters will it be ok with standard springs ?

Im im gonna use the standard pulley until I get a vernier pulley do I set the timing with original marks ?

Thanks in advance.

Stuart
22-09-14, 09:36 PM
It's more or less an ast2, which runs fine on standard timing settings and yes fine on hydraulic lifters and springs

stewart_2004
22-09-14, 09:52 PM
Thanks for reply Stuart engine is standard apart from 4 branch manifold I was told if I use standard timing with cam it won't give full performance unless a vernier is fitted I'm only using car for normal road use will the pulley make much difference ?

Stuart
22-09-14, 10:06 PM
Did someone who sells pulleys say that to you?

ive seen many many of these sub 300degree cams fitted with vernier pulleys which were all pulling great power and driver while sat on oem settings...

stewart_2004
22-09-14, 11:08 PM
It was the person I got cam from who said about pulley and performance. So would I need a vernier pulley ?

Stuart
23-09-14, 08:13 AM
Imho, no. Or course it's up to you but you'll find it's on near standard settings if you do get one. Although I've seen some where the marks have been offset to make it look like you did need one lol

Jonesfach
23-09-14, 10:06 AM
It was the person I got cam from who said about pulley and performance. So would I need a vernier pulley ?
Should run ok without vernier. Optimum setting not quite right but still should see a difference.
lumpy tick over is probably the biggest trouble.

stewart_2004
04-10-14, 03:45 PM
Right I've got cam now and about to fit it just took my dizzy off and cam has 2 holes in it but new piper cam also has a slot from side to side will this be ok.

millworm
04-10-14, 03:52 PM
Yeah, just means you can fit it to different dizzys. Will be fine

stewart_2004
04-10-14, 07:14 PM
Cheers for reply I have cam carrier off now does the cam come out seal end or dizzy end

Royston
04-10-14, 08:15 PM
Dizzy

stewart_2004
04-10-14, 08:44 PM
Cheers it feels tight does it need knocking out with rubber hammer ?

Royston
04-10-14, 08:45 PM
Have you removed the locking plate/2 bolts?

stewart_2004
04-10-14, 08:57 PM
Yeah removed the plate mate

stewart_2004
05-10-14, 03:51 PM
Just tried to fit new cam and it won't fit into the carrier also the cam seems to be slightly longer I was told it would fit my engine the cam is the BP285Hy

Royston
05-10-14, 07:48 PM
I have a Piper 285 in my Sport fitted OK, mechanical fuel pump not in the way, i.e. have you removed it, if you have one.

I would also check the length and diameters against your old cam

stewart_2004
05-10-14, 09:17 PM
The cam won't even start to go into the housing I've also noticed that the dowel for the pulley is also bigger when I put std and piper cam side by side piper is longer and the lobes don't match up the guy I got it off said it was removed from a 2.0 8v but would fit any 8v.

stewart_2004
05-10-14, 09:26 PM
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o98/stewart29992000/image_zpse2ba3bc6.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stewart29992000/media/image_zpse2ba3bc6.jpg.html)

Stuart
05-10-14, 09:26 PM
Ahhhh, no it won't fit a small block 8v

stewart_2004
05-10-14, 09:35 PM
Stuart what engine will the cam fit ? And which one do I need for my engine ? Best put it back up for sale

Royston
06-10-14, 06:42 AM
Looks very similar, but different .......possibly 1.6/1.8/2.0 OHC 8V Vauxhall?