suspension turrets

[steve1434]

Hi. What are the implications and/or concerns with having two inches added to the suspension turrets, thus effectively lowering the car but being able to use standard suspension for comfort.....

[steve1434]

I understand that I would prob need shorter rear springs though

[millworm]

Gonna be close to the bonnet, couldn't run a strut brace, would mean the lower arm is always angled upwards ect. Lowering springs and shocks (not Coilovers) are surprising forgiving anyway, better with slightly chunky tyres

[Novasport]

Hi. What are the implications and/or concerns with having two inches added to the suspension turrets.

They would hit the bonnet?!?

[steve1434]

I measured the space and it is a little over two inches between bonnet and turret. Just for arguments sake say it was just a 25mm change on the turret......

[dgbnova#1]

Sounds like a lot of work to me will look like a botch not very strong and gain 25 mm bonkers just get good suspension

[Calamity Josh]

burgo and his brother have just done this to there mk3 astra estate... seems to work well!

[staggy_gsi]

I know people in the past have been known to mount the stub axle further up the rear axle in order to get the back end lower, but to go to those lengths on the front end just seems daft....

[dgbnova#1]

burgo and his brother have just done this to there mk3 astra estate... seems to work well!
I would think there is a lot more space under the Astra bonnet is that the white one they got off Johnny putting good derv motor in it

[mowgli]

there was an army green nova a good few years back that had spaced turrets..

[steve1434]

Hmmm seems to be enough negative points to make it worth a go lol

Basically I have been playing around with bits to try and find oe comfort but not fall over in a corner. I have come close and a thread will follow soon, I think with 14" steels and a 65 profile tyre I will get what I want.

[dgbnova#1]

Oe comfort
oe suspension and lower shell is not gona make it handle better is it

[steve1434]

That is true, and not the answer. I asked the question the way I did for a reason - can't be bothered getting into the which suspension is the best etc etc as it's a personal taste and very very few can actually give a decent comparison. The question I asked is only a small part of the puzzle.

[dgbnova#1]

Ok spill then ! Only going of what you have put up



to try and find oe comfort but not fall over in a corner

[millworm]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7IqROatF--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18n1mkmxj1anxjpg.jpg

[mowgli]

op. it has definitely been done before to massively lower a nova but give more suspension travel.

most people seem to be of the concensus that anything more than -60mm is bad for handling, even though a few people have gone down about 100mm & enjoyed it, so your plan seems like a good idea.. obviously, there is some difference in the geometry with the bottom arm pointing upwards & maybe some shell mods will be needed for driveshaft clearance, and possibly on the rack mounting position/method, but i've never driven one so can't say what it would do to the handling.

i'll view this thread with interest as it progresses

[steve1434]

All in good time, besides it might not work properly on this attempt, but that's the fun in engineering I think. I have been playing around with bottom arms to try and keep everything pointing down or flat, but it's hard to properly test with just an empty shell in a small garage. If it works I will write it up otherwise it's back to the drawing board.

[fearless]

Thank Benn for this find :)

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?109412-The-Counts-Track-Day-Nova-Build&p=1118988&viewfull=1#post1118988

[Johnny A]

I say go for it, if you're looking for comfort but the looks of a big drop it's a good plan.

Things to remember:
Your welding must be very good
If in doubt go overkill with the bracing
Check, check, check and check again your clearances for wheels, driveshafts and most importantly wheels

[steve1434]

Thanks indeed Benn for the find - it seems that everything has already been done on a nova lol. What I have drawn up is very similar but with overkill on the bracing, same thoughts as Johnny there, but I have planned for a slight move of the top mount locating hole to allow for camber adjustment etc.

[dgbnova#1]

Well it's not as bad as I thought then but still a lot for not a lot imo

[Johnny A]

Well it's not as bad as I thought then but still a lot for not a lot imo

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JEdv2OqHsYU/TW-foMrOInI/AAAAAAAAF-A/euBdczzGw04/s640/Yoda+That+is+why+you+fail.jpg

[dgbnova#1]

Funny but the only FORCE here will be the shocker pushing the strut top out the bonnet lol

im all for chopping welding modding I love doing it as you will see when I get some more build threads going but that's a mod that does nothing for me at all and I could do it no problem but just to gain 25mm

[BRoadGhost]

That's odd, because I was thinking of it as not a lot of fab for a lot of benefit.

[dgbnova#1]

That's odd, because I was thinking of it as not a lot of fab for a lot of benefit.

i will bow to the benefit if you explain it to me my concerns are the welding of that part there just to gain that small amount of drop god they come of sometimes as they Are

[Benn]

Sounds like a lot of work to me will look like a botch not very strong and gain 25 mm bonkers just get good suspension

Not true, if done right it will look very close to factory. And lowering the shell down over the wheel will really help. You'll get more the 25mm too.

[dgbnova#1]

Well looking at the counts one he went 45mm and them tops were way higher than the bonnet more than 20 mm from the pics and I only said 25 as a guess but what's the benafits I'm not thick I know it's gona lower the car give more shock travel just why?

[Benn]

Just what i've been looking for too.

[BRoadGhost]

Because suspension stroke is a good thing on a road car.

[dgbnova#1]

Ok get it now that's it gona start chopping mine tomorrow lol