hiding expansion bottle

[brucer]

hey guys, I know benn will be the man to talk to, so will await his reply, but im thinking of hiding my expansion bottle. the main reason I want to move it is because ill be using a different turbo on my engine where the intake will be on the passenger side.

2 ways ive seen are to put it up in the scuttle area, imagine its pretty straight forward just routing hoses to it.

ive also seen the radiator filler necks which are just an inline joiner with a cap in the middle, if some have seen the latest total Vauxhall, the nova in there has it vertically built onto the water bar at the back of the engine. if it was done that way, will the coolant system still function as efficiently?

pics and advice will be much appreciated.

bruce

[dgbnova#1]

Funny did not spot that but hAve now akso the rad pipes are upside down or some different configuration and I see the flow return pipe on it is running along the back of the cam carrier under the inlet pipe and infront of the cam belt prob to make space for the K&N filter bolted straight onto The turbo but don't see why that would not work

[scott.parker]

Personally, cheapest, and imo easiest way is like Ben done, he's used copper pipes to take it out and behind the wing/inner wing, and then back in through the drain hole i believe.

[Plug]

Does the filling neck for the tank not have to be at the highest point?

I.e higher than the top of the rad?

Have you thought about getting a honda civic rad with expansion tank built in?

[conza123]

Funny did not spot that but hAve now akso the rad pipes are upside down or some different configuration and I see the flow return pipe on it is running along the back of the cam carrier under the inlet pipe and infront of the cam belt prob to make space for the K&N filter bolted straight onto The turbo but don't see why that would not work

Imthink if u read it he uses and diesel rad that's why outlets are differnt :)

[burgo]

Id look into as said civic rad or maybe saxo rad

[dgbnova#1]

Imthink if u read it he uses and diesel rad that's why outlets are differnt :)
Ahhh did read the article not the spec bit but makes sence not seen a derv rad well not paid attention anyway

[Benn]

Mine is a easy way, feed pipe thru the bulk head or under. Any turbo water feeds up the inner wings. Nice and simple. Youll need to drill one or two holes depening on how you wanna do it. A Corsa C header is good as it has two inlets and one outlet, so xe/let in std set up is right.
If u arnt using a std set up then its even easier. Im changing mine at the mo. As im not happy with it.


The scuttle is higher than the engine and rad so it still bleed/move the air though ok. (Like mine) On the waterbsr isnt high enough tho. So it would need bleeding from somewhere else. Ie: a pipe or join.

Id look at rads with a filler on, uts a very neat way of doing it plus it savss a bit of time rerouting pipes and such. Im get a custom rad made with the tank on the side, that way it will work, plus you can have tge filler tucked tight to the slam panel.

And pics of mine you want just ask.

[brucer]

Thanks for all the replies, benn for what reason dont you like how you've done it?

[Benn]

I didnt like the pipe on show next to the servo. So its being moved at the mo.

[brucer]

Thats just a personal thing and not an effect on the function of it?

Does yours go through the bulkhead (under dash) and then up through the scuttle area?

[dgbnova#1]

I would think out under servo and into wheel arch then back in to scuttle via the drain hole on the passanger side not seen it but that's the route I would go

[scott.parker]

I would think out under servo and into wheel arch then back in to scuttle via the drain hole on the passanger side not seen it but that's the route I would go


I thought thats how it is/was, i tried to describe it as that before, but obviously i failed lol

[brucer]

As far as I know, benns turbo return goes up the inner wing and the main big boy out of the bottle comes out by his servo as he has said he doesnt like.

unsure where his second small return off the inlet goes?

[Edd]

Loads of pics please Benn

[Benn]

Thats just a personal thing and not an effect on the function of it?

Does yours go through the bulkhead (under dash) and then up through the scuttle area?

Yea it is, and mine goes thru under the scuttle panel, with a copper elbow so it comes in to the bottom of the scuttle base.
I'll get a pic.


I would think out under servo and into wheel arch then back in to scuttle via the drain hole on the passanger side not seen it but that's the route I would go

Remember it needs to be pointing doen most the way, for the water flow to go... You can't go up and down or you get a air dock (think your U bend in the bog)


As far as I know, benns turbo return goes up the inner wing and the main big boy out of the bottle comes out by his servo as he has said he doesnt like.

unsure where his second small return off the inlet goes?

You are correct, front turbo drain runs under the slam panel, up the inner wing and in to the scuttle.
The small one from the inlet, goes straight thru the scuttle firewall to the bottle as it's hidden by the top hat cover.


Loads of pics please Benn

Will do, can do.

[Benn]

Not the best photo as it's taken while fitting the engine. But you can see the turbo drain that runs under the slam panel and up the inner wing.
(a new hole was drilled where it enters the scuttle, above the water drain bit)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20Updates%20May%2010%20on/enginerefit4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Car%20Updates%20May%2010%20on/enginerefit4.jpg.html)

Few year old pic, while it was in bits again. But you can see everything here. Where it goes though by the servo, up into the scuttle, and both returns.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20Updates%20May%2010%20on/Engineremoval12.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Car%20Updates%20May%2010%20on/Engineremoval12.jpg.html)

[brucer]

thanks benn, think ill follow a similar route as that.

[Benn]

Ok, any more questions just ask.