View Full Version : Pictures of Novas on GAZ coilovers, normal and ultra low.
scott.parker
17-04-14, 09:46 PM
As per title, i want to see pictures of anyone's nova on tgese gaz coilovers, i want to see the difference between the normal and the ultra low version, so if people could please post up there pictures with coilovers spec and roughly what ride hight settings etc, cheers.
Kev Turbo
17-04-14, 10:02 PM
If I recall Nick J was running both versions on his red Mk1
Maybe worth an ask.
Novaload_Nick
17-04-14, 10:02 PM
Gaz ultra lows approximately 50mm from being fully wound down
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/Novaload_Nick/012-27.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/Novaload_Nick/media/012-27.jpg.html)
craig green
17-04-14, 10:10 PM
Scott I could whore loads of my old photos (but wont). What is it you want to see? Or know.
scott.parker
17-04-14, 10:16 PM
Im trying to figure out what the actual difference is between normal gaz coilovers and the ultra low version, as you probably all know my cars quite low, but its on budget coilovers front and 100mm spring rears, well im looking to get gaz coilovers for the fronts as ive got my old avo coilovers for the rears, thus if theres a difference between them then i can decide which ones would be best.
Kev Turbo
17-04-14, 10:18 PM
The only difference I can see is that you can run the lower version around 100/120mm without sitting on the bumpstops.
Here's mine on rear ultra low coilovers with about 4-5 threads left from the bottom. This is with the rear completely stripped out though!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/1167118_10151589171031451_2049316539_o.jpg
craig green
17-04-14, 10:40 PM
fair do's. I found with the regular GAZ's, as Kev pointed out, when it's touching the bump stops the ride is poor. I raised it up slightly & was perfectly happy after that. I'm not all for going too low anyway, so this suited me. IMO when entering the realms of too low for normal coilovers/springs that geometry changes also come into play which is getting quite involved. (talking castor/camber mods).
craig green
17-04-14, 10:50 PM
Heres mine not sitting on the bumpstops.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Nova%20GSi/LGphone105_zps6b232537.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/turbocraig/media/Nova%20GSi/LGphone105_zps6b232537.jpg.html)
scott.parker
17-04-14, 10:54 PM
I just want the car as low as it is but not sat on bumpstops, as the ride is ****ing **** right now, i hate it, but it doesn't matter too much as it's only a 1.2 at the moment.
Ok so Ultra low Fronts it is then...
gaz rear, standard vs shortened
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/bachilds1988/DSCN3588.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/bachilds1988/media/DSCN3588.jpg.html)
front length
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/bachilds1988/DSCN3641.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/bachilds1988/media/DSCN3641.jpg.html)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/bachilds1988/DSCN3642.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/bachilds1988/media/DSCN3642.jpg.html)
I don't think this was all the way down either on the front, rear had quite a bit left
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/bachilds1988/DSCN3658.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/bachilds1988/media/DSCN3658.jpg.html)
Kev Turbo
17-04-14, 11:40 PM
I just want the car as low as it is but not sat on bumpstops, as the ride is ****ing **** right now, i hate it, but it doesn't matter too much as it's only a 1.2 at the moment.
Ok so Ultra low Fronts it is then...
The ride will be rubbish whatever route you go. Nova + lowered more than 60mm is more about looks than ride experience.
scott.parker
18-04-14, 07:52 AM
Cheers Bruce, them pics are quite helpful.
The ride will be rubbish whatever route you go. Nova + lowered more than 60mm is more about looks than ride experience.
Well this is why im asking, as ive been told these GAZ coilovers can run really low but retain a really good ride feeling..
scott.parker
18-04-14, 08:00 AM
This how mine sits on budget front coilovers with helper springs removed and 25mm thread left on the body, and billy shocks with custom made 100mm- rear springs.
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii505/scottie3080/20140315_174645_zpsd3mro0ro.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/scottie3080/media/20140315_174645_zpsd3mro0ro.jpg.html)
What's the price on a set of ultra low rears?
ive got no pictures that i can remember, but scott think back to billing when i was there in the pea green, ultra low coilovers, and the chassis was sat on the floor, well there abouts, havent jacked it all the way up but will be middle of the week to get the brakes checked
Johnny A
18-04-14, 10:12 AM
Remember guys that you need travel in the shocker, several inches at least from bottoming out when static. The 'amount of thread left' on the body is irreverent as the spring lengths and poundage can change/others can be bought to replace them.
By lowering more than about 25-30mm you WILL be messing up the geometry of the wishbones and steering arms, the more you lower.. the worse it gets. Thing is inherently lower means harder which has it's advantages... I suspect they outweigh the negative geometry traits but it's not ideal, I reset the geometry on my Carlton by essentially moving the hub up the carrier... but that doesn't really work on a FWD car due to those pesky CV joints!
This has nothing to do with comfort though, comfort is to do with how hard the springs are, how strong the dampening is and is they are bottoming out/hitting the bump stops.
BRoadGhost
19-04-14, 06:53 PM
Exactly; COG has nothing to do with ride comfort.
Johnny A
22-04-14, 06:50 PM
Does anyone have the body length differences for the rear coilovers??
in the pic I posted further up ^^^ no measurements though, but id say 3/4 to an inch.
Johnny A
22-04-14, 08:11 PM
I mean in total
Now when i specc'ed mine up, as i said i wanted to go 100+ low, i was told the ultra low kit, plus a custom shorted piston. So i wont ever sit on the bump stop.
I think the ride is great, even with it at its lowest.
Not the best pic, front was raised while i was doing my cv joint problems tests. Hasn't been dropped back down the 20mm i raised it yet...
But the front tyre is tucked in the arch when the wheels are straight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Road%20trips%20and%20Photo%20shoots/9r_zps8f9d24fe.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Road%20trips%20and%20Photo%20shoots/9r_zps8f9d24fe.jpg.html)
If youre wanting to run low Scott then forget the avos. Avos dont do low, well not without eating the piston seals lol
scott.parker
27-04-14, 06:01 PM
I had avo's on my old gsi, they would run at a low setting and were fine.
novalew
29-04-14, 07:11 PM
Benn how much did your setup cost?
BRoadGhost
29-04-14, 08:40 PM
Not Gaz, but Leda & has travel.
http://hostmypicture.com/images/fsside.jpg
craig green
29-04-14, 10:58 PM
Benn, shortening the piston wouldnt have any effect regarding the bumpstops, its the top of the piston/top mount that comes into contact with the bumpstop at full travel. Shortening the piston would eliminate the damper coming to the end of its travel (bottoming out).
Scott, you could go low without sacrificing travel by raising the turrets. Thats another can of worms.
scott.parker
29-04-14, 11:05 PM
Scott, you could go low without sacrificing travel by raising the turrets. Thats another can of worms.
I think this is why some people started using sold top mounts on top of the turrets..
Benn how much did your setup cost?
Very annoyingly. I got it 3months before png did that deal. I paid £598 from Rally Design.
Not Gaz, but Leda & has travel.
http://hostmypicture.com/images/fsside.jpg
Love. Moist. More pics needed.
Benn, shortening the piston wouldnt have any effect regarding the bumpstops, its the top of the piston/top mount that comes into contact with the bumpstop at full travel. Shortening the piston would eliminate the damper coming to the end of its travel (bottoming out).
Scott, you could go low without sacrificing travel by raising the turrets. That's another can of worms.
Very true, i didn't write that well i meant more bottoming out. My bump stops are only about an inch long too...
I want too/will turret the rear of mine and raise my turrets up 2 inches or so. So i can sit my battery only the brace and gain a bit more travel.
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