2.1 XE with Jenvey DTH throttle bodies

[MikeyC]

I will be selling my engine which has had a small fortune spent on it.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Engine_zpsa4483aec.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Engine_zpsa4483aec.jpg.html)

It has been rebored 0.5mm over bore using the standard Mahle pistons but they are brand new

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/f309a0be-63b6-41dd-8ba8-da42141559f3_zpsf256d3ec.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/f309a0be-63b6-41dd-8ba8-da42141559f3_zpsf256d3ec.jpg.html)

Uprated Rods (will be getting paperwork to confirm brand this weekend......I guessed standard after looking at the pistons but the guy I bought this from is adamant the rods were uprated it doesnt make sense to me after stripping it,so we will see when I get paperwork)
but either way the bottom end is brand new, The bores as you can see in the pic look fresh.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Bore_zps7ea02b31.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Bore_zps7ea02b31.jpg.html)

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Bore2_zpsf3cea3a8.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Bore2_zpsf3cea3a8.jpg.html)

Luminition C460 ECU and loom etc.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/LumentitionECU_zps4c45c557.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/LumentitionECU_zps4c45c557.jpg.html)

Jenvey DTH Throttle bodies with carbon Fibre trumpets 45mm

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/JenveyTBS_zps39667542.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/JenveyTBS_zps39667542.jpg.html)

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/KentCamsvernierpulleys_zps2905cd76.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/KentCamsvernierpulleys_zps2905cd76.jpg.html)

Schrik Cams - Number on them is 242004

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Schrikcams_zps065553ae.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Schrikcams_zps065553ae.jpg.html)

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Scrikcams_zps6cd2b9d3.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Scrikcams_zps6cd2b9d3.jpg.html)

Kent Cams Vernier Pulleys

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Kentcamspulley_zps0bd6b434.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Kentcamspulley_zps0bd6b434.jpg.html)

Lightened GM flywheel

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/Flywheel_zps4e097c74.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/Flywheel_zps4e097c74.jpg.html)

Standard Crank Shaft
ARP Rod bolts

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u500/Mikeyc20let/ARProdbolts_zps1b579f7e.jpg (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Mikeyc20let/media/ARProdbolts_zps1b579f7e.jpg.html)

ACL Race Main bearings
ACL big end bearings

After looking at the head it looks to me like a standard head which has been matched to the TB's
ARP Head stud kit
Hydraulic Lifters
Standard Valves
Standard Springs


The engine was running 200bhp before the rebore.

£2000


I also have all running gear and a mint shell if anyone would like to buy a complete project package it is available at the right price. If I gain no interest ill build the car and sell as whole.

Located near littlehampton west sussex.

[Will F]

What spec cams and whats the CR matey? I have a friend who may be interested....

[8valve-craig]

If you can get a proper spec up i may be interested.

[MikeyC]

engine spec:

Jenvey direct to head throttle bodies (£2000) new
Lumition Mappable ECU
QED Camshafts
ACL big end bearings
ACL Main bearing
ARP rod bolts
ARP Head stud kit
Pistons were uprgraded but i will contact my engine builder tomorrow for brand
Rods also upgraded and I will confirm tomorrow also which ones were used
C20xe crankshaft
Head was ported and polished
Block Rebored to a 2.2 Litre
Uprated and lightened flywheel

[MikeyC]

What spec cams and whats the CR matey? I have a friend who may be interested....

Im not 100% sure on compression ratio mate but ill speak to engine builder tomorrow and check it out....also cams are QED fast road cams - nothing too lairy but again ill check tomorrow.

Ill also update with some pictures.

[Will F]

Cheers, cams must be pretty lairy to get near 200 bhp...

[leefowler]

With throttle bodies, decent exhaust and dry sump 200 bhp is easy on a standard engine.

Lee

[8valve-craig]

engine spec:

Jenvey direct to head throttle bodies (£2000) new
Lumition Mappable ECU
QED Camshafts
ACL big end bearings
ACL Main bearing
ARP rod bolts
ARP Head stud kit
Pistons were uprgraded but i will contact my engine builder tomorrow for brand
Rods also upgraded and I will confirm tomorrow also which ones were used
C20xe crankshaft
Head was ported and polished
Block Rebored to a 2.2 Litre
Uprated and lightened flywheel





Thats still a very vague spec.

[MikeyC]

Cheers, cams must be pretty lairy to get near 200 bhp...
I disagree and it also depends what you class as lairy
Either way before this was re bored it was running 200bhp and that was tamed a bit on the map,

[MikeyC]

Thats still a very vague spec.

What exactly do you want and ill do my best to help you engine is being stripped so we can analyse the pistons, rods and cams today

[MikeyC]

With throttle bodies, decent exhaust and dry sump 200 bhp is easy on a standard engine.

Lee
Indeed, this was making 200bhp easily before re bore was done and further engine work.

My friend owned the engine hence why I can't remember what pistons and rods are but will look into it over the next couple of days

[MikeyC]

On second thoughts ill inspect the engine with a micro camera first and see if I can see the piston and rod names

[8valve-craig]

Ok, Im interested in the brand, size and style of pistons / rods. Spec of cams and brand of pulleys, Brand and spec of the springs and caps, Model of ECU, which type of head, Size of TB's (pressume 45's but its not advertised).

And most importantly how it ended up at 2200cc.

I would be buying this to strip for parts, so the fact that its coming apart already suits me.

[philip]

You can not rebore to 2.2. 88mm largest oversize piston can use. So it'll be 2090cc or there abouts.

which qed cams? Q38h, 42h, 420, 440, 450v or 460s? Hydraulic or solid profile, single, double springs, steel or standard retainers?

Ah on a strong tb'd xe with bit of headwork and fast road cams such as ast1612 kents you will see 195-205bhp peak. 240bhp you would be on solid profile too. Overbore doesn't really gain you much bhp.

[MikeyC]

Ok, Im interested in the brand, size and style of pistons / rods. Spec of cams and brand of pulleys, Brand and spec of the springs and caps, Model of ECU, which type of head, Size of TB's (pressume 45's but its not advertised).

And most importantly how it ended up at 2200cc.

I would be buying this to strip for parts, so the fact that its coming apart already suits me.

Ok i will have a look and give you all of these answers, :thumb:After inspection

[MikeyC]

You can not rebore to 2.2. 88mm largest oversize piston can use. So it'll be 2090cc or there abouts.

which qed cams? Q38h, 42h, 420, 440, 450v or 460s? Hydraulic or solid profile, single, double springs, steel or standard retainers?

Ah on a strong tb'd xe with bit of headwork and fast road cams such as ast1612 kents you will see 195-205bhp peak. 240bhp you would be on solid profile too. Overbore doesn't really gain you much bhp.

Ok thanks for your help
when we tune evos we used stroker cranks to increase displacement so when my friend (who had engine built) told me it was 2.2 I immediately assumed a different crank must have been used. I have now found out it is a standard crank shaft therefor must be 2.1 - I'm by means no expert when it comes to vauxhalls so I appreciate your help :)

in regards to the other questions regarding cams pulleys etc I will report back when I have had a look

thabks again

[Pistol Pete]

Rough price for ecu, loom and throttle bodies?

[MikeyC]

Rough price for ecu, loom and throttle bodies?

Sorry I would rather not split up mate

Thanks

[MikeyC]

Spec list updated.

[Will F]

With throttle bodies, decent exhaust and dry sump 200 bhp is easy on a standard engine.

Lee
No it isn't. And why on earth would you require a dry sump?? Lol

[MikeyC]

No it isn't. And why on earth would you require a dry sump?? Lol

Lol I was thinking the same ...the only reason why people use a dry sump is with BIG power cars to stop oil surge....on long right hand bends for example....but IMO dry sumps have just as many downsides as they do positives.
Dry sump for 200bhp lol

[leefowler]

Well you obviously know very little about XE tuning!

Lee

[8valve-craig]

Thanks for taking the time to update the spec. Unfortunately its not for me, but I do appreciate the honesty.

The rods are standard by the way.

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/smith9051/ARProdbolts_zps081ee6d4.jpg

[novacabrio]

Good luck with the sale, wish I had the money for it I'd have it in no time!

on the topic of the off topic conversation in here, my old black car made 193bhp from from throttle bodies, exhaust and a proper map by SBD, other than that it only had rod bolts that I'm aware of

[MikeyC]

Well you obviously know very little about XE tuning!

Lee

Fair enough mate I dont know why a dry sump would be needed to be fair. But thanks for your input and please feel free to elaborate :)

[MikeyC]

Thanks for taking the time to update the spec. Unfortunately its not for me, but I do appreciate the honesty.

The rods are standard by the way.

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/smith9051/ARProdbolts_zps081ee6d4.jpg

Ok mate thanks i asdumed they would be after seeing the standard pistons....and with an xe cant see the point in a rod job as these are good for any power you would hope to achieve with an xe

[Will F]

Well you obviously know very little about XE tuning!

Lee

lol I must do then. Pop over sometime, I will let you look under my bonnet!

[philip]

He can come to my workshop aswell will. Have a look at some proper xe's haha. Ive got lads running 260bhp on wetsumps still. 200bhp xe is: fast road cams, arp rod bolts, tbs/carbs and decent exhaust.

standard rods wont handle big revs compared to steel items and advised not too rev above 7.5k. Know a few that have been pushed higher and rods gone on holiday.

[cicli]

Still available? I could be interested on the ITB kit if you finally split.