Which cage

[bazzap8389]

I'm going to sell my safety devices bolt in cage in favour of a full weld in one, which cage do you lot recommend? I've seen custom cages ones and safety devices ones which is best?

cheers

[nova_stee]

Custom cages are cool as penguin piss and look hard core

[philip]

Custom cages because I have one in the evo and you know you wana be kool as me haha. Btw you get text earlier? On new fone but no numbers lol

[bazzap8389]

Haha cheers guys :)

Nah didn't get one mate

[8valve-craig]

What are you like with a welder? Its a very rewarding job if you do it right. You could keep your 6point, weld it in and add to it.

[philip]

Be alot safer with a proper cage than modding the bolt in one with all the carbon going onto it though.

[8valve-craig]

It would still be a proper cage, as long as you use the right materials and have a coded welder buzz around it.

Custom cages charge £2k because of their patterns and experience, which is fair, but if you have the skill / confidence then I would say cut and tack it in yourself and save a fortune.

Just thought it might be something to consider.

[mk1nova_rich]

I would follow Craig's advice unless money no object...cage kits are very expensive and half the time they require a lot of finishing.

[burgo]

Is your life not worth 2k then? And a poorly designed cage is more lethal than no cage at all

[mk1nova_rich]

Yes if you can afford a 2K cage then I'd do that

[philip]

The cage its self is about 700 I cant see them charging 1300 in labour either. Lad around the corner from me owns R.E.D and is a custom cages fitter as such. Anyone decent at welding can have the cage stamped. You get sent a sample piece to weld together, send back to CC and if passes you get a cert plate + number to ok the cage. I could start fitting cages tomorrow and have them certed.

I know what you mean about modifying the bolt in but ive been there and wish id put a proper cage in at the time, far better design too. If wasnt fact barry was doing so much carbon id probably suggested same thing but carbon needs some decent support.

[Mieran]

Is there no motorsport places near you that can make you a custom cage?

Might work out better than buying one off the shelf.

[8valve-craig]

The cage its self is about 700 I cant see them charging 1300 in labour either.

Cage is £612 to purchase in kit, Fitted it is £1623, and lets not forget the £324 VAT, so getting on for £2k yes.


burgo

Is your life not worth 2k then? And a poorly designed cage is more lethal than no cage at all

Life is priceless, But its only cutting, profiling and welding. Lots of us are capable of that to a more than good enough standard.

I copied their design, and used the same materials they would have used, which came in at around £300. Would reccomend it to anyone considering the same.

[8valve-craig]

If wasnt fact barry was doing so much carbon id probably suggested same thing but carbon needs some decent support.

This is a fair point, well made. The cage is going to pretty much be the only energy absorbing part in anything other than a frontal impact.

[philip]

Shame so far away as the lad at r.e.d is **** hot cage builder and well priced too. Wallace performance anywhere near you matey? They may know someone near you thats all

[bazzap8389]

Thanks for the replies, can't imagine I'd be too handy with a welder tried it once years ago lol but on the plus side I work in a maching and welding shop so one of the welders would happily help me out if need be. My works pretty good for letting us do homers so I'll see if they'll let me take the car in.

If they don't let me take the car in ill happily pay the money to get it done correctly at the end if the day it has to be safe. Craig I just wanted to buy a ready made weld in one to save hassle etc I can claw some if the money back selling the bolt in.


yeah Wallace is just a 1 minute walk from my work, they're the guys that will be mapping my car I think.

[dc1984]

Have you tried chizfab mate? They do custom cages and really are top lads at what they do.

[Alex J]

one of these will do lol

http://30cms.co.uk/temp/bb%20(2).jpg

[bazzap8389]

^ haha lol

dc, I never thought of them seen them advertised at driftland as well. Think I'll drop them an email had a we look on their site they do 4x4 conversions aswell which sounds appealing lol

[MK999]

Hockley cages are very good and cheaper than CC fully profiled. That's going to be my option when I get round to it sometime in the 2030's

[dgbnova#1]

Custom cages are good but I would go for the high spec tube not sure the code they used but it's stronger lighter and my mate regrets not using it on his racer will upload some photos of his cage he did himself when get a chance.
Plus ure takin roof off helps to get to welds over the top also

[MK999]

T45 :)

[bazzap8389]

Yeah i was going to go for the t45 stuff no point going half assed on it eh lol just spoke to a welder at my work he'll happily weld it in for me which is a boost.

[burgo]

Surely that 2k price is drive in drive out. Im sure if you were to deliver th car fully stripped ready to go it would be cheaper

[david dixon]

If you want a good/safe cage try hauser racing, they will do you a T34, CDS steel or 4130 or another good place to deal with Is John Sleath

[bazzap8389]

Thanks I'll look into them :thumb:

[faker]

The is nothing wrong with a bolt in multi point safety devices cage, in fact they are superb. I would agree that sparco and omp cages for novas are a a bit limp! I would be of the opinion that some of the modern day weld in cages are overkill. My own personal opinion.

[bazzap8389]

I only have a 6 point bolt in at the moment and since I'm upgrading it I thought I be aswell just go for a weld in one, agreed some are a bit overkill but I like it lol

[vx kev]

I would recommend Chizfab aswell mate, I had them build my exhaust for my Let. Top Job they made of it! They specialize in drift car preparation etc. so building cages is what they do well, along with everything else! :thumb:

[bazzap8389]

Thanks mate, I'll defs have a look into them, the only problem is getting the car down there it a
bit of a trek.

[dgbnova#1]

These are the only 2 photos I have I will get some more it's a civic typeR
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w535/dgbnova1/IMAG0423_zps056e95bd.jpg

http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w535/dgbnova1/IMAG0424_zpse3a40681.jpg
Alloy cover to hide swirl pot and pump looks well tidy
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w535/dgbnova1/IMAG0420_zpsaa0186e3.jpg

[vx kev]

Thanks mate, I'll defs have a look into them, the only problem is getting the car down there it a
bit of a trek.

Yeh just a bit of a trek but pretty much Motorway/dual carriageway all the way so an easy Trek :thumb:

[BRoadGhost]

IMO go for the basic triangulated one from custom cages then gusset it. Anything more than that is overkill on a light nova body.

[Mark]

Custom Cages....FTW!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/8609e06a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/c29c9fcb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/157cb3a1.jpg

[dgbnova#1]

That ^ looks great did you do it yourself Mark?

[bazzap8389]

That's exactly what I'm after mark cheers, which one is that? It looks slightly different to the ones they have on their site?


i sent the guys at chizfab an email a few days ago still ain't heard back from them.

[bazil]

Is walden engineering still on the go up there?
I seen some of the corsa S1600 cars they prepared looked proper job, they used to do novas years ago

[bazzap8389]

I've never heard of them mate I'll google it lol

Edit- first thing that popped up on google he's buggered off with 10k of parts etc from some bloke. **** that lol

[MK999]

The custom cages site is a bit crap for finding the proper one, all I remember is drop down boxes and then selecting multi point gets you there, think it's from the home page.

[BRoadGhost]

Fairly sure mine was a custom cage, but bought second hand then altered / added slightly so who knows!

http://sadpanda.us/images/1849000-AISLGOM.jpg

[bazzap8389]

Very nice think I'll be going for that cage :)

[Mark]

That's exactly what I'm after mark cheers, which one is that? It looks slightly different to the ones they have on their site?


i sent the guys at chizfab an email a few days ago still ain't heard back from them.

http://www.customcages.co.uk/Rollcage/LoadRollCage.castle?manufacturer=Vauxhall&model=Nova&type=Multipoint

Multipoint CDS, standard apart for the spreader plates.

[Mark]

That ^ looks great did you do it yourself Mark?

No, my friend welds cages in his spare time....(properly not badge jobs). Not cheap mind..

[Mark]

Some 'during fitting' shots..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/dced7e2f.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/223f546a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/61f7a92c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/527f7112.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/077cb440.jpg

[bazzap8389]

That's great thanks very much :)

Is the t45 really worth the extra £300 then?

[philip]

You wont need t45 for the motor you'll have, extra few kg of the cds wont slow you down lol

[Mark]

That's great thanks very much :)

Is the t45 really worth the extra £300 then?

no.

[dgbnova#1]

Think you may need the extra weight thinking on

Ure mates "spare time cage fitting" looks spot on

[bazzap8389]

Silly question but there is an option for seat rails as well, is this for mounting side mount seats etc?

[bazzap8389]

You wont need t45 for the motor you'll have, extra few kg of the cds wont slow you down lol
True story lol

[Mark]

Silly question but there is an option for seat rails as well, is this for mounting side mount seats etc?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/92d99851.jpg

Good for side mounts or bottom mounts, allows for low seating position.

[stt]

I would go t45 as given the £300 as a percentage of the overall spend on the car it's minimal and its something you'll regret later
Not only is t45 lighter it's significantly stronger

[dgbnova#1]

They don't use the t45 for nothing and its lighter so you can add extra tubes and still come in under the weight of a standard weld in.
Those seat rails look a bit limited on adjusting?

[bazzap8389]

Thanks for the pics mark, big help. I was wondering how I'm going to mount my side mount seats! I'm going to have a think about which one to buy supposed to be saving for a house just now lol

[timbo1980]

I have a fabricage multi point cage in my car ,similar to custom cages one & a bit cheaper as well i think i remember previous owner saying, your welcome to drive the 32miles to the armpit of society that is Peterhead & take a look lol

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/a1bab4f1.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/a1bab4f1.jpg.html)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/7f7c474a.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/7f7c474a.jpg.html)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/f11da6e8.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/f11da6e8.jpg.html)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/2bfde122.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/2bfde122.jpg.html)

[dc1984]

I have a fabricage multi point cage in my car ,similar to custom cages one & a bit cheaper as well i think i remember previous owner saying, your welcome to drive the 32miles to the armpit of society that is Peterhead & take a look lol

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/a1bab4f1.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/a1bab4f1.jpg.html)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/7f7c474a.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/7f7c474a.jpg.html)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/f11da6e8.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/f11da6e8.jpg.html)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/timbo1980_photos/2bfde122.jpg (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/timbo1980_photos/media/2bfde122.jpg.html)


Thas some cage mate :)

[dgbnova#1]

Thanks for the pics mark, big help. I was wondering how I'm going to mount my side mount seats! I'm going to have a think about which one to buy supposed to be saving for a house just now lol


Just think when ure done you could secure a mortgage on the nova!:)

[bazzap8389]

Nice cage mate looks very similar to the custom cages ones.

dgb yeah I know mate it's depressing how much I've spent/ have still to spend lol

[dgbnova#1]

I'm just jealous tbh and think a lot of people on here would kill (within reason) to build what you are although I'm sure there's a fair few purists making voodoo dolls as we speak (you know who you are!) lol

[bazzap8389]

lol I still stay at home just now though mate so I can afford it just now, trying to get as much out the way as possible before I buy a house, my gf finishes uni in a year so I've got about another year and a half or so to be spend happy lol

Not going to lie I kind of feel bad for doing this to a gsi though I'll have all the parts to change back if I ever decide to not that i will though lol

[dgbnova#1]

It's going to be one he'll of a car plus very little to wrot I'd be tempted once all the welding is done cage an all getting it e coated like new cars get but that depends on if ure getting it dipped or not?

[bazzap8389]

I'm hoping so mate, decided not to get it dipped, it's really not as bad as I thought anyway it does require some attention but it's all easily fixed :)

[bazzap8389]

Just ordered a cage, it says they will be in touch with the full price including vat + shipping via phone or email :) better start putting in some extra hours lol

My safety devises cage will now be going up for sale.

[dc1984]

Pm sent Bazza

[bazzap8389]

Replied mate cheers :)

[dgbnova#1]

Whats ure bolt in like? Think I may know someone for it also price?

[dc1984]

Got to be worth 300-350 Bazza

[bazzap8389]

It's good condition iirc I can't get any pics at the moment it's absolutely buried under a pile if nova bits lol I'll get pics when I get the garage cleared out a bit then I'll put a for sale thread up. I'll say £325 Ono to start with.