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BRoadGhost
01-09-13, 10:30 AM
Can you MIG weld to cast iron?
novaxe235
01-09-13, 10:35 AM
No, arc weld it with cast rods, heat what ever your welding before with gas as well.
It welds easy enough but the heat/cooling tends to crack the cast.
Pretty dodgy. I managed to weld up a cracked exhaust manifold but dont expect it to last forever.
Easy with a stick welder (so I'm told)
bazzap8389
01-09-13, 10:37 AM
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/support/welding-how-to/pages/welding-cast-iron-detail.aspx
bazzap8389
01-09-13, 10:38 AM
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/support/welding-how-to/pages/welding-cast-iron-detail.aspx
Weld cast at my work, its usually done on a sub arc though
BRoadGhost
01-09-13, 10:56 AM
Sometimes I wonder how successful a plan like this could be once welded:-
http://d.pictureupload.us/129353580352230f08c83a0.jpg
http://d.pictureupload.us/111923074952230f3444207.jpg
Surely a bracket would be easier and stronger no?^
the hub carrier will not actually be cast iron. it will be cast steel, much stronger. a good welder should be able to sort you out, but machining it straight will be a pig.. thus i agree with benn about making up an adaptor out of some 8 or 10mm steel plate
blue_peg_16v
01-09-13, 05:02 PM
My willwoods have alloy adapter brackets
Welding wont be a problem, pre and post heating will be though. Wouldnt bother imo would just get a bracket made
Royston
01-09-13, 09:17 PM
Bracket for me, welding/preheat would require a new wheel bearing, could also warp!
meritlover
02-09-13, 06:28 AM
Why on earth would you want to weld that instead of using an adapter bracket?
deneil_gsi2000
02-09-13, 07:37 AM
Even with all the pre and post heat you still can't guarantee the welds unless you get a firm to test the parts I.e NDT, and by the time you've done all that you could probably of had a set of bespoke hubs built for the money it'll cost ya. I'd scrap that idea mate and get a set of adapters made, it's a far to crucial part to be welding. A welded bracket may look better but an adapter will be much safer
Also, looks like the easiest bracket to make ever too, no step in height from the looks or it or anything...
I think what Simon is getting at is he wants to run the calipers on the rear of the hub as opposed to the front?
GRUNT 16V
02-09-13, 10:32 AM
fook welding hubs !!!! get a bracket made up
BRoadGhost
02-09-13, 12:33 PM
Yeah Tony's on the same page; hello mate.
I guess something like this from billet could be made:-
http://sadpanda.us/images/1826982-245TU3O.jpg
Yeah Tony's on the same page; hello mate.
I guess something like this from billet could be made:-
http://sadpanda.us/images/1826982-245TU3O.jpg
Oh so you want the caliper on the other side? (didn't spot that in the first pics unless you've changed them)
Pistol Pete
02-09-13, 07:32 PM
Fail. Surely some quick measurements and even a rough drawing on MSpaint and a decent engineering shop could machine some brackets up for you?
ok, sorry for us not getting that....
1. it might not fit. the steering joint arm could foul it...
2. your brake line/bracket etc will be in the wrong place.
3. bleeding might be an issue
4. surely it will get hotter back there cos the airflow won't be quite so good.
Why would bleeding a issue? As long as the nipples at the top it will bleed.
Pistol Pete
02-09-13, 09:21 PM
Looking at how it is mocked up above, the nipple is at the bottom...
deneil_gsi2000
02-09-13, 09:32 PM
Its just a case of the left-right caliper switcharoo
Why would bleeding a issue? As long as the nipples at the top it will bleed.
if you couldn't get it to fit in the right place so the nipple is at the top, it might be
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