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front arb, yes or no???, pros and cons, mines got one at the moment , shall i weigh it in??
chrisd1986
23-07-13, 08:53 PM
Well im yet to fit mine but my car is twichy as **** without compared to my saloon
weigh the mofo in! loved my xe without it, can't comment on let.
mk1nova_rich
23-07-13, 09:08 PM
Never noticed the difference on mine
Novasport
23-07-13, 09:17 PM
You have driven it with it on, so try it without and see what it is like. If yo don't like it, chuck it back on or just break the car as usual ;)
I would say it was personal preference so it is down to you.
my 1.5 diesel van has a rear arb but no front arb and it handles like a gokart but i do want to try it with one on the front to find out the difference
Jeff16v
23-07-13, 09:51 PM
I don't run one on my LET, I have one, it got painted and I forgot to put it back on. Lol it's all point and squirt anyway.
Dangerous without
Even more dangerous with an oem Vauxhall designed one fitted (or you behind the wheel of any vehicle). A pilbeam one or similar proper design, then hell yeah fit it.
Even more dangerous with an oem Vauxhall designed one fitted (or you behind the wheel of any vehicle)..
lol lol lol
i would go with out it. the less weight the better ;)
blue_peg_16v
23-07-13, 10:38 PM
Hated mine with one bin it in my opinion
With updated suspension I'd say no
Std then I think it was needed to stiffin it up a bit a stop some body roll ,
scott.parker
24-07-13, 12:04 AM
Never ran one on any of my xe nova's.
Your better with strut mount top and the bottom chassis strut mount.
jimbob-mcgrew
24-07-13, 12:07 AM
haha - I love this topic. such mixed answers lol
do a few runs on a particular piece of road you know well, that will be a good test for it. try it on and off, and see what you think :thumb:
Never ran one on any of my xe nova's.
Your better with strut mount top and the bottom chassis strut mount.
Top and bottom braces are aiming to achieve different things to what an anti roll bar do so not really comparable.
I did several testing sessions with and without at Cadwell Park in my XE Nova on semi slicks and ended up leaving it on.
scott.parker
24-07-13, 09:17 AM
Yeah, but Alex only goes straight...
weigh it in mr merris and then by kebab meat n chips :thumb: :)
BRoadGhost
24-07-13, 01:05 PM
Chances are Iain the reason it felt better with it on was because the cut slicks made a mockery of the spring rates.
To answer the question; I think it comes down to how developed the rest of the car is. Put simply if you're derping around on close to standard setup it'll feel more solid with it on (a good thing), but if you're reducing ride heights, upping spring rates, putting larger wheels on, maybe strengthening some of the body, then chances are you'll feel the reduced turn in and possible understeer (not to mention the few extra KG a solid bar weighs); not being a good thing.
There are far more dynamic ways of making a chassis come alive.
turbojolt
24-07-13, 01:13 PM
how could a car be dangerous with out it, when loads came out of the factory with out them :wtf:
sounds like more modem expert bull **** to me.
Chances are Iain the reason it felt better with it on was because the cut slicks made a mockery of the spring rates.
Quite possibly, I've not gone too mad investigating spring rates for tracks and tyres. The car felt 'twitchy' like it wanted to snake left and right during long sweeping corners, whereas with it on it felt much more stable and planted in the same corner without feeling like it wanted to push forward.
sounds like more modem expert bull **** to me.
hahahaha lololol
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to turbojolt again.
i only do burnouts and the odd track day, so the bin it is then!! how do people lower the arb to stop it hitting on the box then?
With lowering blocks lol
I binned my front arb.
Is the tie bars hitting the lug on the box? If so trim the lug off...
Southie
24-07-13, 09:27 PM
I had one when I was running a c16xe with solid top mounts and solid engine mounts, it was terrible with one on.
BRoadGhost
25-07-13, 06:12 PM
Yep chop that bit off the casing or lower the front tie bar mounts.
No ARB for me ,but need to adjust spring rates to compensate
No front arb on mine, and it goes round corners rather well i think, or in laymans terms ive managed to keep it out of the scenery in over a year of abuse lol
Is the tie bars hitting the lug on the box? If so trim the lug off...ive cut the lug off, but when its on the deck its touching it, im now mounting the tie bar under the lower arm, just getting these finished up..
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