View Full Version : I hate rally Novas!!!!! Do you agree????
monty_trials
20-06-13, 11:29 AM
Hay guys...been a few months since i posted last, I had that blue mk2 rally sri for sale not long back!!! The one I bought to make standard again.....Shame it was too far gone and I sold it to a guy that wanted to rally it, fair enough.......But I bet before it was made into a rally car it would of been a nice Nova!!!! Does anyone agree that years ago.... its ok to make them a rally car but now......LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!! They are proper classics now!!! There are not too many left, and I think they have had too much abuse from chavs over the years and stupid roll cages and daft bucket seats!!!!! Ive been looking for a nice one for ages now, and all I see is stock cars or rally ones!!!!!!! No disrespect to anyone who does rallys, but Nova now is not a chav car, or a car to be messed with!!! Tiny mods to your liking yes!!! Ie nice set of alloy wheels, or a mk1 or mk2 spoiler to a standard model, or maybe color code your bumpers etc!!! Things like that!!!....Does anyone agree??? What I am saying is....KEEP THEM REAL!!!! We all love them as I do, but I hate seeing too many rally messed with ones!!!Its such a shame!! :) :)
Hope no one takes offence, its only my opinion :) xxx
therealnovaboy
20-06-13, 11:44 AM
I disagree entirely. If you buy a car you can do what you want with it as its yours.
Id rather see a nova going flat out through a forest than sitting in a gay carcoon or sit in someones garage 90% of the year. dont get me wrong I like to see well looked after novas and hate to see poor examples messed about with but if it makes people happy doing what there doing i dont really care.
Take a grinder to them, cage it and brave it. They're utter tripe in standard form apart from being light, I like walking around the shows and seeing well maintained and modified cars of any mark, especially Novas, but there's plenty of examples tucked into garages and in private collections to put in a museum in 20 years.
Also as above, buy a car and it's yours to do what you want with it. It's not like they're buying the very last one on earth just so they can watch it burn.
Scrap them all, fcuking addictive money pits
Scrap them all, fcuking addictive money pits
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/random3/B8E962AF-22CA-43DB-95E9-E2195A84C403-4523-00000590F1EF483C_zps220c6ba7.jpg
kent14sr
20-06-13, 12:03 PM
Totally disagree.
Great motorsport car, and ideal for rallying.
Had this not been the case then they would probably be even rarer and less well known now.
Standard ones do nothing for me, and they're never going to be a luxury ride, so use and abuse them I say! Trackday, race, rally etc.
Standard ones do nothing for me, and they're never going to be a luxury ride, so use and abuse them I say! Trackday, race, rally etc.
Says Mr. ImTooMuchOfAGirlToRemoveMyElectricWindows
I'm slowly torturing mine,
Keeping them locked up in a dark , cold , damp garage and watching them suffer over the years as they rot away to death!!
MUH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I don't mind rally, track etc, fcuking idiots smashing them up in stock, rods, grassers etc fcuks me off tho, pointless nonsense that some people have attempted to call motorsport
monty_trials
20-06-13, 12:26 PM
What i mean is i prefer this...
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/4426/hpim00674li.jpg
To this
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/542862_617087108307161_1075826129_n.jpg
that's not a rally nova, in the slightest.
edit: although I'd still rather do a few laps in the <insert correct type>-rod than the standard SR
monty_trials
20-06-13, 12:38 PM
ok...like this... http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3338/3636183208_3dc2dfe8ba_z.jpg?zz=1
At some point it will get smashed, and abused and red topped, coz the last engine got hammered...I just think its a shame :(
deneil_gsi2000
20-06-13, 12:55 PM
Thats what novas are for lol .You can polish anything all day everyday but theres very little out there that can compete budget wise with a nova . If you look at it another way its pointless building a c20xe or let nova for a roadcar but everyone does it.
Swings and roundabouts really
Says Mr. ImTooMuchOfAGirlToRemoveMyElectricWindows
When you finally use a Nova on the road during the summer then come insult me, until then pipe down and read some more textbooks lol
I don't mind rally, track etc, fcuking idiots smashing them up in stock, rods, grassers etc fcuks me off tho, pointless nonsense that some people have attempted to call motorsport
Went to the local autograss meet last Sunday, it was a field full of Minis and Novas. Nobody's out to just smash them up but most look a bit battered.
I did! it was stripped out, and the cold blowers with the windows down were effective than opening the windows and letting hot air in :p
And I'll insult you all I like, you know how this relationship works, mutual **** flinging lol
Well Monty have faith!
My blue project was a shell destined for stock car racing but the lad is selling his nova shells off and moving into corsa C's
Why you may ask?
Well truth is that good nova shells are getting harder to find at cheap prices, so there you go one nova saved from the track.
Just a shame I'm putting a XE in it and GSI interior lol
You could say exactly the same thing about mk1/mk2 Escorts being used for rallying! But if it wasn't for them being used as rally cars they would most probably all be worth very little to what they are worth now and most would have more than likely have been scrapped because of this.
Liam I gotta laugh at those folk who say it was terrible they killed 6 mk1 escorts in the fast 6 film,
Why was it a bad thing? The way I see it the demand or popularity of them will increase due to the film and keep prices high for good examples.
Scrap them all, fcuking addictive money pits
You're at the bottom of the food chain. Buy another make and then see what things really cost. lol
As for not rallying them etc, don't be a tart. They are crap in standard form, too.
Plus, a lot of aftermarket and re-engineered parts would simply not be available, if not for motorsport interest in the car.
With a name like 'trials' I would expect you to have a different outlook. lol
You could say exactly the same thing about mk1/mk2 Escorts being used for rallying! But if it wasn't for them being as rally cars they would most probably all be worth very little to what they are worth now and most would have more than likely have been scrapped because of this.
all escorts should be scrapped
all escorts should be scrapped
Don't be a bitter bell end. So you backed the wrong horse, suck it up. RWD Escorts should be scrapped, yet FWD Novas should all be saved? lol lol
mk1 and 2 Escort lads may have very valuable cars, but they have to pay a fortune for their parts. Unlike anything Vauxhall.
So fair play to them.
Don't be a bitter bell end. So you backed the wrong horse, suck it up. RWD Escorts should be scrapped, yet FWD Novas should all be saved? lol lol
mk1 and 2 Escort lads may have very valuable cars, but they have to pay a fortune for their parts. Unlike anything Vauxhall.
So fair play to them.
Fair play? Stupidity more like
Terrible cars that someone along the line decided they were the 'heritage ' of motorsport lol
Fair play? Stupidity more like
Terrible cars that someone along the line decided they were the 'heritage ' of motorsport lol
More like people saw it as a worthwhile car to develop over the years.
A Grp 4 spec car is quite a machine. Anyone that says otherwise is a fool.
So what makes a rally spec Nova so amazing?
So what makes a rally spec Nova so amazing?
Colin mcrash (rip) used one for a bit... thats all this lot hang onto lol
Colin mcrash (rip) used one for a bit... thats all this lot hang onto lol
That's all I can think of, too. I am sure Edd knows best, and Colins Sport would run rings around a properly prepped mk2.
Wonder if Colin threw away his brown coin holder and radio blank? lol
I, like many, was a huge McRae fan, but imo he killed his son and the other two people. No two ways about it.
Colin mcrash (rip) used one for a bit... thats all this lot hang onto lol
Mark Higgins was pretty handy in one too oh and that English bloke the came in 4th on the ulster in a nova was pretty handy in one too and really was a giant killer sometimes real David and Goliath stuff,
http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=9751&t=The-Elbow-Ulster-Rally-1992
kent14sr
20-06-13, 02:09 PM
That's all I can think of, too. I am sure Edd knows best, and Colins Sport would run rings around a properly prepped mk2.
Wonder if Colin threw away his brown coin holder and radio blank? lol
I, like many, was a huge McRae fan, but imo he killed his son and the other two people. No two ways about it.
Whatever happened that caused the tragic deaths of the four individuals happened, however; Colin was a superb driver and beat many more potent offerings in his lowly Nova and I read in Total Vauxhall it caused great embarassment to Harry Hockley who never got that car anywhere near the success Colin acheived!
Ford, blue oval, pinto's with blower strapped on (YB ), whale tail spoilers, RS heritage shizzle, it's all crap, scrap the lot
The YB is a Cosworth developed engine with a 16v head, the block may be the same as a pinto (I've actually no idea on that tbh) but funnily enough that's exactly the same situation as the Cosworth designed Vauxhall 2.0 turbo.
I'm not a fan of Fords myself in general, but not appreciating the huge difference between a well engineered 16v head and an 8v with port design equivalent to the 40's/50's just because it has the wrong badge on, just invalidates any point you're trying to make.
BRoadGhost
20-06-13, 03:57 PM
You don't see that many tarmac rally spec novas, which is a shame imo.
The problem with a nova that's stock or close to it is when they get away from you, they're SO HARD to get back because the steering isn't quick enough; your hands will be everywhere with a 50/50 chance of ditch finding.
Doesn't really matter what it's built for, I see this problem as a safety feature so can't agree with unmodified.
Ford, blue oval, pinto's with blower strapped on (YB ), whale tail spoilers, RS heritage shizzle, it's all crap, scrap the lot
There's more to life than one marque. I know that.
In the grand scheme of it, who the **** are Vauxhall?
Give your a head a shake and take off the blinkers for once.
therealnovaboy
20-06-13, 04:18 PM
its arguments like this eg my vauxhall nova is faster than your ford tat, that make motorsport novas worth while. you just have a race and the winner is better.
Thats what they did with the mk1/2 escorts and the escort has become well known, popular rally car. They tend to beat all the vauxhalls in its class.
tonny31
20-06-13, 05:17 PM
I don't mind rally, track etc, fcuking idiots smashing them up in stock, rods, grassers etc fcuks me off tho, pointless nonsense that some people have attempted to call motorsport
to me thats just the same, if a crash happens it could be a write off, be it in rally, track, stocks, rods etc. I both race stocks and rods and I'm not out there to smash it up, one car I have has been going for 7 years. on the otherhand I'm restoring a nova gsi, and have another one on the road just because I like them.
to me it is motorsport, athough it's not everbody's cup of tea. I have people around me that have written of more cars on the roads than I have on an oval, i think that is pointless
I don't mind rally, track etc, fcuking idiots smashing them up in stock, rods, grassers etc fcuks me off tho, pointless nonsense that some people have attempted to call motorsport
Wind ya neck in daft lad.
You dont know the first thing about anything you have mentioned.
It is motorsport,and grass has its own governing body.
Your posts remind me of groundhog day,same **** every single day.
mk1nova_rich
20-06-13, 06:11 PM
Edd, a lot of grasser Novas would be uneconomical to repair for the road so at least people are still getting use out of them rather than sending them to the scrapyard
Wind ya neck in daft lad.
You dont know the first thing about anything you have mentioned.
It is motorsport,and grass has its own governing body.
Your posts remind me of groundhog day,same **** every single day.
Exactly! I do grassing although its not run under NASA.
It's a Motorsport you tart.
I'd quite like to take your nova on the track though & smash it up like us grasser lads do... Apparently!
Edd, a lot of grasser Novas would be uneconomical to repair for the road so at least people are still getting use out of them rather than sending them to the scrapyard
When muppets bridge them for having a hole in the battery tray, and faded bumpers, then expect no less.
My pics won't display.
http://www.assetstorage.co.uk/AssetStorageService.svc/GetImageFriendly/720514974/426/640/0/0/1/80/ResizeBestFit/0/FRU/8A97ECD86CA090DCC82A4B103773FF7D/30-may-banger-nova.jpg
They get bought off morons who havent the skills to repair them.
As for this thread,absolutely laughable.Never thought id see the day mongs are crying over vauxhall novas.
Care that much about them,get em bought and fixed.
http://www.assetstorage.co.uk/AssetStorageService.svc/GetImageFriendly/720514974/426/640/0/0/1/80/ResizeBestFit/0/FRU/8A97ECD86CA090DCC82A4B103773FF7D/30-may-banger-nova.jpg
lol lol
Cheers fella. That's one well prepped, motorsport weapon.
Not just any brain-dead oik could lovingly craft such a machine.
I hear it was a 15K mile, one owner car. Best start with a good base. Fair play to the lads, I say.
They get bought off morons who havent the skills to repair them.
As for this thread,absolutely laughable.Never thought id see the day mongs are crying over vauxhall novas.
Care that much about them,get em bought and fixed.
http://takeittothebr.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/logo.jpg?w=740&h=492
I don't mind rally, track etc, fcuking idiots smashing them up in stock, rods, grassers etc fcuks me off tho, pointless nonsense that some people have attempted to call motorsport
all escorts should be scrapped
Fair play? Stupidity more like
Terrible cars that someone along the line decided they were the 'heritage ' of motorsport lol
Ford, blue oval, pinto's with blower strapped on (YB ), whale tail spoilers, RS heritage shizzle, it's all crap, scrap the lot
Once again, i have to pull you up on something you said you would calm down on and not post slanderous comments about, (specifically the anti-grasser bit) this is the third time now, pack it in, or use the door.
And my input on this, is i think rally novas are ace, theyre out the being used by people who have the balls to send them on through gaps in trees that a lot of us would think twice about riding a pushbike through lol
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/spudly01/Rally%20yorkshire/25092010271.jpg
And whats wrong with this, this is a rally prepped nova, and i think its fantastic...
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/spudly01/Rally%20yorkshire/P9260451.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/spudly01/Rally%20yorkshire/P9260452.jpg
Very rare that a car would be finished to the standard/spec shown above, for the road. Same reason I love what the european hillclimbers come up with, some of their stuff is just pure nutty.
kent14sr
20-06-13, 06:46 PM
My former rally Nova;
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/cdburley/Picture016.jpg
And this was someone from my motor club enjoying theirs, and although dirty in the photo - the build quality and attention to detail put most road cars to shame!!
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg240/cdburley/malton_forest_rally_2005_1323.jpg
the build quality and attention to detail put most road cars to shame!!
Nail + hammer = head!
The white one i posted was one i saw at the rally yorkshire a couple of years back, it makes my antibes look like a right scrapper!
Once again, i have to pull you up on something you said you would calm down on and not post slanderous comments about, (specifically the anti-grasser bit) this is the third time now, pack it in, or use the door.
Ah yes sorry I forgot that unlike others I can't post opinions or so called slanderous comments like many above, I won't do it again :roll:
Ah yes sorry I forgot that unlike others I can't post opinions or so called slanderous comments like many above, I won't do it again :roll:
Id like to thankyou for saying that, but i know its crap even when youve said yourself that you wouldnt do it, you still do!
Andy has it right, its like groundhog day reading your posts, you even admitted this after the crap you got for branding grasstrackers as scum, the first time this came up, you even apologised and when reminded of that, you said youd calm down on the 'oh i hate fords and will brand them as crap every opportunity i get' but once again, thats a load of crap aswell!
rally novas are my favourite novas :)
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/BpEF0WkKGrHqYOKkIEuVS7cqOBLp1YmT80Q_12_zps011a714f .jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/BpEF0WkKGrHqYOKkIEuVS7cqOBLp1YmT80Q_12_zps011a714f .jpg.html)
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/metcalfe_zpsb8550695.png (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/metcalfe_zpsb8550695.png.html)
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/Munster_zps4964819d.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/Munster_zps4964819d.jpg.html)
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/photo214vj3_zps8e8470d8.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/photo214vj3_zps8e8470d8.jpg.html)
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/wallonie92_zpsbf9405ef.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/wallonie92_zpsbf9405ef.jpg.html)
Didn't know they rallied a nova pickup lol
Only for half a stage I'd say lol
Wow, that cage certainly did its job there didnt it, thats ace lol
Btw, this pic..
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/Munster_zps4964819d.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/Munster_zps4964819d.jpg.html)
Are they wider front wheels/brake cooling vents up front, or is he just losing his tyre?
Wow, that cage certainly did its job there didnt it, thats ace lol
Btw, this pic..
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/bodmin344/Munster_zps4964819d.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/bodmin344/media/Munster_zps4964819d.jpg.html)
Are they wider front wheels/brake cooling vents up front, or is he just losing his tyre?
i think there called wheel fans, theyre may be a proper name for them im not sure! seen them on lancia delta rally cars too, aid brake coolings
Thought it would be, as that corner doesnt look sharp enough to be pushing the tyre off the rim!
MiniManDan118
20-06-13, 07:20 PM
Just one thought...
Mk1, Mk2 Escort - remove their motorsport history and they are nothing more than just another car.
Nova - remove the motorsport history and they are nothing more than just a car.
Novas wouldn't have a following like they do if it weren't for their rallying heritage. And if every car was kept and restored can you imagine what a mess we'd be in. A 90's 5door Nova is hardly desirable, but they are a very competitive oval or grasstrack car. My short oval Mini was built from a scrapped shell, so it was off to heaven anyway.
kent14sr
20-06-13, 07:20 PM
The bottom one I posted above, was built with a shell from Simpsons years ago after a loom fire around the heater/wiper motor area. It was shotblasted, seam welded and then strengthened with a custom cage built by a guy called Ian Jemmison - a truly amazing craftsman. The welds were a work of art on their own. The attention to detail and quality was easily on par (if not better) than a works car and would draw more glances at a show (I reckon) than a standard Sport, SR or whatever.
The other point would be, that the car (at that time) probably wouldn't have been purchased by anyone from Simpsons - they were ten a penny at that time and there were far better ones at the time than a 1.0 base hatch with fire damage! Therefore it would likely have been crushed and gone forever.
paul james
20-06-13, 07:38 PM
The problem I have with motorsport novas isn't that they get used for such purposes (proper track and rally sorted novas are awesome, although grasstrack racing seems a waste of them to me) but rather that people do a half assed job of converting a Nova to use in motorsport, then try and sell them before using them for anything. So many Novas on ebay are ruined attempts at motorsport cars, its the new thing to do. Instead of Novas of old ruined with bad boy bonnets and a couple of grand worth of filler and bodykit, theres Novas with scaffolding poorely attached to the sides and a cage fitted into a shell full of unrepaired rust.
I very much doubt those people would stop modifying cars badly if there was no such thing as competitive motorsport, they'd just be badly prepped track cars, or chav wagons instead.
mk1nova_rich
20-06-13, 07:42 PM
Edd you are boring as ****
Whats the whole stigma of grassing is "bad" and "a waste" etc?
Do people not read threads anymore?
Most cars there are scrappers,mot failures etc bought for next to nothing,then enjoyed by people week in week out,all over the country,in a realistically affordable form of motorsport.
Heres my Nova Gsi stockhatch autograsser...
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/andyspics_album/grass.jpg
Scrap them all, fcuking addictive money pits
fuking sure, sick of the bast-ard of a car now lol
MiniManDan118
20-06-13, 08:00 PM
To everyone who has said grasstrack/short oval is rubbish, boring and not 'proper' etc etc, have you ever done it? Its a right hoot!
I have a Corsa B 1.6 that I paid £200 for and use it for Sandocross - grasstrack racing on the beach. Possibly the most amount of fun Ive ever had in a car (no innuendo intended there...). Very competitive, and surprisingly skillful if you want to be quick.
Don't judge a book by it's cover, go and have a go then tell me its boring.
Who ever can keep a Nova on the road, track, oval, hats off to them all otherwise it would just be the big scrap yard in the sky for them all.
When somebody puts good money in to a track,autotest, nova the last thing on there mind is bending it
Here's some incar footage from my grasser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0-qJ2pZWI&feature=youtu.be
mikey093
20-06-13, 08:36 PM
I personally prefer to see a nice standard classic nova on the road, but there is nothing cooler than track and rally novas. I love watching old footage of mcrae smashing his sport all time favourite
Here's some incar footage from my grasser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0-qJ2pZWI&feature=youtu.be
What the hell is that flying out the gate?!!!
lol It's an Impreza turbo, there's two out this year
Wouldn't life be boring if we all liked the same stuff. Personally I prefer seeing novas being abused on track/grass/ovals/strips.
Ps stupid roll cages and daft bucket seats ftw. :)
my 2 novas, you don't get to do this on your way to work, motorsport ftw!!!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283850_489601474402304_1264128818_n.jpg
my RWD one
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/551408_10200425695357708_662685486_n.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6vPN_54tY
novasrikev
20-06-13, 09:11 PM
my 2 novas, you don't get to do this on your way to work, motorsport ftw!!!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283850_489601474402304_1264128818_n.jpg
my RWD one
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/551408_10200425695357708_662685486_n.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6vPN_54tY
i like the white one jonn looks ace
Reading through the discussions here can I bore you with my opinions going back to the original post......that's a yes please you said, ok here goes lol
I have a number of Novas (and minis) in different states. The reason being that I bought most of them when they were cheap and almost unwanted cars, thus why many have been abused over the years. This happens to any mass produced car that is reasonably good in standard form and has the chassis ability to cope with more power. My 1984 swing had been "chavved up" as the expression was and had been mucked about with so much, I bought it for £20. The original stuff was still there too, they had tried to xe it, unsuccessfully, at the time I wanted an early mk1 so the xe was gotten rid of (things change) and the previous owner had tried (there are pics somewhere) to refit the 1.0....a bit of a joke anyway, over a number of years I have put it all back together and recently got hold of the delco remmy dizzy which was the only elusive part. I had to work but got my original early 1.0.
The original mk1 SR was £620 with t and t, I bought 2 mks2s for £100 with ta and t (both scrapped, rustbuckets). I could go on about the other cars but it would be even more boring. As far as the minis go, the cooper was 1300 and the 1972 project (still a project) was £25, really just a gratitude. As with the Nova prices, look at the prices for these in reasonable condition now.
The other side of the coin is, last year for a few hundred pounds I bought a 1.4 Nova which had been stripped and basically wrecked by trying to convert it as a sprint/hillclimb car. I built it up as a track car and it did fine for a year, Now it has been converted to a sport replica (apart from seats if anyone has some). So it is possible to rebuild them if you want and can be bothered.
This car was removed from beng a track car as I bought a road xe. It is a mk2 and I have a 1.2i engine etc so it could be converted to original but, for me I wanted this for track use. Interior partially removed, suspension/wheels changed etc. Some welding, Roll cage, bucket seat and so on.................we all know the drill (yes a drill was used for some of the work). Anyway, the car is currently a mild track car but, as all the stuff is here, it could easily be converted back, if I really wanted to drive a car with an engine as inspiring as a fiat pandas (I hate the 1.2i).
So (are you yawning or asleep yet?) When you buy a car, it is up to you to do as you wish. Novas/escorts/Minis are amongst the best known successful underdogs in motorsport and all have quite a heritage. They were also plentiful cars and as they got older became cheap and pretty much unwanted. Therefore at times they have been ideal for use for amateur and unsuccessful attempts at motorsport vehicles. Rememeber, they could have been just run into the ground instead of raced? Without the motorsport edge these cars will have been pretty much forgotten.
I thought I was the only Nova nut till I went to Knockghill and saw that they are good cheap cars 20 years after production ended to use for motorsport. I loce the sport side but personally also love original base models in original form, so I see the value in botrh as do many people judging from the massive hike in prices in recent years.
Whilst we may not like someone "chaving up" a 1.2 with all the spaceship type body kits etc. If the car is worth it, at some point an enthusiast will put it back as it should be, if it is not worth it (mk2 1.2is come to mind personally) then they will dissapear.
novasrikev
20-06-13, 09:22 PM
as for the other comments i would rather see a nova in good use rather than in a scrap yard or sat in somones garden being left to rot in peace
but at the end of the day its the owners property and they will do what they want with it
even if we dont agree with what they are doing
as for fords each to there own i like them would not own one though far far too much money for what they are
id say rally and smash the fcuk out of all novas lol
novasrikev
20-06-13, 09:31 PM
id say rally and smash the fcuk out of all novas lol
lol lol lol
turbojolt
20-06-13, 09:58 PM
the auto grass nova lads are great....................I still wouldn't sell my shell to one of them tho lol
CBA to read the whole thread....
Its a car, get over it. The more that get scrapped/crashed/rolled etc the more money existing ones are worth.
the auto grass nova lads are great....................I still wouldn't sell my shell to one of them tho lol
Course you would.
Id sell my pride and joy for somebody to blow up!
I don't care aslong as I got whatever price I wanted
turbojolt
20-06-13, 10:05 PM
Course you would.
Id sell my pride and joy for somebody to blow up!
I don't care aslong as I got whatever price I wanted
no, because my 5 year plan evolves selling it to some one to finish, then I buy it back lol
mk1nova_rich
21-06-13, 07:38 AM
Im sure 5 years of grassing would finish it off lol
8valve-craig
21-06-13, 08:57 AM
Interesting thread. I personally preffer to see a nova which has been prepared and used, as opposed to one which is polished and garaged for its once yearly trip to billing.
I dont actually get any pleasure atall from looking over a concourse Sport, but could spend hours looking at a well specced competition car.
Its also easy for those who hate them to forget that the wealth of spare parts we are used to are a direct result of these cars being stripped for motorsport use, so ask yourselfs if you would preffer to pay 3 times as much for parts and have your pride and joy de-valued due to the increasing numbers of road vehicles.
My two pence worth. I have a period group a nova built in the mid '80's and spent most of its life rallying as a sport. It was because of cars like mine that I grew to love novas. Imprezza, lancer, old school quattros, anything ford rs, in fact anything WRC or touring car for that matter, it's because of Motorsport success people develope an allegiance to these marques. My nova stands me an absolute fortune. My gearbox and diff alone cost two grand, more than I have paid for any of my daily drivers over the last 10 years. I love my nova. Its a rally car, but in my opinion its by far one of the best novas around over here in N.I. The nova sport was developed for rallying, and aimed at that market. My new rally car, a samba rallye is going to put my nova to shame, it's ultra rare (not many left, good luck trying to find one) and its simply stunning. It's full Peugeot talbot sport works spec. Would it turn a head in standard form? Not likely. As a rally car? Hell yeah!
What Edd said lol,
Watching things like this made my mind up that I wanted a GSI nova
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm22yJuyAtk
blue_peg_16v
21-06-13, 11:31 AM
The more they rally the rare they become the more mine is worth keep going lol
Higgins can steer. I'll stick pics up when the yoke is finished.
steviegsi
21-06-13, 12:26 PM
Once again, i have to pull you up on something you said you would calm down on and not post slanderous comments about, (specifically the anti-grasser bit) this is the third time now, pack it in, or use the door.
But we can all still slag Novas at every available opportunity , yes?
how dare they rally such a rare and iconic car.... how dare they!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRkHXMHqFo
how dare they rally such a rare and iconic car.... how dare they!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRkHXMHqFo
Meanwhile in Bulgaria ,,,,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA3-wXXW6ok
At first glance I thought the title was 'I really hate Novas'.
I would agree to that, yes
At first glance I thought the title was 'I really hate Novas'.
I would agree to that, yes
I thought exactly the same thing lol
I agree that Motorsport has cut the numbers of cars on our roads. I used to race in a fiesta one make series, for mk1 and 2's. At that time there was a mk1 or 2 on every street in Ireland. Afte a few years they disappeared. Same story with the nova. 6 or 7 years ago Alltrak and the Rallysport Association began a stage rally series for novas, with a 1200 class for juveniles and another for adults running the exact group n specs as for the homologated nova swing. Standard 1.2s/st engine, single downdraught pierberg, 4 speed with no close ratio cluster etc, and the normal 1400 modified class. Wasn't long before cars started to dry up. What was again on every street became few and far between. Spares started to fetch a premium, and pop on panel costs went through the roof. After a while when parts became too hard to find the organisers allowed single point injection cars to run. Novas completely disappeared with cars being written off (every race day there was a car or two biffed beyond repair) with cars being bought to break or repair others. Eventually the organisers allowed corsa b 1.2 8v's in the class. Within this last year they have allowed corsa c's so long as they run the 1.2 8v unit. So the series has wiped out standard run of the mill cars. In my experience not too many novas in the series began their life as desirable SR's/GTE's or GSI's. Nearly all began life as 1 litre or 1.2's. The decrease in numbers on the road has certainly increased the market value of quality novas on the road.
phunkynova
21-06-13, 05:37 PM
Dear Mr Monty-trials
You do know that Vauxhall and Opel where actively involved and supported the use of the Nova and Corsa A model in rallying, even bringing out a rally special to be use in international motosport.
So there for it is their natural place just as much as on the road.
We do not build a rally car to smash it up and do our best not to do this but some time it happens.
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/phunkferret/Car%20in%20action/ak_a_319_shiel_1.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/phunkferret/Czechring/387135_10152067037385556_758052632_n.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/phunkferret/old%20photos/RALLYX_P.jpg
But we can all still slag Novas at every available opportunity , yes?
I think youve not understood the meaning behind that comment, long story and for Edd's sake ill not go into it!
Grass track everything!!!!
Grass track everything!!!!
Should come up here to the next meet.
Most are novas.class 2 is dominated by novas
fact. people buy novas.
fact. some people compete with them
fact. its their choice...
just wait till the classic rally people allow sports back on the stages.......
Grass track everything!!!!
#onelastmomentofglory
fact. people buy novas.
fact. some people compete with them
fact. its their choice...
just wait till the classic rally people allow sports back on the stages.......
Oh I can't wait! I'll have two to play with.
to be honest, the vast majority of novas weren't rallied, yet they still ended up being crushed....
If they hadn't been good to drive for what they were at the time and rallied in the early days, would this club exist?
Southie
21-06-13, 08:40 PM
Anything to do with rallying I enjoy, I've watched it for years WRC to local events, but seeing a Nova getting a good hiding still brings a smile to my face as its a Nova regardless.
My old SR which I'd spent thousands on eventually got to the point of not being MOT road worthy so I sold it to a grasser lad, I didn't care as I know it would live on.
i had cod and chips with a pickled onion tonight
i had cod and chips with a pickled onion tonight
cheeseburgers with onion rings in.
#lovebeingfat
Southie
21-06-13, 09:23 PM
It's amazing how many threads on here nowadays that could be a decent discussion turn into absolute shîte :roll:
Edd - ford
Spud - retaliate
Edd - more retaliation
Andy - yet more retaliation
Spud backs up Andys retaliation
Merris - random balls
Southie - witters
Pistol Pete
21-06-13, 09:31 PM
i love lamp
mk1nova_rich
21-06-13, 09:45 PM
cheeseburgers with onion rings in.
#lovebeingfat
12oz cheeseburger with onion rings and bacon
#lovebeingevenfatter lol
Southie
21-06-13, 09:50 PM
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee331/jw_elder/ibtl4.gif
It's amazing how many threads on here nowadays that could be a decent discussion turn into absolute shîte :roll:
Edd - ford
Spud - retaliate
Edd - more retaliation
Andy - yet more retaliation
Spud backs up Andys retaliation
Merris - random balls
Southie - witters
You missed Limp trolls a bit.
and me explaining how it was shyte when it happened 25 years ago too.....lol
And all my bollox ramblings thrown in for good measure.
You missed Limp trolls a bit.
On my second attempt, I managed to decipher that. x
I deserve my exemption from the original list. :yayNBC:
It's amazing how many threads on here nowadays that could be a decent discussion turn into absolute shîte :roll:
Cmon south]the thread was absolute ****e as soon as the op pressed post man
Edd slavered about crap as per and got clamped.thats it.
He knows he the enemy in threads like this,i don't dislike him,i dislike his opinion on some things,equality and diversity etc....
12oz cheeseburger with onion rings and bacon
#lovebeingevenfatter lol
you bloody hero!
Edd slavered about crap as per and got clamped.thats it.
http://mimg.ugo.com/201109/8/5/9/207958/cuts/4-clamps_480_poster.png
Brick!
I think the Stella cidre bloke looks like Brick.
just had a curry, wish id got chips aswell ffs
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