fitting a oil pressure guage

[chrisd1986]

right ive got a set of 6 pot clocks on the way and once ive gor the right sensor for the 1.2 st engine how do i wire it in?

[Edd]

plug in clocks and connect the two wires to the sender, presuming your loom has both wires

and a 12st sender wont be the correct one

[chrisd1986]

plug in clocks and connect the two wires to the sender, presuming your loom has both wires

and a 12st sender wont be the correct one

i doubt it as its a reg and as stated in original post ive got to get a sender unit

[Edd]

have look to see if the wire is taped to the wire that currently goes to the sender you currently have fitted mate, on a old C reg of mine it was taped up near the sender

if it aint study haynes and you'll have to run a new wire

[chrisd1986]

im no good with wiring digrams, were is the sender on the engine, ive not had a look yet

[chrisd1986]

and will the volt meter automaticly work like the rev counter?

[Edd]

yep

when you take your clocks out you could look on the plug that goes into the clocks to see if there is the single wire that will plug into the clocks for the oil pressure

[chrisd1986]

will do when i pop them out, were is the sender unit on the engine?

[Edd]

Back of oil pump

[chrisd1986]

i take it thats on the back of the block?

[Edd]

Back of block, bottom corner, just behind cam belt cover, take front drivers wheal off you'll be able to see it

[chrisd1986]

cheers bud i will have a look tomorrow

[chrisd1986]

right ive wired in the rev counter and its working perfectly but the when i wired in the oil pressure guage and turned the ignition on it went as far as it could go and wont come back to zero again

[Novasport]

Have you fitted an oil pressure sender unit to the oil pump or have you just wired it into the original pressure switch?

[chrisd1986]

no ive fitted a proper sender that i got off edd, and put the extra wire in from the clocks to the sender i had to do the same for the rev counter

[chrisd1986]

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb368/chris_d_1986/20130417_143731_zps1c43de48.jpg

[Edd]

Got the two wires that go to the sender the right way round?

[brainsnova]

Earthing the oil pressure wire would max out the gauge so it faulty or wired wrong

[Edd]

I have had the sender working fine on my Sport before, is the plastic track on the back of the clocks in good condition? That can cause alsorts of problems if it's cracked/broken

[Graeme]

You need a two wire switch mate and run a cable to the clocks

[chrisd1986]

You need a two wire switch mate and run a cable to the clocks

that is what ive done matey, i got a 2 wire switch off edd, ran the extra wire to tbe clocks and it done that strait away and it dosnt go back dow when the ignition is off

[Graeme]

It's open circuit if it goes to the maximum and doesn't return

[chrisd1986]

It's open circuit if it goes to the maximum and doesn't return

what dose that mean?

[meritlover]

i think he's saying :

high resistance = top scale
low resistance= bottom scale

[Edd]

Sounds like the gauge is fcuked or wiring to me

[meritlover]

test the sender in case you've bought a dud.

check you've wired it in correctly too

[chrisd1986]

its wired in correctly as you cant exactly go wrong i added a wire from the clocks to the threaded part of the sender unit. im more puzzled because the oil guage stays in the max position when the ignition is off

[meritlover]

oh well the wiring is obviously fine then.

perhaps there is a problem with the gauge? try taking it apart and seeing if the needle is just stuck.

[chrisd1986]

done that i moved it back witbout any resistance and it done same again. looks like ive got dud clocks

[meritlover]

did you try it when you disconnected both the wires from the sender?

[Southie]

I bought a twin sender once for mine brand new off Etat and thought that was faulty, it did similar to yours, I swapped the positive and negative around and then it worked... worth a try.

[chrisd1986]

nice one, was yours pre wired or did you have to run a extra wire?

[meritlover]

is there an oil light on the clocks as well as the gauge?

sounds like the wires are on the wrong way. as said earlier, top scale on the gauge is low resistance so if it was connected to the switch for the light then it would have a similar affect.

[chrisd1986]

tbe light comes on and goes off when tbe engine is started as it should

[Southie]

I had to run an extra wire, I had a C16xe in and wanted MK1 6 dials also.

[meritlover]

tbe light comes on and goes off when tbe engine is started as it should

yes but does the gauge go top scale with both the wires on the sender disconnected? or both the wires pulled to earth?

[chrisd1986]

yes it goes to the top of the scale if both wires are plugged or u plugged. ive tested my wire aswell to make sure it didnt have a break in it and its fine. iv made my mind up that the clocks are dud and im gona see if i can test the sender on somone elses car if it was anything else the guage would go back to zero when the ignition was turned off and it dosnt

[Graeme]

Put a wire from the spade connector on the clocks to a good ground and it should stay on minimum

[brainsnova]

If the gauge is stuck you could unscrew the front of the clocks and manually push the needle to zero

[meritlover]

there are some more things you could try.

[chrisd1986]

If the gauge is stuck you could unscrew the front of the clocks and manually push the needle to zero

done that and it dose the same thing

[meritlover]

have you done what Graeme suggested?

[chrisd1986]

have you done what Graeme suggested?

not at this time of night

[Benn]

Have you taken one of the wires off the sender? Try the one off the threaded bit...

[meritlover]

not at this time of night

ye but it wasnt that time of night when it was suggested. lol

[chrisd1986]

yes mate ive unplugged it and plugged it back in and still no difference

[Southie]

So as its still light... have you tried what Graeme said and did you try swapping the wires over at the sender end like I suggested?

[Benn]

Just the one?

[Southie]

This comes to mind at the minute:

http://www.signsbypost.com/lg_images/PISSING-IN-THE-WIND-0428.jpg

[Graeme]

Five pages of nothing for a fooking oil gauge, I've seen short build threads, is it sorted?

[Southie]

Five pages of nothing for a fooking oil gauge, I've seen short build threads, is it sorted?

Speaking of build threads, how's that saloon of yours lol

[Graeme]

It's got a fancy new bumper and cooler combo, a set of stubbies and a cool louvres bonnet on the way but nothing has changed with the shell, I have found someone to soda blast the bay, just waiting for a clear weekend to drag it down there, still not decided on a colour but that seems a million miles away at the mo

[Southie]

I need to see it one day lol I've more chance of buying another Nova though lol

[Graeme]

True dat

[Benn]

It's got a fancy new bumper and cooler combo, a set of stubbies and a cool louvres bonnet on the way but nothing has changed with the shell, I have found someone to soda blast the bay, just waiting for a clear weekend to drag it down there, still not decided on a colour but that seems a million miles away at the mo

Needs a build thread....

[Southie]

Needs a build thread....

Has he fit an oil sender though?

[meritlover]

Five pages of nothing for a fooking oil gauge, I've seen short build threads, is it sorted?

Lol lol lol lol lol lol

[chrisd1986]

Five pages of nothing for a fooking oil gauge, I've seen short build threads, is it sorted?


nah mate i think the guage is fecked so im getting a new one once my paypal account is sorted. the rev counter works after i wired it in and ive tested my wireing and its fine so im getting a guage as its cheeper than a sender and if its not that then it must be the sender

[mowgli]

you really should be testing the sender with a multimeter first. i guess taking the wires off, meter on resistance setting & earth it on the engine with an assistant working it inside the car should tell you if it works

[chrisd1986]

ive not got a multi meter or access to one

[mowgli]

also if the gauge isn't actually connected, it simply reads max.

[chrisd1986]

also if the gauge isn't actually connected, it simply reads max.

i know that but it is connected and ive tested my wiring which is ok and the oil light comes on and goes off as it should and the wires are on the correct teminals

[Southie]

i know that but it is connected and ive tested my wiring which is ok and the oil light comes on and goes off as it should and the wires are on the correct teminals
Did you try swapping the wiring to the connections on the terminals though?

[chrisd1986]

yes

[meritlover]

this needs to be fixed before any more server space is wasted.

[chrisd1986]

can a mod lock this please.as im just going to replace componets now

[Southie]

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/grhemmings/ibtl.gif

[meritlover]

Have you measured the voltage on both wires at the sender?

[Southie]

Have you measured the voltage on both wires at the sender?

He's not bothered by the sounds of it, if the new parts don't work though I suspect this issue will be back.

Good luck Chris though ;)

[chrisd1986]

Have you measured the voltage on both wires at the sender?

as said before i dont have a multi meter but ive used a test light and im getting a power feed off the terminals

[chrisd1986]

He's not bothered by the sounds of it, if the new parts don't work though I suspect this issue will be back.

Good luck Chris though ;)


thanks matey and if they dont work i will burn them lol, i only bought them as my fuel guage didnt work when i got the car and these popped up

[Southie]

Chris go and buy a multimeter it's something that comes in handy, it may save you a few quid on buying another knackered dash or oil sender:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TMDM219.html?source=adwords&kw=&gclid=COjvzrq517YCFfLKtAodC3IA3A