waxoyl question

[chrisd1986]

right i got a bargain on a galon of waxoyl but i dont have the spray gun, can i just brush it on or do i need the gun to do it?

[meritlover]

spray is best but a pain.

but obviously brushing it on provides better protection than none at all.

[chrisd1986]

spray is best but a pain.

but obviously brushing it on provides better protection than none at all.

it just that it says you have to spray it, i cant see it making much differance how you apply it unless there trying to make more money

[meritlover]

spray leaves a thicker coat, but you cant work it into corners like you can with a brush. You really need both.

xxx

[chrisd1986]

i can always put an extra coat on xx

[meritlover]

ye it is quite cold today.

[chrisd1986]

depends on what part of the country you are, the sun is quite warm today were i am

[meritlover]

the sun is always thousands of degrees centigrade.

[chrisd1986]

i can always count on you to cheer me up xx

[nova_niek]

If you get a chance, heat up the lot before you spray it in every possible hole you can find. Makes it more runny, which helps. Besides, there's areas you simply can't access with a brush. Unless you're only doing the floorpan, of course. Some time ago I read an article on Mike Sander's Fett (German stuff) and that needs be applied at over 100° C otherwise it's just too thick. Waxoyl is nowhere near as thick, obviously, but with it being more runny it's easier to apply. Hope this helps.

[chrisd1986]

cheers, im only gona be doing the floor pan, behind the wings, inside the doors, behind the rear quarters, and the inner arches behind the boot trim, in the rear arches, behind the grill bumpers and headlights

[L14MNP]

Waxoyl is ****e.

Bilthamber is where it's at.

[craig green]

I'd take it to a carboot sale & try & get my money back by selling it on.

[chrisd1986]

it not going to be used as a daily over the winter but some protection is better than none, plus im now jobless so it will have to do

[Dan Stanley]

Whats with all the horror stories of Waxoyl?

I didn't have much luck with the proper spray gun so I used a spray bottle from an empty household cleaner. Dilute it with white spirit, as per the instructions on the can and it worked a treat. The gallon can needs to sit in a bucket of hot water for a while and I kept the spray bottle warm by blasting it occasionally with a heat gun. Once it's cooled and gone solid again it blocks the spray bottle, so just keep an eye on it.
Its great for the inside of doors and similar.

[L14MNP]

It's just crap compared to other available (similar or lower priced) options.

Seems to me like it was bascially the only choice at one stage, and they just haven't moved with the times.

Get some Bilthamber Dynax S-50 cavity wax. You can get 5 litres for £40. True, this is more expensive than Waxoyl, but not every option is.

As CG says, carboot it to some old boy with a Morris Oxford. You may as well just spray the cavities with used engine oil - now that's cheap! (pretty decent too)

[chrisd1986]

im gona do the floor pan of my golf with a brush this week ive got the tin warming up on the radiator ready for tomorrow

[L14MNP]

i'm not a big fan of brushing new underseal over old either tbh. That can cause more problems.

I would fill a bucket with boiling water and stand the tin in it just before use. Dunno if the radiator will be up to it.

[Andy]

Waxoyl is muck unless its in cavities or inside door skins etc.
Its easy to brush about though.

[chrisd1986]

i'm not a big fan of brushing new underseal over old either tbh. That can cause more problems.



how?

[chrisd1986]

i dont know if it makes any difference but im using clear waxoyl

[L14MNP]

how?

Peel some of the current stuff off. The steel will be surface rusted underneath it.

[chrisd1986]

i was gona get the wire wheel on the grinder take it back to bare metal, underseal it, paint over that in the wheel arches and then put waxoyl on top to finnish it off

[meritlover]

waxoyl in wheel arches is pointless, it gets blasted off the first time you go out in the rain. Use stone chip or under seal in exposed areas.

use waxoyl on the inside of the panels/cavities.

[L14MNP]

You want to etch prime bare metal too, otherwise it's a waste of time.

Good plan to bear metal it though. It's the only way if you want the car to last.

[chrisd1986]

thats the plan, ive got the time and ability to do it, the cavitys look mint in the rear as i think its had a pannel put in after a shunt hence why ive got a A reg nova with a mk2 tailgate