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ive got problems starting my 1.5 diesel van and i believe i have traced it to be my diesel pump anyone know of a way to rebuild it at home or is it a definate specialist job or replacement pump if so any suggestions for a supplier near the cambridgeshire area
there are enough bosch diesel injection places about.. but get your injectors checked too
or put a wanted ad up on here for a s/hand one.
staggy_gsi
09-03-13, 09:41 PM
What makes you think its the diesel pump?
Asa-James
09-03-13, 10:40 PM
i know its not local, but Diesel Bob in preston seems to be a genious, and reasonably priced as well. usually has all the spares to rebuild, and sends the stuff back to you pretty quick. we send all our diesel stuff to him from work, injectors, pumps etc, even had my dads mondeo injectors rebuilt and recoded for a very agreeable sum
meritlover
10-03-13, 08:49 AM
What makes you think its the diesel pump?
+1
took the feedpipe from filter to pump off covered the hole with my fingers and got a mate to turn her over to find no sucking
take the return pipe off, reconnect the feed pipe & try it. diesel injection pumps aren't exactly like an airport fire truck, they only suck a tiny amount, and it takes ages to bleed a bosch pump thru after a filter change
by return pipe you mean tank return pipe? i haven't changed the filter as yet it was going to be my next thing to do. seen as i can't get one today is there a way of cleaning it enough to get a cough from the engine? just to confirm it is the filter thats blocked
its more likely the filter than the pump.. it is actually quite possible to get the filter so blocked that it will run the pump totally dry.. we had it with a 16 ton excavator fitted with a large 4 cylinder isuzi engine (basically a very big 1500), and had to prime the pump with grease (a very old trick) to get it to pull diesel up the lines.
hmmm ok so how would i go about priming the pump if i change the filter. as far as i'm aware the filter has done 72000 miles. i'm going to get a new filter either way. and why would i not get any suction when i put my finger over the pumps intake?
like i said, if the innards of the pump are dry, it simply won't suck, gear pumps don't pump when dry, they need priming. pour some fuel down the pipe into it, it will only take a tiny amount, like a few cc's of fuel.
i can't remember if the filter is a spin on mounted vertically, but if it is, you can fill it up too, it will help to get the pump filled quicker
when i took the pipe off that goes from the filter to the pump i could see fuel at the top of the filter so i know that is filled but the pipe didn't have anything in it i then replaced the pipe onto the top of the filter and took the pump end off and there was a little bit of fuel in the pump and as my mate cranked her it dissapeared into the pump and didn't return. then i put my finger over the pump intake hole and my mate cranked her and i couldn't feel any suction again. this is what leads me to believe it's the pump. but i'm hoping it's not as it looks a right cow to get out to replace it or get it reconditioned. i have found this EBAY LINK REMOVED so i could recondition it myself but i wouldn't know if anything is broken inside the pump if i do take it to bits.
the filter sits vertically on the drivers side inner wing by the strut top. pics to follow just waiting for them to upload
ring these people before buying any kits off the internet, injection pumps are tricky to fix.
http://www.cambsinjectorservice.co.uk/contact
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/th_video-2013-03-08-13-27-09_zps9ccfeb21.jpg (http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/video-2013-03-08-13-27-09_zps9ccfeb21.mp4)
this is a short video of number 4 injector. it is upside down as it's the only way i could wedge my phone in the engine bay.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/2013-03-10130652_zps47b09c07.jpg
this is the pump with the intake pipe off where i put my finger and found no suction
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/2013-03-08151144_zps0b27d230.jpg
the stop solenoid that i have refitted without the plunger and spring to eliminate this as a problem, but still no joy
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/2013-03-10130631_zps0dd0d0be.jpg
the fuel filter the front banjo is from tank to filter the top banjo is from filter to pump.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/2013-03-10130622_zps762ed754.jpg
and another one just to show location in the engine bay more than anything
ring these people before buying any kits off the internet, injection pumps are tricky to fix.
http://www.cambsinjectorservice.co.uk/contact
awesome i'll get in touch with these guys thankyou i haven't been able to find a local diesel place
staggy_gsi
10-03-13, 01:54 PM
Fit a piece of clear pipe between the filter and pump, and if you can get one, fit an in-line bulb primer too. Makes priming a fuel system soooooo much easier, and the clear pipe enables you to see if there is air in the system.
Once fitted, crack the injectors and pump the primer while your mate cranks it over and see if you get a good amount of fuel coming through. Also, to eliminate a blocked filter from the equation, simply bypass the filter and try run it like that.
never, ever, ever run a diesel engine without a filter.. ever
the problem with fitting a clear pipe is the banjo connectors it's not quite as simple as push fit connectors unfortunately and i don't have the kit to install banjos on any old pipe
staggy_gsi
10-03-13, 02:26 PM
I work at a diesel place, we do it all the time and never ever had a problem, ever. Im talking briefly, to eliminate a problem. The fuel pumps on them things can run on gravel ffs, a bit of unfiltered diesel for 2 minutes isnt gonna cause any grief.
I work at a diesel place, we do it all the time and never ever had a problem, ever. Im talking briefly, to eliminate a problem. The fuel pumps on them things can run on gravel ffs, a bit of unfiltered diesel for 2 minutes isnt gonna cause any grief.
sorry, but any number of things in the fuel tank can kill a pump. water & rust for a start.. you might have been very lucky, or have particularly clean diesel in your workshop, but i'd never recommend it.
i'll get a new filter as it was on my list to be replaced next anyway then i know it will not be blocked and if she starts i know i can leave her instead of disturbing the fuel system again to put the filter back in place. is there any particular way of ensuring i have no blockages in any of the pipework. my mate spoke to his neighbour who used to deal with plant diesels and he said about using an airline to blow down the fuel line to the tank and if we can hear bubbling in the tank then the line is unblocked but again i have the problem of the banjo connections to do this.
clean them off, and blow down them. ok, derv tastes awful, but gargling with something like irn bru will soon take the taste away...lol
lol is there any remedy you don't know lol
i've played with a lot of diesel engines.... its a farmer thing... we also have an ancient hyster forklift with a perkins 4 pot in, & the fuel tank is part of the chassis, so its impossible to remove without dismantling it.. it is also prone to sucking crap up the pipe.. usually when its too far from the air line to fix it quickly... so improvisation is the order of the day...
wish i had that sort of diesel knowledge I'm good with petrols but diesels seem to confuse me. hence why i'm stuck with mine
staggy_gsi
10-03-13, 05:32 PM
We had a combo 1.5td in a long time ago which wouldnt start. Turned out to be the filter housing at fault, it was drawing more air through it than fuel. So if you still cant get it going and cant fit clear pipe to check for air, try another filter head if you daren't bypass it.
one thing i have found weird is that i'm getting exhaust fumes out the tailpipe and there was no fuel when i took the banjo of the filter. surely if i'm getting exhaust fumes there must be fuel?
staggy_gsi
10-03-13, 06:49 PM
If theres air in the system, it will be getting fuel but not enough to start it. Same applies to a blocked filter. Does she fire off easy start?
haven't tried didn't think it would work for a diesel i'll have to get a can
easy start was invented for diesels
oh didn't know that :wall: i will definitely give it a go then. presumably if she will cough with easystart then that will help her drag some fuel back through and hopefully get her running again?
we have a daf lorry that when it gets left for a few days, it sometimes drains back leaving air in the fuel line. there is a hand primer, so it gets a couple of minutes of pumping, then if it doesn't fire, the easy start is used, and it does usually fire up, a main dealer mechanic showed us that trick. use it sparingly though
meritlover
10-03-13, 09:33 PM
Bradex kills diesels. Once you use it a few times it will need it for ever. The stuff detonates and wrecks the rings, plus people start to rely on it rather than fix the root of the problem.
It does sound like a priming issue. It would be odd for the car to drive in one day, turn it off and the pump simultaneously sh1t its self. But not Impossible.
Change the filter, prime everything, crack the injector fittings and crank it til the fuel comes through..re tighten and it should fire up.
Did the 1.5t not have a hand plunger pump or am I confused? I thought it was on the filter housing but from the pic it doesn't look like it.
Hand fill the filter bowl to make your life easier.
the 1.5 td might have a hand primer mine is the standard diesel and i haven't come across a hand primer. i will be getting a new filter tomorrow then trying it again
Bradex kills diesels. Once you use it a few times it will need it for ever. The stuff detonates and wrecks the rings, plus people start to rely on it rather than fix the root of the problem.
It does sound like a priming issue. It would be odd for the car to drive in one day, turn it off and the pump simultaneously sh1t its self. But not Impossible.
Change the filter, prime everything, crack the injector fittings and crank it til the fuel comes through..re tighten and it should fire up.
Did the 1.5t not have a hand plunger pump or am I confused? I thought it was on the filter housing but from the pic it doesn't look like it.
Hand fill the filter bowl to make your life easier.
ML, the whole ethanol kills engines thing is a bit misleading, as in canada, and arctic countries, a lot of vehicles come with an ethanol injection kit form the factory. my wife's uncle is in the chemical industry in the US & he contacted me a couple of years ago to see if i could point him towards any easy start manufacturers cos he had a load of it to sell.
people used to say you shouldn't use the choke, cos cars get addicted to it!!!!!!! so what do efi cars do?? they have a warm up cycle where they add more fuel...
most bosch rotary setups on cars & small plant rely on the pump to self prime.. but the Bay has loads of 'inline primer pump's listed for not much coin.
meritlover
11-03-13, 10:15 PM
its not ethanol that's the problem, its the Ether.
i'll only be using it to hopefully get her fired up this once. virtually everyone i speak to says its air in the fuel system so the easy start should get her to drag that air though and run on her own diesel then i won't need the easystart any more
meritlover
12-03-13, 03:10 PM
it will be fine. it just shouldnt be relied upon. Use new copper washers on your banjo's or aneal the old ones.
staggy_gsi
12-03-13, 06:15 PM
Just crack the injector pipes off and turn her over til you get fuel at all the injectors otherwise you could be there all day with the easy start lol
ive already got fuel at each injector just doesn't seem to be at any sort of pressure so hopefully the easystart will give her the cough of life she needs to drag the air through and start drinking properly
IT WORKED a sniff of easy start and she coughed and farted a huge whitey grey cloud and ran left her ticking over for a few mins then shut her down and tried to start her again and she fired up straight away. result! cheers for all your help guys
staggy_gsi
15-03-13, 07:32 PM
Nice one glad shes a runner again.
Now if it doesnt start in the morning you have a fuel leak back issue.....
how did you guess she wouldn't start in the morning gonna be renewing as many of the copper washers as possible and checking the filter head out today see if that will stop the air getting in. oh and put the stop solenoid plunger back
staggy_gsi
16-03-13, 05:13 PM
Make sure your leak off pipes are all up to scratch too, if theres any which look like theyre starting to perish or leak etc get em replaced!
If all else fails and its still not cured, you could fit one way valves in line. As close to the tank as possible, its a cheap fix and it works
now she wont run using easy start to start her and when she does she needs throttle input to keep her alive and she runs real lumpy
meritlover
17-03-13, 10:39 AM
If it wont run on easy start, it's broken.
meritlover
17-03-13, 12:44 PM
diesels only need fuel, compression and air in the right order to run.
if it doesn't run then one of those things is missing.
staggy_gsi
17-03-13, 12:45 PM
Still think its pulling air in....
meritlover
17-03-13, 12:46 PM
if it is then he needs to find where it's pulling air from and stop it from happening.
staggy_gsi
17-03-13, 01:55 PM
Obviously :roll::p
Have you even changed the filter yet? You never mentioned whether you had or not.
yep filter changed along with all the copper washers on the filter housing and the filter to pump hose ends
staggy_gsi
17-03-13, 07:33 PM
Leak off pipes all ok? They dont have to be leaking fuel to draw air, check for perished ends etc
leak off pipes are the ones around the injectors am i right that link all the injectors together? if so then they are all metal and seem in good condition
staggy_gsi
17-03-13, 09:26 PM
Yeah mate thats them, forgot theyre metal on those lumps tho. Injectors been out lately? Them metal leak offs can crack when disturbed. Im just trying to think of possible causes now lol. Id be tempted to fit one way valves in the feed and return and see if it cures it
injectors have only had the top union taken off to see if there is fuel getting to them and there is. i have not disturbed the injectors in any other way.
where can i get these one way valves. would i be able to fit an inline fuel pump on the feed end to make sure there is fuel getting to the mechanical pump? im just thinking if there is no fuel at the pump it won't have anything to pump so i would get the fuel starvation problem but if there is an inline pump to get fuel from the tank to the filter then the mechanical pump has fuel there to do its job?
staggy_gsi
17-03-13, 09:38 PM
These thing....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-one-way-valve-petrol-diesel-non-return-carb-alloy-10mm-tails-/350738770271?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_Boat_Engines _EngineParts_SM&hash=item51a9a8e95f
They do different sizes. We keep them in stock at work i think, we do use them quite a lot. If a customer cant afford to have us fault-finding to cue the problem, we can offer these as a cheap fix for them. Erm, i suppose you could fit an in line pump just to prime the system, wouldnt leave it running once the engine is started though...
this should be perfect for what i need shouldn't it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10mm-Fuel-Primer-PUMP-Diesel-Petrol-inline-non-return-/360389522654?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53e8e3b4de
priming pump and one way valve it'll solve fuel running back and i'll be able to prime my filter and pump
ok if i fit the pump i've found to the filter feed line and fit that valve you found to the tank return line then i should eliminate any problems of fuel starvation surely?
meritlover
17-03-13, 09:52 PM
Fitting a valve is not a solution. something has changed or failed.
you say you cracked the injector unions to see if there was fuel and there was? so why do you think there is still a fuel issue?
staggy_gsi
17-03-13, 10:00 PM
Yeah them priming pumps are ideal, we stock those too. But if the problem is somewhere between the fuel tank and the filter head, it wont solve anything. Thats why we fit them as close to the tank as possible so almost zero fuel can leak back.
Meritlover, its a cheap fix without spending a fortune replacing bits, thats all.
ok now i just need to measure the pipe size to get the right ones and i'm thinking of replacing the piping aswell so i know it's not the pipe perishing it is 20yro after all.
meritlover i have had her running since cracking the injectors i just had to start her on easystart.
staggy_gsi
18-03-13, 07:49 PM
Remember the return will be smaller than the feed.
i was going to measure each piece for diameter and length anyway but cheers for the heads up might see what the local place can do in there coloured braided fuel lines could be interesting and a little tougher than standard stuff
Count Vaux Alot
18-03-13, 11:17 PM
Have you tried running it straight from a can full of CLEAN diesel? As in straight to the pump?
I've had problems in the past with the fuel filter body moving as I've replaced the filter. You need to take the whole filter off of the strut top and clamp it in a vice, undo it all and check nothing has twisted/moved.
I always replace the fuel filter by removing the whole lot now.
i have completely stripped the filter top and replaced all the copper washers and resealed the rubber that was in good shape using a very light smear of black insta-gasket
meritlover
19-03-13, 09:50 PM
you shouldn't use instant gasket on or downstream of a filter as it will always find a hole to block.
thats why i used such a thin coat it was near on see through. i only used it to seal any possible tiny pits in either the rubber or the mating face
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Corsa-Astra-diesel-fuel-pump-/271175012887?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6362052006407692429%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D271175012887% 26
as much as this is listed as a turbo diesel pump can anyone say if it looks the same as a non-turbo pump from what i have seen of mine it looks the same.
it also looks alot different to the other pumps listed as turbo pumps on ebay, like this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-VAUXHALL-CORSA-1-5-TURBO-DIESEL-BOSCH-FUEL-PUMP-/350721560107?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item51a8a24e2b
Count Vaux Alot
19-03-13, 11:04 PM
The first one looks non turbo to me - there is no boost diagfram on top.
looking through his other items he has a diesel head and a boot lid from a 1.5 diesel nothing mentioned about a turbo on them so i have made him an offer and hopefully i can get it to have it refurbed and then ill have a spare
meritlover
20-03-13, 12:32 PM
have you confirmed that there are definitely no issues between the tank and the pump before you buy another unknown untested one?
can't see any problems such as split pipes or corroded/perished pipes and i'm getting the pump as a back up more than a replacement it's the only one i have seen since the start of this problem so i'm thinking that it will be easier to have this one i'm getting refurbed ready to be switched over instead of having to strip mine out first and if i get mine working then i have a known good one on the shelf aswell. i have a habit of collecting spare parts ready for something to break. i just haven't yet mastered which parts to collect lol.
i also have the correct haynes manual coming so that should help things.
really appreciate all this help guys.
is there any form of filter around the tank or is it just the one in the engine bay i'm wondering if i should take the filter feed off and drop it lower than the tank to see if any fuel comes out because surely if there is no fuel like that then that would be my problem (my gauge states just over 1/4 tank). if fuel won't come out like that then it won't feed the filter so that would be a good check for the feed line wouldn't it?
staggy_gsi
20-03-13, 09:51 PM
Not a filter as such, but the pick up in the tank may have like a gauze on the end of it. These can fill up with sludge and stuff, especially if run on 'cheap' fuel. Another way to check for fuel starvation is to fit one of those hand primers. If it doesnt refill when squeezed then you have a blockage. Similarly, if it feels like its filling too quickly and not chucking much fuel out, its drawing air in from somewhere
right so looks like i have some pipe inspections to do on my day off hopefully it'll be better weather than this last weekend.
oh how i miss my garage
meritlover
20-03-13, 10:48 PM
....These can fill up with sludge and stuff, especially if run on 'cheap' fuel.
what do you mean by 'cheap fuel'?
very true no fuel is cheap nowadays or do you mean red diesel. my van has no access to red, and it's an ex county council car so i don't think it has ever been run on red. plus i have used a dose of redex for a tank about 800 miles before these problems so i shouldn't have any gunk problems but it's always worth a look
meritlover
21-03-13, 09:53 AM
pull the fuel hose off the tank and stick it into a gallon can of fresh diesel and try a start then if you think its possible.
for anyone who still doesn't know... red diesel is the exact same stuff as derv, but with a red dye chucked in at the point of filling at the oil terminal. cheap diesel is the stuff from supermarkets, simply cos it costs less...
petrol on the other hand is a bit of a minefield.. supermarket stuff is usually lower grade than a decent 'known' brand, and gives less power & worse mpg
meritlover
21-03-13, 01:17 PM
Fuel from supermarkets is exactly the same grade, the only exception is that isnt blended with the same high-tech additives like optimax/ultimate etc
The base stock is every bit as clean as 'branded' fuel.
There is more chance in getting sludge from a 10 year old Shell garage than a 5 year old Tesco but even then, the quality of fuel in the UK is very very good.
staggy_gsi
21-03-13, 05:32 PM
for anyone who still doesn't know... red diesel is the exact same stuff as derv, but with a red dye chucked in at the point of filling at the oil terminal.
Still knackers high pressure pumps....
staggy_gsi
21-03-13, 05:36 PM
And by cheap fuel i was meaning stuff such as bio, marine/red, or the stuff you buy in a drum from a guy down the road....
I get offered cheap fuel all the time and i use it in certain things but it will cause problems in the long run
since i have had her she has only had shell standard diesel to drink
And by cheap fuel i was meaning stuff such as bio, marine/red, or the stuff you buy in a drum from a guy down the road....
I get offered cheap fuel all the time and i use it in certain things but it will cause problems in the long run
bio diesel would be ok in a nova diesel engine... modern common rail ones need to be designed for bio to work for any period of time..
the marine/red is fine, but illegal....
stuff in a drum bought for cash is probably full of crap, but filter it & leave it to settle & it would probably also be ok
staggy_gsi
22-03-13, 07:48 PM
Yeah a nova diesel engine would run fine on it. I was more meaning the fact that over long periods of time, it can clog the gauze in the tank, and indeed the fuel filter should be changed much more regular if run on bio.
As for red, apart from being illegal, its not suitable for common rail systems over a prolonged period of time. The dye makes it ever so slightly more 'abrasive' so to speak, and it does damage the pump which in turn damages the injectors.
Anywhoo, going slightly off topic here lol
As for red, apart from being illegal, its not suitable for common rail systems over a prolonged period of time. The dye makes it ever so slightly more 'abrasive' so to speak, and it does damage the pump which in turn damages the injectors.
well, we run both john deere tractors & jcb diggers with common rail, & they do fine on red diesel. oh, & they do astronomical engine hours..
staggy_gsi
22-03-13, 08:27 PM
I think agricultural systems are a bit different to road cars. Ive replaced countless pumps on road cars which have failed due to red. Its usually the main shaft which wears, then you end up with a tank full of metal filings and 4 blocked or knackered injectors. Keeps us busy though lol, no matter how many times you warn someone not to use it, they never listen til they end up with a four figure bill!
interesting.. agric systems will be much higher flow to a car system.. i'd have thought its more down to contaminants in the cans they are using... we had an incident where some alloy wheel cleaner was not cleaned out well enough from a 5 gallon drum & it killed 2 injector pumps
staggy_gsi
22-03-13, 08:54 PM
God knows what it is, ive always been told by my boss and a couple of other diesel specialists its down to the dye....
Theres a place not far from me where you can buy it straight from the pump, but obviously people dont stick the nozzle straight into their tank so i suppose it could be down to the drums their using too.
there is a story about a local large supermarket cold store.... for several months, an agency worker was filling up the derv tanks on the fridge wagons with the same pump he used to fill up the thermo-king fuel tanks.... so the whole fleet was running on red!!!! every little helps i suppose lol lol lol
staggy_gsi
22-03-13, 09:10 PM
Lmao!! lol
how would i check the feed from the tank to see if there is gunk there. would i have to drop the tank? or is it as simple as pulling the line off and taking a look? i really need my van now just checked the mot on my cav and it ran out yesterday :wall: and my vans mot runs out middle of next month with the tax ending end of next month :wall: really in the stuck now
staggy_gsi
24-03-13, 03:09 PM
Disconnect the lines and blow them out. Doubt the lines will be clogged tbh though
meritlover
24-03-13, 03:44 PM
how would i check the feed from the tank to see if there is gunk there. would i have to drop the tank? or is it as simple as pulling the line off and taking a look? i really need my van now just checked the mot on my cav and it ran out yesterday :wall: and my vans mot runs out middle of next month with the tax ending end of next month :wall: really in the stuck now
take the lines off the tank and stick it in a can of clean fuel
still yet to try anything (damn wet snowy weather) just had a thought would a blocked tank breather cause any problems with fuel draining back? i'm thinking along the lines of there being a vacuum caused in the tank from the vent being blocked and so the fuel isn't draining back it's being sucked back? if so where would i find the tank breather and can it be cleaned or replaced?
meritlover
28-03-13, 09:47 AM
its a long shot.
Surely the easiest way to prove it would be to remove the filler cap and test?
it only fails me once ive had it running and it's stood over night so i can't test that while its running.
i've got my hand priming pump with one way valve so i'm going to hopefully fit it tomorrow and see if i can get her to start without easystart and hpefully get rid of this problem once and for all. i'm also thinking of replacing all the fuel lines soon aswell as i've found some decently priced goodyear fuel pipe on the bay so i'll be renewing everything possible to cure this and to keep it gone. as much as she has only done 72000 miles she is still 20 years old so time must have attacked the piping in some way so with decent new pipes soon she can't complain just need the time, light and weather on my side to get them all measured up including the banjo connectors so i can get them all ordered.
meritlover
29-03-13, 07:30 AM
technically, any vacuum in the tank would act equally on the suction and return lines. Unless you had an air leak at the front somewhere then you wouldn't be able to induce a reverse flow.
OP about the banjo unions.. the fuel lines from the tank to the engine will be very low pressure, and if you cut the outer crimped piece off the unions with a hacksaw, the banjo end can be reused with a jubilee clip or similar to save you money
nice didn't think i could do that i was looking at getting new ones from the bay along with new hose and remaking every bit of fuel line possible just to make damn sure that it's not the pipes causing the problem
Jon_nova1
29-03-13, 11:45 AM
is this still going on? lol
Just buy 5 litres of diesel in a jerry can and stick two short hoses straight onto the flow/return and the other ends into the jerry can
meritlover
29-03-13, 05:15 PM
is this still going on? lol
Just buy 5 litres of diesel in a jerry can and stick two short hoses straight onto the flow/return and the other ends into the jerry can
:thumb:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/2013-03-29163454_zps51d0013b.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/Rage_1988/2013-03-29163632_zpsb97f8f2d.jpg
lol fed up of the crap weather stopping me sorting her out so i got this huge gazebo today and put the priming bulb on her found that the new copper washers on the pump end of the feed line from the filter was leaking slightly so renewed them again and rechecked everywhere for any signs of leaks didn't find any so tried starting her but could only start her on easy start so took her for a run to the petrol station and put £20 in to see if that will help just been back out to see if she will start when she is cold and she did so hopefully she will start in the morning
meritlover
30-03-13, 06:52 AM
Do the glow plugs actually work?
meritlover
30-03-13, 07:20 AM
have you pulled out each one to check it glows?
i dont understand how it cant prime with easy-start but not by cranking.
i dont understand how it can prime with easy-start but not by cranking.
i'm guessing you meant this..i think its a combination of low battery power & the speed of cranking the easy-start gives it.
meritlover
30-03-13, 04:30 PM
i'm guessing you meant this..i think its a combination of low battery power & the speed of cranking the easy-start gives it.
yes thats what i meant.
because....
The nova was designed to be self priming, hence why id didn't have a hand prime pump on it. The injection pump includes a lift pump for this very reason.
i've solved it finally after getting my new 'garage' i set about rechecking everything and put the old glow plugs back in and she fired up with 2 cranks so now i will be getting a refund on the new glowplugs and sourcing some better ones. the ones that have caused all this headache are motorcraft ones from ebay they lasted 150 - 200 miles.
cheers for all the help guys really appreciated just hope i can be of this much help to you all at somepoint
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