View Full Version : to keep or remove door locks??
turbo-boy
26-02-13, 10:49 AM
Whats Peoples opinions on removing door locks?I'm thinking of flushingone ony gsi or do I leave them standard?
meritlover
26-02-13, 10:53 AM
standard.
good doors are rare enough without hacking them about.
paul james
26-02-13, 11:05 AM
If the doors are getting resprayed anyway then its a good thing to do, it stops other people being so tempted to hack them about with a screwdriver.
I removed mine for the above reason.
I ground out the flush and refitted a lock on my car. Before that with the previous owner it meant crawling through the boot all the time....why would anyone want to do that?
BRoadGhost
26-02-13, 12:46 PM
How's putting a tiny piece of steel over a hole "hacking them about?"
Delock all the way.
if you weld the plate on the inside it would be easier to remove.
De lock, looks better. and for safty? Hahaaha my 94 year old gran could bend a nova door frame..
Marc, why didn't it have remote central locking fitted? the kit is about £4.
meritlover
26-02-13, 02:25 PM
How's putting a tiny piece of steel over a hole "hacking them about?"
because some of the abortions ive seen have been pop rivited, welded, filled, cut out the section and filled with a square plate. they certainly looked 'hacked about' to me. A complete waste of a door skin usually.
it adds vitually 0 to security, its still easier to smash the window or bend the frame anyway if you want in.
i like the classic look. i always think there looks something missing when theyre smooth. Just like it can look odd when theres no Vinyl on the B posts
so as per the question, my opinion is stick with standard.
turbo-boy
26-02-13, 02:47 PM
Anyone hav any pics with or without im in two minds what to do
meritlover
26-02-13, 03:22 PM
there are a couple simple ways which are perfectly reversable
one is to sit a disc of metal in the recess of the lock and skim over it with some mesh and resin on the back, then skim over the outside with polyester filler, sand flush and paint
Keep them.
Stop barrying these cars.
meritlover
26-02-13, 04:04 PM
Keep them.
Stop barrying these cars.
+1
paul james
26-02-13, 04:30 PM
it adds vitually 0 to security, its still easier to smash the window or bend the frame anyway if you want in.
You can say the same about any other security you can put on a Nova, an alarm, immobiliser, steering lock, removeable wheel etc some idiot who hasn't a clue can still just smash their way in. But having any of these things can at least put off potential theives, make them think twice about it or at least slow them down. Having no door locks suggests the car is protected in other ways too, as in its not just a standard car with nothing at all in place stopping them taking it.
there are a couple simple ways which are perfectly reversable
one is to sit a disc of metal in the recess of the lock and skim over it with some mesh and resin on the back, then skim over the outside with polyester filler, sand flush and paint
Do it properly or not at all, weld it up from the inside with a suitable disc of metal and skim with filler the outside, which is still just as reversable with a bit of effort.
novalovingned
26-02-13, 06:25 PM
Here you go mate. Heres my barried mk1 nova thats been de-locked.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/novalovingned/40ADEA90-159F-421D-A684-C055F1704B23-2902-000006054BD659CE_zpsf44261ca.jpg
smooth the passenger side only, like me :D
turbojolt
26-02-13, 06:43 PM
remove the door pins aswell makes it harder for the to open the door after popping the window
matthew172
26-02-13, 07:09 PM
removing door locks is seen as barry ???
paul james
26-02-13, 07:36 PM
removing door locks is seen as barry ???
Probably only by people who don't own a Nova any more and therefore don't have to worry about it going missing...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/31061_387240563774_1977730_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393725_10151065900638775_538788094_n.jpg
Probably only by people who don't own a Nova any more and therefore don't have to worry about it going missing...
I'm not a fan of modernising old cars. Yes you could argue improving security is the main reason for de-locking, but people also do it for looks. Same as filling over the original aerial hole, semi-smoothing tailgates etc.
The rest of the 80's/90's car world tends not to bother with this stuff anymore, and rightly so imo.
A lot on here still seem to have Nova's as their main/only car though, so feel the need to try and keep them current.
The 80's car I own is just as likely, if not more so to be nicked than a Nova, but I still have door locks.
So there goes that argument.
Face facts, they will never be very secure, and does anyone 'barrel' door locks any more anyway?
Mine had been de-locked very badly,you could look along the door & see the ridge where the lock used to be lol personally i like the look of the locks and think it looks better with them,here's a couple of before & after pics of mine,sorry about the first pic it didnt even have an engine lol
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/bigraf24/2B57DEA0-E602-474B-9B77-4806E5A44F16-1242-0000008789CA2AF1.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/bigraf24/44af7f1e.jpg
bazzap8389
27-02-13, 07:39 AM
Not a great quality pic, but this is mine delocked
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/nova/IMG_0811_zpsf04ccfc4.jpghttp://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu329/bazzap8389/nova/IMG_0811_zpsf04ccfc4.jpg
The 80's car I own is just as likely, if not more so to be nicked than a Nova, but I still have door locks.
So there goes that argument.
You don't care about your car being stolen so nobody else should? Good logic, end of argument, close thread lol
I'm sure threads crop up on here where someones screwdrivered the barrel, it's daft not to remove them if its being repainted.
turbojolt
27-02-13, 09:09 AM
You don't care about your car being stolen so nobody else should? Good logic, end of argument, close thread lol
I'm sure threads crop up on here where someones screwdrivered the barrel, it's daft not to remove them if its being repainted.
someone has had a go at one of mine! i would remove them but i cant be arsed to wire up central locking and door poppers lol
meritlover
27-02-13, 09:46 AM
Do it properly or not at all, weld it up from the inside with a suitable disc of metal and skim with filler the outside, which is still just as reversable with a bit of effort.
...not at all then, that was my original point
Yes you could argue improving security is the main reason for de-locking, but people also do it for looks.
Keep the lock, but disconnect it so its not functional. Cue TWOC'er spinning the lock round and round with a screwdriver lol
Each to their own IMO. But I quite like having locks in case my battery craps out and the remote central locking fails, which it has done a few times :( lol
Try no locks or boot lock/handle^ can be a nightmare if your battery dies..
meritlover
27-02-13, 12:42 PM
ye, the best way of securing a car is to ensure no one can get in it...including yourself.
weld the doors shut and plate over the windows.
Nothing you can do will stop some one getting in. Simple as that. If they can't get in they'll trach the outsides..
De-locking just looks better.
You don't care about your car being stolen so nobody else should? Good logic, end of argument, close thread lol
I'm sure threads crop up on here where someones screwdrivered the barrel, it's daft not to remove them if its being repainted.
No, I do. Seeing as there's only 220 or so left registered in the country, I'd be a fool not to.
Removing the locks takes away from the look of the car for me (unless it's fully euro etc).
I just don't see the point in doing it for 'security'.
I have door locks, a disclock and no loose valuables or modern head unit on display.
That's all you need imo.
I prefer to keep my 'classic' looking classic.
Try no locks or boot lock/handle^ can be a nightmare if your battery dies..
When I ran a fully smoothed car, I had two insulated cables connected to the battery, tucked up behind the bumper.
In flat battery situations, pull them down and jump stary the car/charge the battery.
Sorted.
TeddyThom
27-02-13, 01:49 PM
When I ran a fully smoothed car, I had two insulated cables connected to the battery, tucked up behind the bumper.
In flat battery situations, pull them down and jump stary the car/charge the battery.
Sorted.
Never thought of that haha.
Or crawl underneath and jump it from the starter live?
Bit more of a carry on than the emergency cables though. lol
ben doodar
27-02-13, 03:42 PM
Umm strange one this, im about to buy 2 doors for my nova and wondering if to de lock or not.
I think on a car that's been quite obviously modified and sprayed it looks ok. But I think it looks strange on a some what tidy and original gsi/sr etc. I saw a real tidy rs turbo the other day n thought wow that's tidy! Noticed it had been de locked and obviously resprayed n thought less of it knowing it wasn't original. If that makes sense.
I've de wipered the boot on my nova but will be keeping the boot lock and handle so if I decide to delock the doors I can still get in through the boot if the battery goes dead.
Whilst we're on the subject what peoples opinions on removing and smoothing the side repeaters?
meritlover
27-02-13, 03:48 PM
Whilst we're on the subject what peoples opinions on removing and smoothing the side repeaters?
same as before, dont unless it suits the age of the car.
do you plan re-locating them?
delocked certainly aint 'barry' lol
ben doodar
27-02-13, 04:18 PM
same as before, dont unless it suits the age of the car.
do you plan re-locating them?
No I wouldn't relocate them if I did remove them. Cars on a k plate so it's not exactly a early or rare car as such.
I saw a real tidy rs turbo the other day n thought wow that's tidy! Noticed it had been de locked and obviously resprayed n thought less of it knowing it wasn't original. If that makes sense.
Whilst we're on the subject what peoples opinions on removing and smoothing the side repeaters?
I agree with you. It ruins the look of an otherwise original car.
My RS1600i had painted door lock surrouds and I changed the locks because of it.
They're meant to be painted anyway, just should be a gunmetal type colour, not black.
Little things make all the difference to the appearance of a car.
Locks/handles/aerials/wipers/side repeaters/grille slats/amber indicators etc should be all be left as intended imo.
Most Novas, and other cars of the era don't lend themselves well to these things. The vast majority certainly don't suit LED's and other such things either.
It's strange to me, they're a rare sight on the roads, as are any cars with wing mounted aerials and side repeaters, old fashioned door locks etc and those are some of the features that make 'classics' cool.
Why (still) try and make it look like everything else on the road?
It's like face lifting your Nova to mk2 so it looks 'newer'. Zero point unless you really don't like the appearance of the mk1.
I changed my mk2 to a mk1, so I guess I will never fit in with the retro-fit DRL and LED crew here. lol
ye, the best way of securing a car is to ensure no one can get in it...including yourself.
weld the doors shut and plate over the windows.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Killdozer.jpg
lol
^ Marv still managed to get in though. lol
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