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Picked this up today.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20130203_113317.jpg
Got back and realised it was slightly longer than listed on ebay... Bugger, wanted to put it in the garage... Lightbulb!
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20130203_124523.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20130203_125945.jpg
Win
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20130203_134523.jpg
On with the nova
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20130203_134617.jpg
Parked.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20130203_135126.jpg
lol
looks "nice & snug" lol lol lol
lol, nice wall mod, hitch her in
phunkynova
03-02-13, 06:26 PM
You just need a ball hitch concreted into the ground outside and connect the trailer to it with a locking connector and no one will be able to nick it :thumb:lollol
I like the way you don't let small details like 'it won't fit' get in the way!
A+ for effort
meritlover
03-02-13, 06:55 PM
the built in compressor is an interesting feature.
I like the way you don't let small details like 'it won't fit' get in the way!
A+ for effort
Funk no, it was going in one way or another. Lol
Southie
03-02-13, 07:36 PM
I've now pictures in my head of someone trying to trailer your garage away lol
Thats how a man deals with a problem, bash a big fook off hole in it, problem solved lol
Just drive the thing to destination
Bloody trailer queens lol
Comfy seats, stereo, windows that open. Small comforts I miss when sitting in the nova for a couple of hours.
Lmao @ Edd commenting on someone driving their nova, how many miles you done in yours now lol
Bloody hell youre kidding, ive done about 3500 in mine, Hotbit has probably done more too :eek:
Nope not kidding lol
Taxing it end of the month tho, want to put a few 1000 on it this year, it's currently in many bits tho lol
Done at least 2k in mine last year. :)
Just checked, I've actually done 314 lol
womble sri
03-02-13, 09:35 PM
Brilliant lol
novalovingned
03-02-13, 10:00 PM
Superb effort :) are you going to be using the astra van as the tow motor?
blue_peg_16v
03-02-13, 10:25 PM
Über man points lol bodging at its best
Superb effort :) are you going to be using the astra van as the tow motor?
Yes, won't be the quickest "rig" in the world.
camels toe
03-02-13, 10:42 PM
Whats the trailor rated at weight wise? Id be careful of getting a tug from vosa as it looks big for the van too pull.
No plates but its not exactly heavy, no way it'll be over 1300kg with the nova on it.
brainsnova
03-02-13, 10:50 PM
I would of done the same but used a 5inch core drill and some accurate measuring lol
novalovingned
03-02-13, 10:52 PM
Yes, won't be the quickest "rig" in the world.
Have you weighed your nova/trailer yet mate? Iirc your limit is around 1100kg braked. I only know this because I have an astra van and looking for a trailer that will be light enough to be under the limit lol
Edit: someone beat me to it.
camels toe
03-02-13, 11:01 PM
As far as i know if its not plated vosa will go on what the tyres are rated at so make sure it hasnt got car tyres on and there rated at a decent weight.Remember it doesnt have to have the nova on to be over weight,they can still do you with an empty trailor.
Im not having a dig at you,just dont want you getting a hefty fine as the law on trailors is stupidly confusing these days. Its a big trailor so if vosa/cops do see you you might get a tug although i know people that couldnt care less and tow whatever they like and never get pulled.
How can they possibly do you for an empty trailer? As long as the trailer isn't over loaded, the axles aren't overloaded and the combined weight is less than on the van plates it'll be fine.
I could quite happily pull a 3.5t trailer that weighed 1t empty. Would be pointless as I could put funk all on it but I wouldn't be breaking the law.
novalovingned
03-02-13, 11:11 PM
Im not having a dig at you,just dont want you getting a hefty fine as the law on trailors is stupidly confusing these days..
Very true lol
Because I'm a youngster (25) I have to use the "caravaners loop hole" too lol
camels toe
04-02-13, 08:16 PM
They CAN AND WILL do you for an empty trailor. If the trailor is plated over your allowed weight for the car/van then the intention is there to load the trailor up to max. Seems you know it all though so all i can say is good luck to you but if i were you id be having a good read up on the new laws on the direct.gov website.
Novalovingned-how do you think i feel i passed my test august 1997 so just missed out on grandad rights. As i do alot of towing both farm stuff and cars i had to do my test. Im experianced with towing but that doesnt matter.Yet my mother who`s never towed a trailor before and passed her test in the dark ages can tow what she likes!
Do you actually know anyone/link me to an example of someone that has been done for driving with intent to overload? lol
Because if that's the case EVERY 4x2 arctic pulling a tri axle trailer is breaking the law.
camels toe
04-02-13, 08:44 PM
No i dont know anyone,and havent actually read of anyone being done for it.BUT then again its illegal to tow with a A-frame,so the internets says.Yet i dont know anyone who has been done for it or read anywhere of anyone who has. But i bet if someone posted up a picture of their new A-frame you`d get 50 people on here saying they`ll get done before leaving the street they live on and burn in hell. I did about 5k miles last year with the A-frame and not a single copper battered an eye lid.
When i did the trailor test i got afew lessons just so i was up to scratch with how they wanted us to reverse and park ect.The instructor was telling us that his mate who works on the vosa roadblocks loves doing people for the new laws as its easy pickings.He said it was the best thing ever as they could stop people with small cars even towing trailors that had the potential to be over weight.
Like i say good luck to you but your trailor looks too big for the van so no doubt you`ll get a tug and find out for yourself. I might borrow our lasses corsa tomorrow rather than taking the 4x4 to deliver this agricultural trailor thats outside,not too worry its only twice as big as the car but it`ll be alright as long as nowts on it aye.
Just how new are these new laws you're talking about?
i always thought the law was the trailered gross weight had to be no more than half the gross weight of the tow vehicle????? may be wrong ????
Weight of the trailer on that day has to be less than the (gcw-gvw) (gross combined weight minus gross vehicle weight)
The confusion coming in is probably people without a trailer license not being allowed to exceed unladen weight with gross weight of trailer. But I have heard that was being relaxed and they were just going on weight of trailer on the day.
i just tow anyway, **** the law! lol
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/daz585/Vostapo079.jpg
Nice job on the garage extension. lol
As for this trailering/A-Frame malarky, just stay on the main arterial routes and act like you own that ****. Traffic cars are a rarity anyway. lol
Nice job on the garage extension. lol
As for this trailering/A-Frame malarky, just stay on the main arterial routes and act like you own that ****. Traffic cars are a rarity anyway. lol+rep
+rep
You'll have to stop breakin ****, big dog! lol
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alex J again.*
novalovingned
04-02-13, 10:16 PM
i just tow anyway, **** the law! lol
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/daz585/Vostapo079.jpg
lol lol lol
+rep coming your way lol
novalovingned
04-02-13, 10:42 PM
What people dont actually realise about towing is every joe bloggs can do it with in the law. You dont need a trailer liecense.
Aslong as your "total train weight" is under 3500kg - Your towing vehicle is plated for the weight your towing (1200kg for a mk4 astra van) then all is fine. Most coppers wont start checking tyre rating if your not a cock etc. But they can!
Im not going into fine detail here because my apple pie is almost out the oven lol
when me and a mate towed his disco f lol lol
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395803_3650201580754_292389024_n.jpg
Wouldn't look so bad if the disco was a bit further back. lol
And don't worry too much Mr Ned, we've had a few threads already on towing without a trailer licence. Luckily I quite often drive with a 35t trailer. ;)
What people dont actually realise about towing is every joe bloggs can do it with in the law. You dont need a trailer liecense.
Aslong as your "total train weight" is under 3500kg - Your towing vehicle is plated for the weight your towing (1200kg for a mk4 astra van) then all is fine. Most coppers wont start checking tyre rating if your not a cock etc. But they can!
Im not going into fine detail here because my apple pie is almost out the oven lol
I'm pretty clued up on the whole scenario. Still need to bend the rules every now n then though lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/ManorQuay/UJN%20879Y%20RS1600i/20121006_151547.jpg
That was my last long distance outing. I don't know the train weight, but even if it was OK, it still 'looks' wrong when the car is dragging its ****.
Enough to be pulled if you're unlucky.
920kg RS, 400 for the trailer? Plus the Mondeo was hauling another 150kg in the load area easily.
Again, could've moved the rs back a couple of feet.
Also you are restricted on length (good morning) when you don't have a licence iirc?
Again, could've moved the rs back a couple of feet.
Also you are restricted on length (good morning) when you don't have a licence iirc?
Agreed. Ideally I should have had four separate straps for the wheels, but as I never, with the car further back, the straps looked even sillier, plus I didn't want the Escort hanging off the back. They can only be lashed at the front. Don't get me wrong, it was nice and secure though.
I too have wondered about length (lol etc). I bet there is a limit. Someone moaned at me for taking two spaces!
I have seen similar 'rigs' sometimes claim six if the driver is an arsehole ffs.
meritlover
05-02-13, 08:12 AM
What people dont actually realise about towing is every joe bloggs can do it with in the law. You dont need a trailer liecense.
Aslong as your "total train weight" is under 3500kg - Your towing vehicle is plated for the weight your towing (1200kg for a mk4 astra van) then all is fine. Most coppers wont start checking tyre rating if your not a cock etc. But they can!
Im not going into fine detail here because my apple pie is almost out the oven lol
yes but there is also the fact that the trailer weight cant be greater than the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, which is somewhat restrictive.
meritlover
05-02-13, 08:13 AM
Licences held from 1 January 1997
If you passed your driving test after 1 January 1997 and have an ordinary category B (car) licence, you can drive either:
a vehicle up to 3.5 tonnes or 3,500 kilograms (kg) Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM (with a combined weight of up to 4,250kg in total)
a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as it is no more than the unladen or ‘kerb’ weight of the towing vehicle (with a combined weight of up to 3,500kg in total)
see DVLA
sod all these legals.....if anyone is clued up, hobbit is.... C+E + CPC should be enough rules for the boy...
the plated weight is the killer.. even if a car trailer is unladen, if its plated weight exceeds the max towing weight of the tow vehicle, you will get done.. there is a motorway cop based around worcester who specialises in it.
if you don't have a plate, but your axles are rated high enough with proper commercial trailer wheels & tyres, not some crap from the scrappy, you will be fine, just remember to cover or remove the nova's reg plate for the trip & ensure the van's reg & working lights both ends are fitted..
ps. is there a pic of the other side of the shed?? lol
novalovingned
05-02-13, 12:21 PM
yes but there is also the fact that the trailer weight cant be greater than the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, which is somewhat restrictive.
Yes but that goes with out saying. I mean who wants there dog to take them for a walk. My advise is get a landrover defender lol
meritlover
05-02-13, 12:29 PM
Yes but that goes with out saying.
doesnt seem to, there are pics on here which show this wasnt considered. Also it doesnt matter whether its braked or un braked.
yes you could get a defender, but the vehicle weighs so much that you would then be limited by what you can put on the back to give a train weight total of 3.5t or less
Yes but that goes with out saying. I mean who wants there dog to take them for a walk. My advise is get a landrover defender lol
i know of 2 accidents where the tow vehicle ended up on its roof. both times they were defenders.... yes they can pull massive weights, but they are just crap on the road at anything above stationary
has the law changed again??? lol
https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow
the plated weight is the killer.. even if a car trailer is unladen, if its plated weight exceeds the max towing weight of the tow vehicle, you will get done.. there is a motorway cop based around worcester who specialises in it.
So its different rules for cars and vans than trucks?
Cause I have often pulled trailers with a larger gross than the prime mover should take, especially when on tankers. Used to pull a 18t drag on a 32t prime and just half fill the drag.
Not that it matters cause I just put a deposit down on a vw transporter. lol
meritlover
05-02-13, 07:47 PM
i know of 2 accidents where the tow vehicle ended up on its roof. both times they were defenders.... yes they can pull massive weights, but they are just crap on the road at anything above stationary
I dont think its so much that they crash because theyre so bad, in fact they pull very confidently to the point where you can easily get carried away. The steering boxes give zero feedback and if you get a wiggle on whilst slowing down the first thing you know is when youre on your roof with the trailer mounting you like 2 dogs 'at-it'
novalovingned
05-02-13, 08:12 PM
doesnt seem to, there are pics on here which show this wasnt considered. Also it doesnt matter whether its braked or un braked.
yes you could get a defender, but the vehicle weighs so much that you would then be limited by what you can put on the back to give a train weight total of 3.5t or less
lol Ofcoarse it matters if it braked or unbraked! You can't pull an unbraked trailer with 1200kg on it when the van/car plates state a unbraked load can't be more that 600kg for example. It isn't safe.
When I say "goes with out saying" I'm referring to me and someone who has half a clue what's safe load.
Landrover defender 90 weighs 1700kg iirc with a capacity to pull 3500kg iirc, yes your still restricted to 3500kg tgw but your legally aloud to pull 1800kg. That's a massive differance to what an everyday car is aloud.
We used to pull 3t generators to the highland hills in the snow, never ever had a problem. But then again who knows what the clowns crashing them where doing.
http://i47.tinypic.com/b49el4.jpg
Great success! lol
BENDOGGER
05-02-13, 09:33 PM
So what can you tow with a transit van without a towing licence? 3.5t tranny?
Look at the kerb weight of your model (2.2t at a guess?). Add yourself and anything else your carrying (300kg?) which leaves you about 1t for a trailer.
I dont think its so much that they crash because theyre so bad, in fact they pull very confidently to the point where you can easily get carried away. The steering boxes give zero feedback and if you get a wiggle on whilst slowing down the first thing you know is when youre on your roof with the trailer mounting you like 2 dogs 'at-it'
have you tried to drive a landrover at anything above second gear on a hard surface??? they are shyter than a great big champion shyte thing
Southie
06-02-13, 04:46 PM
I wonder if this trailer has brakes?
http://dotmotorcyclehelmet.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/who_is_towing_who.jpg
So its different rules for cars and vans than trucks?
Cause I have often pulled trailers with a larger gross than the prime mover should take, especially when on tankers. Used to pull a 18t drag on a 32t prime and just half fill the drag.
the thing with trucks is that they are governed by much simpler C&U rules. they are based on axle weights, tyre sizes & wheelbases & taxable weight classes.
you ran an 8 wheeler with a 18t drag, so by rights it was above the legal weights, just looking at the gross weights. it was still governed by the 44t maximum train weight, but my w&d is plated at 26t for the prime, which is a 6x2 with 315 rear tyres, and the drag is plated at 24t..... yet max train is still 44t.
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