View Full Version : 300bhp XE nova
Peanut_119
08-01-13, 11:34 AM
Just seen it on the total Vauxhall page, anyone any more info or a build thread?
There are YouTube links and specs on facebook
BRoadGhost
08-01-13, 03:48 PM
Well it won't be pepe ;(
got more chance of seeing jesus than pepe lol
BRoadGhost
08-01-13, 04:03 PM
He's put it into storage; sent him a text a few months ago.
this one?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530646_10151333951824573_1960691325_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/525781_531736200185415_1278178692_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/251231_532711130087922_481340629_n.jpg
custom rods and pistons for our Opel Corsa A Drag Project
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423639_522659324426436_943502825_n.jpg
Peanut_119
08-01-13, 04:50 PM
That's the one pie
NOV4_SPORT
08-01-13, 04:58 PM
Wow that looks like it means bussiness !!!
womble sri
08-01-13, 05:10 PM
Body panels and seats weigh in at a whopping 10kg!
M.C.F.C
08-01-13, 05:17 PM
that does look like it means buisness lol!! off to you tube looking for vids lol
http://upg.bg/uploads/car_files/gallery/slideshow/corsa3_1.png
http://upg.bg/uploads/car_files/gallery/slideshow/corsa4_1.png
turbojolt
08-01-13, 05:20 PM
its horrid and i dont want to drive it
That looks immense! Wonder how much of the front end is still Nova under all the carbon.
paul james
08-01-13, 05:57 PM
Looks awesome, proper menacing with the blanked front end.
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/504534-pro-drag-opel-corsa-upg-project.html
I want a carbon fibre nova!
therealnovaboy
08-01-13, 05:59 PM
needs speedlines.
it wouldnt surprise me if it was a sport under all that CF
meritlover
08-01-13, 06:01 PM
the nicest bits are hidden deep within the engine :(
novalovingned
08-01-13, 06:23 PM
that looks terrible lol
Was thinking the same thing lol
Still wouldnt mind a go though!
That looks immense! Wonder how much of the front end is still Nova under all the carbon.
None iirc. But they i thought it was a turbo..
loving this. it'll blow Mr Chapman's socks off ;)
[IMG]http://upg.bg/uploads/car_files/gallery/slideshow/corsa4_1.png
Droop snoot nova ftw!
loving this. it'll blow Mr Chapman's socks off ;)
Nahhhh he's building something better next.
Gareth_C
12-01-13, 02:00 PM
loving this. it'll blow Mr Chapman's socks off ;)
It wants to the carbon shell will have cost more than my build.
not as much as all 3 engine put together though :P
What times does it do then? I bet its more like 240bhp. You instantly gain 20% when you cross the river to the continent.
nova_niek
13-01-13, 07:43 AM
what times does it do then? I bet its more like 240bhp. You instantly gain 20% when you cross the river to the continent.
lol
Gareth_C
13-01-13, 08:56 AM
What times does it do then? I bet its more like 240bhp. You instantly gain 20% when you cross the river to the continent.
Supposed to be v low 11's with lack of traction
Gareth_C
13-01-13, 09:01 AM
not as much as all 3 engine put together though :P
It is two builds, same as you Jedro betterware, at least all my builds ran right from the off ;)
As for costs I bet a carbon shell alone would be over 10k when you consider moulds labour etc
my nans shopping trolley will beat this motor
Edited
Supposed to be v low 11's with lack of talent
Fail to see how you can have a lack of traction withem hoosiers on the front.
Gareth_C
13-01-13, 03:41 PM
Lol that's what he wrote on the total Vauxhall wall. Something to do with them only using airstrips there is a project thread on migweb about it
What times does it do then? I bet its more like 240bhp. You instantly gain 20% when you cross the river to the continent.
Still doubting the power it has ?
10.61@128mph
244whp measured on friday night, lesser spec engine, lower rev limit although still 9450 lol
lol
What do think it could do on the original spec?
Maybe what they claim, flywheel figures are a grey area as a flywheel figure is no more than a guestimate. infact whp can also be wrong but I very much doubt this engine is making any less than 244atw to be doing those sort of times ! Its f**king outrageous.
My ears will never be the same after friday night at the dyno lol
Is an amazing bit of kit. Saw it lift the back end off the ground (missed gear/tapped brakes?) and still do a pretty decent run. lol
His last run he almost got a 10.5, bit of a slow gear change which let him down.
Maybe what they claim, flywheel figures are a grey area as a flywheel figure is no more than a guestimate. infact whp can also be wrong but I very much doubt this engine is making any less than 244atw to be doing those sort of times ! Its f**king outrageous.
My ears will never be the same after friday night at the dyno lol
Ahh wondered who was building the engine when they left us tuesday night, all they said it was 'james garage' lol.
The UPG guys are all mad but proper sound, there future plans sound even more crazy. Good effort all round to get it running to that stage in 4 days to be running 10.6's, shame that they had the engine problems as i would of loved to know the time they would of made with there previous spec engine.
IIBENII
12-06-13, 10:12 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201192766011246&l=8190123521774512177
little vid I took of it.
BELIEVE THE HYPE!
Peanut_119
12-06-13, 10:40 AM
Link don't work mate..
(EDIT) working now, laptop had a paddy and kept saying link not found
Does for me, love how it just launches and is off immediately
Ahh wondered who was building the engine when they left us tuesday night, all they said it was 'james garage' lol.
The UPG guys are all mad but proper sound, there future plans sound even more crazy. Good effort all round to get it running to that stage in 4 days to be running 10.6's, shame that they had the engine problems as i would of loved to know the time they would of made with there previous spec engine.
Lol, yeh I guess at that point they didn't even know it was actually our business premises, was quite a lot going on lol
The engine was mostly built by kristian but I gave him a hand along the way, nice to be involved though.
As for the power it made I believe this engine is more powerful than the last, now that's either that the flywheel calculation on the dyno they used is a little optimistic as it does run a straight cut box which if anything would lower the transmission losses, the other possibility which was pointed out by a tuner I spoke to last night was that the setup wasn't quite right on the dyno dynamics we uses and it actually gave false figures making the engine out to be less powerful than it actually is. Who knows lol
There is no doubt that the car is seriously fast and as you say if they go ahead with their future plans then it will get a LOT faster
david dixon
12-06-13, 08:17 PM
It'll be interesting to see it have its new engine, should go well if it does the power and 12k rpm he says it will!
Pretty serious machine that!
BRoadGhost
12-06-13, 09:52 PM
Billet crank, ally block, eight injectors, bonkers cams & 11,000rpm
do it do it...
david dixon
12-06-13, 10:29 PM
standard crank and 12k rpm ;-)
I didn't think a td crank could do that^
The current crank is very much standard ;)
I guess it's the rods that do all the work really...
If they can do that, why do people knife edge and that them?
The crank is well balanced, that is critical, apart from that you have to accept its not an engine that lives at high rpm for long so the crank gets a relatively easy time being that it is a low torque engine used for short bursts only.
If you were to replicate the engine for anymore than it current use then I would definitely expect it to be fitted with a steel crank from the likes of Arrow etc..
John, something i noticed i was surprised at, the car runs std arms and tie bars and std top mounts....
Thought it was use fully adjustable ones.
And oh so the short use, means the crank is ok, i guess burst of 12 sec wont put as much stress on it as a track car..
david dixon
12-06-13, 11:01 PM
I have always been of the opinion that the standard cranks will cut most jobs!
John, something i noticed i was surprised at, the car runs std arms and tie bars and std top mounts....
Thought it was use fully adjustable ones.
And oh so the short use, means the crank is ok, i guess burst of 12 sec wont put as much stress on it as a track car..
The tie bars have alloy inserts fitted where the bushes normally go, the inner TCA was bushed albeit with a very firm bush, given the chance I will send them over a kit to try out as they were interested in one, I have no doubt there is maybe a small gain to be made by switching to a rose jointed setup simply it will make the front end more rigid.
As for the crank I would not rev a stock crank that hard for any length of time, a rally engine for example is going to see max rpm a lot for maybe 15 or so minutes at a time, the cost of a proven steel crank is a LOT cheaper than replacing the engine when something fails in a big way, keep in mind though as that level no corners can be cut, the valve springs are lifed at that sort of rpm, using them for too long could result in a failure even though they are extremely good ones, the rod bolts are L19 material, extremely expensive but again not something you should be cutting corners on ( but people will )
jimbob-mcgrew
13-06-13, 12:34 AM
for a front wheel drive car, that bloody flew down the strip
The tie bars have alloy inserts fitted where the bushes normally go, the inner TCA was bushed albeit with a very firm bush, given the chance I will send them over a kit to try out as they were interested in one, I have no doubt there is maybe a small gain to be made by switching to a rose jointed setup simply it will make the front end more rigid.
As for the crank I would not rev a stock crank that hard for any length of time, a rally engine for example is going to see max rpm a lot for maybe 15 or so minutes at a time, the cost of a proven steel crank is a LOT cheaper than replacing the engine when something fails in a big way, keep in mind though as that level no corners can be cut, the valve springs are lifed at that sort of rpm, using them for too long could result in a failure even though they are extremely good ones, the rod bolts are L19 material, extremely expensive but again not something you should be cutting corners on ( but people will )
I was just surprised was all, thought it all would be fully adjustable and such. But it clearly works...
alloy stub axles on this beaster :eek:
I know a local lad tested a standard crank on its own to 11.5k iirc before it failed, would of been interesting too see.
BRoadGhost
13-06-13, 05:14 PM
I would argue duration at high rpm is in no means as potentially fail inducing for a crank as going hard as possible through the gears on slicks (assuming it's all perfectly balanced with the clutch).
That video from the Faceplant link is great; sounds like a fcuking superbike and goes like one too.
fast?????..............
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRugVK817y_iBelU4UXIRKr-JSXIrdYeExIRgvTu62mrfzAKwhh
for a front wheel drive car, that bloody flew down the strip
Fastest drag cars in the world are FWD, Chevrolet Cobalts doing 6 second passes.
I would argue duration at high rpm is in no means as potentially fail inducing for a crank as going hard as possible through the gears on slicks (assuming it's all perfectly balanced with the clutch).
That video from the Faceplant link is great; sounds like a fcuking superbike and goes like one too.
The car did twist the original steel crank it ran when launching, they now use a valve which electrically releases the clutch when they launch the car ;)
Fastest drag cars in the world are FWD, Chevrolet Cobalts doing 6 second passes.
Agreed but they run 1000+hp and auto boxes, serious money, we are all doing it for fun.
BRoadGhost
14-06-13, 03:12 PM
I've bent standard XE rods before and couldn't understand the poor running xD
Agreed but they run 1000+hp and auto boxes, serious money, we are all doing it for fun.
True, and they're not even close to factory shells anymore but still they are ****ing fast lol
david dixon
14-06-13, 07:00 PM
You don't need daft money to build a 1000hp ecotec though!, there'll be at least 2 next year..
In reality a complete package is a load of money David, I've yet to see anyone sink a good amount of money into a gearbox yet, realistically your talking 10k for a reasonable transmission setup. It's about time someone started pushing the ecotec engine though
A lot of the evo boys now have been running 6-800bhp on standard boxes and winning in the sprints etc, a fair few have now gone towards the maktrak seq boxes.....circa 12k iirc, awesome bit of kit, sure a sadev box to suit a vaux is about 12k too new. Generally seen as far to much money for such an item in vaux circles though.
A fwd only evo box from Maktrak would be the way forward but as you say that's well out of most Vauxhalls owners budgets!
You will be surprised.
He says most. He's bang on the money imo.
Second only to the V300 crowd for being tighter than a ducks ****.
You not after one as a skidder anymore? I k ow where theres a good shell. Mates ex-car.
In Sunlun.
Mush?
Couple hundred. Varicose vein blue 340. We have fitted various Clio 16v engines.to it but has none atm.
Tidy and v solid.
He seems desperate for space. Is gonna weigh in. So might take 150?
Needs engine and box.
Need something running and road legal :(
Need something running and road legal :(
You want the fuggin moon on a stick!!!!!2
david dixon
15-06-13, 09:49 AM
You will be surprised.
very! ha
I will be surprised if you go and run a low 9 or sub 9 second pass, otherwise its just another powerful vauxhall that's not really doing anything new.
If someone can build a 9 sec tigra on their driveway then a proper developed car wants to be running times on a whole new level, that's not a dig, it's just how I see things needing to go if you want to impress the people who care.
At the end of the day the UPG nova proved what can be done with a reasonable amount of money, with a touch more power I have no doubt it could run a 9 and that's an all motor setup so with a good gearbox and turbo engine can you imagine what it would be capable of!
We need some mental cars in the UK sadly my knowledge of drag racing is limited to Vauxhall's and the only seriously quick home built cars I know of are Dave & Linden's V6 Nova, Specky's Tigra and a few cars I saw at PVS.
Why cant we have things like that UPG Nova, they even traveled from Bulgaria just to show it off, mental guys!
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