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G-nova
29-12-12, 05:20 PM
as in the title so far I have found a white saloon and mine but has anybody else got a Y reg nova or know of one? either taxed or sorn let me know :thumb:

Novasport
29-12-12, 05:25 PM
Elgan has a Carnelian red one

Novasport
29-12-12, 05:28 PM
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?187568-HEY-772Y-Project&highlight=

Hobbit
29-12-12, 05:31 PM
My mate just sold a brown y reg saloon.

G-nova
29-12-12, 05:33 PM
date of liability is 01/04/2009 for HEY 772Y according to DVLA - this means it has been scrapped am I correct?

G-nova
29-12-12, 05:34 PM
have you got the reg for the brown one? trying to find earliest road registered nova thats still owned and not scrapped - many thanks

Spudly
29-12-12, 06:04 PM
Iirc, Gunny's vxr converted bronze hatch is also a Y reg:thumb:

Pete
29-12-12, 07:23 PM
true spud, a friend of mine also has a Y reg shell that is being used for autograss.

vessey
29-12-12, 08:01 PM
Hey 772y hasn't scraped it was in my garge last time I looked lol think that's when it was last taxed

G-nova
29-12-12, 08:36 PM
Hey 772y hasn't scraped it was in my garge last time I looked lol think that's when it was last taxed

did a vehicle check on dvla website and came up as unlicensed with date of liability as 01/04/2009 no sorn? so assumed it ment scrapped? why does it come up like that?

G-nova
29-12-12, 08:37 PM
true spud, a friend of mine also has a Y reg shell that is being used for autograss.

can you get hold of reg?

G-nova
29-12-12, 08:37 PM
Iirc, Gunny's vxr converted bronze hatch is also a Y reg:thumb:

do you know reg?

G-nova
29-12-12, 08:37 PM
My mate just sold a brown y reg saloon.

do you know the reg?

Spudly
29-12-12, 08:37 PM
did a vehicle check on dvla website and came up as unlicensed with date of liability as 01/04/2009 no sorn? so assumed it ment scrapped? why does it come up like that?



If its not been declared sorn, and it hasnt been on the road from before the time when it became a legality to declared it, then it just shows as unlicenced!

G-nova
29-12-12, 08:40 PM
If its not been declared sorn, and it hasnt been on the road from before the time when it became a legality to declared it, then it just shows as unlicenced!


ok mate thanks for clearing that up

Hobbit
29-12-12, 08:44 PM
No idea on reg.

Spudly
29-12-12, 08:45 PM
do you know reg?





Its on here somewhere i think, but its not my place to hand out others reg numbers, checked it on doovla website though and it shows as being registered on the 9-6-1983 :thumb:

Andy
29-12-12, 08:49 PM
true spud, a friend of mine also has a Y reg shell that is being used for autograss.

Plus rep

G-nova
29-12-12, 10:41 PM
So far I'm counting 5 still left on Y reg plates, any more?

vessey
29-12-12, 10:54 PM
when was yours register mine was 3/6/83

Pete
29-12-12, 10:59 PM
Plus rep

Haha, take it your into grassing?

Wouldnt have a clue of reg im afraid as i only saw it when he got it as the shell & then few weeks later when he had it all prepped for a meeting.

Novasport
29-12-12, 11:06 PM
Bit common these Y reg's eh lol

G-nova
30-12-12, 12:29 AM
when was yours register mine was 3/6/83

mine was registered with dvla on the 17/06/83 but have checked chassis on http://www.opel-corsa-a.com/index.php?seite=registry.htm and so far its 4th with all nova's before me located abroad. You should check it out see where your's is, let us know mate.

davie300zx
30-12-12, 12:45 AM
If you look at how many left website theres 86 1983 novas . 32 on road the rest sorned
.only 1 nova 1.0 swing left . Whos the lucky guy !!!!

Spudly
30-12-12, 12:51 AM
That site is a load of crap, it told us not too long ago there were either two or three antibes left, i can name at least six, and at the same time it told of only one nova sola in existence and im fairly sure it said that it was on sorn, there were at the time, two in the club, both taxed and on the road lol

davie300zx
30-12-12, 12:55 AM
Still says 1 sola and 1 tdi !!

Paul
30-12-12, 07:40 AM
Thres a white 'sport' thats a y reg iirc

Southie
30-12-12, 07:57 AM
Thres a white 'sport' thats a y reg iirc

That's the A reg one your thinking of.

Novasport
30-12-12, 09:26 AM
The brown one you mean? lol

There was another Y reg rally car I found when I went to have a look at that rotten Sport.

Nova00
30-12-12, 10:51 AM
not sure where you get your Antibes figures from but there is 19 licenced and 35 SORN at 30/09/12

As regards the two Solas on PNG - as has been said before one is listed (possibly incorrectly) as a merit , the other one is in bits unlicenced since September 2011.



That site is a load of crap, it told us not too long ago there were either two or three antibes left, i can name at least six, and at the same time it told of only one nova sola in existence and im fairly sure it said that it was on sorn, there were at the time, two in the club, both taxed and on the road lol

Spudly
30-12-12, 10:54 AM
not sure where you get your Antibes figures from but there is 19 licenced and 35 SORN at 30/09/12

As regards the two Solas on PNG - as has been said before one is listed (possibly incorrectly) as a merit , the other one is in bits unlicenced since September 2011.



The antibes figures came at the time from the howmanyleft website, as ive stated countless times its not very accurate, both owners of the sola's replied at the time and said theirs were both reg'd as sola models, and were both taxed tested insured and on the road at the time of asking!

Nova00
30-12-12, 12:58 PM
As far as Antibes concerned the website shows there has always been at least 18 Nova Antibes licenced. There are currently 2 astra antibes and also two cavalier antibes which may be where the figure of two came from (cavalier forum ?)

Looking back at the Sola threads i cannot see anything by owners to say listed as Solas at DVLA. Both the cars refered to are listed as Merits hence will not be in category "solas"

RE J455 xxx (currently unlicenced)

Make https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/52be90d2-930e-41e1-b6a7-f328ba7f1063.jpg Model https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/06a35e31-dc31-40b7-9413-4db136b0b46d.jpg Colour https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/e68145a8-edbf-44d1-b8fb-d482bff94065.jpg Year https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/2e7054a8-2575-4a98-84be-86a99371d61d.jpg Fuel https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/aac0e64a-7127-4c18-ba05-5b9bc0e8823d.jpg Body Style https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/f4f4db06-b9b2-4f69-9b0d-d0f4d1b89aed.jpg CO2 https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/3741305b-422c-4920-8d7d-c96f3bc7204f.jpg


re j950 xxx (licenced)
Make https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/405dc461-30f0-46af-afcb-c1bfd4e07503.jpg Model https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/dcdaac28-b1cd-42ac-901d-5ea324e3ac34.jpg Colour https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/a8b360b1-5273-4193-bbc0-69ac492cc420.jpg Year https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/7733ac0c-cc57-44ff-b509-19211643951d.jpg Fuel https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/2f1c2095-2516-426d-8ce3-8b0f9a948f79.jpg Body Style https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/8e4307b1-f88f-4103-a40c-f200f89391ef.jpg CO2 https://www.icarcheck.net/images/auto/7895bc82-9c67-4bce-bb79-8240fc47201f.jpg





The antibes figures came at the time from the howmanyleft website, as ive stated countless times its not very accurate, both owners of the sola's replied at the time and said theirs were both reg'd as sola models, and were both taxed tested insured and on the road at the time of asking!

Plug
30-12-12, 01:13 PM
I have a licenced antibes :-) although it's not had the engine logged yet as its not been used on the road yet !

G-nova
30-12-12, 01:31 PM
most of the 1983 nova's will be on an A plate not a Y. I didn't know their was an A reg sport - thought that they didn't come out till a C plate earliest any one got a link?

sport
30-12-12, 01:36 PM
I didn't know their was an A reg sport - thought that they didn't come out till a C plate earliest any one got a link?


Sports came out on a B reg, the A reg Sport is a long running saga about someone that allegedly reshelled his Sport with an A reg.

mowgli
30-12-12, 01:51 PM
and not forgetting y & a reg rally cars that were entered as sports too..

cav_2.0_gli
30-12-12, 02:34 PM
If you look at how many left website theres 86 1983 novas . 32 on road the rest sorned
.only 1 nova 1.0 swing left . Whos the lucky guy !!!!

ive got a B-reg Nova Swing 1.0 lol.
surely it can't be the only one left in existance???

has any other club members got a 1.0 swing?

Pete
30-12-12, 02:59 PM
ive got a B-reg Nova Swing 1.0 lol.
surely it can't be the only one left in existance???

has any other club members got a 1.0 swing?

As already stated, that site is a load of bull, there will be more than x1 1.0 swings about fella.

Spudly
30-12-12, 03:52 PM
ive got a B-reg Nova Swing 1.0 lol.
surely it can't be the only one left in existance???

has any other club members got a 1.0 swing?




Yes Nick J's red one is a swing, oh look there are two of them, howmanyleft = fail lol

Nova00
30-12-12, 04:26 PM
May not be a fail. Registrations of the two vehicles are required to provide the answer.
There is always an expanation available

generally ..............
1 Are they currently licenced ?
2 Have they been licenced at any time since 31/01/98 ? - if not will be unlicenced (ie NOT licenced or SORN)
3 Are they in the trade (for resale etc) - if they are, then likely to be unlicenced
4 Mainland UK ?
5 Are they correctly classified originally (easily checked on internet) records were computerised in the 1970's but who relied on computers in the 1980's ??. 1990 cars much more accurately classified.



Yes Nick J's red one is a swing, oh look there are two of them, howmanyleft = fail lol

Spudly
30-12-12, 04:28 PM
I dont think Nicks is currently taxed, but it was on the road last year i think!




I think Rich Sillet's nova (novasport) is also a swing, in red on a B/D plate too, that was definately taxed earlier this year as it was parked next to mine at the national weekend!

Nova00
30-12-12, 05:02 PM
regarding the swings -
the 1.0 /1.2 were launched in June 1984
1984 - total of 1 licenced left is a 1.0
1985 and later are all 1.2 ( 1985 - 17 still licenced)

the one at the national was a 1.2 (ie one of the 17 1985 left)

Nicks I do not have reg for but it could be the only one 1.0 left (as he suggested earlier in thread)


I dont think Nicks is currently taxed, but it was on the road last year i think!

I think Rich Sillet's nova (novasport) is also a swing, in red on a B/D plate too, that was definately taxed earlier this year as it was parked next to mine at the national weekend!

Novasport
30-12-12, 05:15 PM
My Swing is a 1.2 and I am sure Nick J's is not a Swing it is just a base model with grey interior.


and not forgetting y & a reg rally cars that were entered as sports too..

Not technically Sports, they were SR's with the homologated 'Sport tuning pack' fitted, although I dont think they used the same DCOE's as Sports and I am sure they never used the airbox! The Sport was just a way of getting the twin DCOE's homologated for use instead of the already homologated Pierburg 1B and Irmscher injection.

Nova00
30-12-12, 05:19 PM
if the car in question is b33xxx then it is listed as a 1.2 Swing


[QUOTE=Novasport;2106799]My Swing is a 1.2 and I am sure Nick J's is not a Swing it is just a base model with grey interior.

Novasport
30-12-12, 06:13 PM
MintFRST had a 1.0 Swing but it went to NI and they have their own vehicle licencing dept so may not show on these 'how many left' lists. Cormac also has a 1.0 in NI

burgo
30-12-12, 06:58 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't care how many are left? Lol

cav_2.0_gli
30-12-12, 07:18 PM
so, potentionally, i could own the last 1.0 swing in existance then? (1.0 swing, not any swing model)??

Nova00
30-12-12, 09:18 PM
registration number ?

Andy
30-12-12, 09:32 PM
so, potentionally, i could own the last 1.0 swing in existance then? (1.0 swing, not any swing model)??
And i know for certain you dont.

Edd
30-12-12, 09:35 PM
No credible figure of cars left will ever come from that site

Spudly
30-12-12, 09:40 PM
No credible figure of cars left will ever come from that site




I need to pass the butter again lol

Nova00
30-12-12, 09:46 PM
and we still do not know who has the 1.0 swing !
(vague claims without registrations are not allowed)


I need to pass the butter again lol

burgo
30-12-12, 09:51 PM
and we still do not know who has the 1.0 swing !
(vague claims without registrations are not allowed)

Im curious as to why it matters to you so much? What gives you the right to call people liars just because they dont want to give som random in the Internet their reg number. I have seen cav gli's swing and it is a 1l happy now?

Nova00
30-12-12, 09:58 PM
You will note HE ASKED THE QUESTION

" ive got a B-reg Nova Swing 1.0 lol.
surely it can't be the only one left in existance???

has any other club members got a 1.0 swing? "


If he wants the answer why not give the registration ?

burgo
30-12-12, 10:00 PM
Why do you need his reg to find out if anyone else has got one

Andy
30-12-12, 10:01 PM
fukks sake,the other swing is my old one which my mate bought off me in 09 and is sorn.
Can you have the reg? can you fukk.

Edd
30-12-12, 10:16 PM
I can think of at least 2 other 1.0l swings that are on here

That site is seriously bollox

cav_2.0_gli
30-12-12, 10:17 PM
You will note HE ASKED THE QUESTION

" ive got a B-reg Nova Swing 1.0 lol.
surely it can't be the only one left in existance???

has any other club members got a 1.0 swing? "


If he wants the answer why not give the registration ?

someone put up that according to that site, theres only 1 nova 1.0 swing (1 litre, not 1.2 swing) left in existance registered with the DVLA. i own a B-reg Nova 1.0 Swing.

why do you need my reg to verify it? my logbook clearly states 1.0 swing.

all i was wondering if whether or not theres any truth in that from the site.

i dont think cars registered over in NI count if you're thinking of any from club members over there

burgo
30-12-12, 10:18 PM
Not to mention of course that for every nova that Is on here there is probably at least 10 that arent so the chances of a few of them being swings as well is pretty high

Nova00
30-12-12, 10:46 PM
You have confirmed the situation regarding yours (ie what the logbook says)
I only asked for the reg as I can hardy ask for the log book !

Assuming yours was licenced at 30/09/12, then I would say in answer to your question it is likely that yours is the only one either licenced or SORN on the UK mainland, unless someone adequately proves otherwise !

There has been only one other 1.0 swing licenced or SORN since 01/01/2010 and this went off DVLA records betweeen 01/04/12 and 30/06/2012 - chances are that it was either one of the ones that went to NI or Andys mate did not put onto SORN after March 2012 (it may exist but be listed as unlicenced). Often it is the sweeping statements made on PNG (and elsewhere) regarding the statistics which are very misleading rather than the figures themselves !.

I would say as I have said on my SR thread there is no evidence that DVLA / how many left figures are incorrect as they have a whole department dealing with statistics ! and it would be very worrying if this was the case.

updated 5/01/12
As regards the two "Nova swings" referred to above - I have been advised since writing the above that both are registered as 1.0 rather than 1.0 swing (not as originally claimed by others on PNG). Therefore the split between 1.0 and 1.0 swing cannot be relied upon, but the total should account for all the 1.0/ 1.0 swing still in existance, unless someone adequately proves otherwise !



someone put up that according to that site, theres only 1 nova 1.0 swing (1 litre, not 1.2 swing) left in existance registered with the DVLA. i own a B-reg Nova 1.0 Swing.

why do you need my reg to verify it? my logbook clearly states 1.0 swing.

all i was wondering if whether or not theres any truth in that from the site.

i dont think cars registered over in NI count if you're thinking of any from club members over there

burgo
30-12-12, 10:49 PM
Do you work in that department by any chance?

Nova00
30-12-12, 10:55 PM
No connection what so ever !!

I made the mistake of looking at the figures last christmas re SR's through idle curiosity.
Thankfully I have an excuse not to reply after i am back at work on Wednesday !

Andy
30-12-12, 10:59 PM
his is sorn still just checked

sport
30-12-12, 11:31 PM
My god a night in the pub and i come back to war over how many Swings are left.

I have a 1.2 Swing and from now on dont want it known as this. lol

marc69
30-12-12, 11:38 PM
I own and drive as my every day car a 1984 1.0 ohv swing. It is registered as this with DVLA, I think it is August 1984 (although the wiring has labels stating spetember 1983)

There, that'll keep everyone happy!

Paul
31-12-12, 12:11 AM
I can categorically tell you that there is more than 4(or whatever it says) astra champs left.

Sola
31-12-12, 04:43 PM
On the Sola subject, I may be able to shed some light on this...

At the Heritage Centre I spoke to a very knowledgable gentleman who confirmed that there were 100 Solas, most likely 50 red and 50 silk violet. They were initially Merits but were converted (roof added) before import into the UK and were sold through the London Dealer network. Not all of them were registered as Solas as some dealers didn't make the necessary administative changes to the log books and registrations.

Mine is one of these. I have it confirmed as a Sola from the Vauxhall Heritage Centre and am now trying to get the log book changed. Why? I have no idea, it doesn't really matter, I just see it as a little side project.

novacabrio
31-12-12, 05:02 PM
Back to Y reg Novas....

I own this one!!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/man31c/7511D649-09E9-41F0-BEEC-B035CE3CDE7F-3140-0000015562636FD0.jpg

Well I own the log book, vin plates and this much of it

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/man31c/41759FC4-BA0C-4D23-A707-BFA5EA5DB042-3140-000001556740EDCF.jpg

Ok I exaggerate, I only own this much....

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/man31c/65CD18CB-E4AE-48B0-9D60-76001A7BC57A-3140-0000015784ACA4F5.jpg

Thinking of buying a Sport shell and using a lot if metal from it to rebuilt this one? Not sure if that's been done before? Lol lol lol

Spudly
31-12-12, 05:16 PM
Damn you Mark, i was just about to say that would be a perfect idea, but you beat me to it lol

Nova00
31-12-12, 07:42 PM
Without doubt the most informative posting of the whole thread !


On the Sola subject, I may be able to shed some light on this...

At the Heritage Centre I spoke to a very knowledgable gentleman who confirmed that there were 100 Solas, most likely 50 red and 50 silk violet. They were initially Merits but were converted (roof added) before import into the UK and were sold through the London Dealer network. Not all of them were registered as Solas as some dealers didn't make the necessary administative changes to the log books and registrations.

Mine is one of these. I have it confirmed as a Sola from the Vauxhall Heritage Centre and am now trying to get the log book changed. Why? I have no idea, it doesn't really matter, I just see it as a little side project.

Calamity Josh
31-12-12, 07:58 PM
my dad had a mocha brown y rej one a while back, cream cheq interior, brown dash, brown carpets, early mirror, p/s blank e.t.c.... was deceased in 1998 after he sold it iirc, don't know how. although i will try find out the rej.

also another mocha one if it's still alive?
EBJ 280Y

hope this helps

*edit-dads was one of these, he believes it to be the top one*
KPP 588Y
KPP 558Y

Southie
31-12-12, 07:59 PM
Mark, that's a fantastic Y reg sledge you've got lol

sama
02-11-13, 10:31 PM
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae160/sama1cars/yreg0_zps6d9295be.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/sama1cars/media/yreg0_zps6d9295be.jpg.html)
bought this last week :)