View Full Version : I've gone mad.
Just purchased this 750il to fix up and hopefully run as a daily for a bit, why do I feel like I've gone completely mad?
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/750il/Outside.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/750il/Outside2.JPG
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/750il/Interior.JPG
The reason I bought it, 5.0 V12!
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/750il/Engine.JPG
I see no madness here, lol
Uh-oh! Not a well liked engine iirc. 8 Series owners avoid them for the most part.
Bad move! lol
Oh well the bad news is it needs some engine remedial work lol Fun times ahead
This is the good healthy kind of mad.
Remedial work sounds fun, times costs by 3, add BMW premium... lol
But be happy knowing that despite being an f plate he can still go into a BMW dealer and get every part for that car as the krauts do it right whereas vaux tend to delete any vehicle over 5 years old from their system lol
maybe, but I'm not sure I'd want to! I had to go to dealer for a MAP sensor for mine and injector leak off pipes as they use a smaller OD than all the aftermarket stuff I found, cost about £90, and that was through someone that knew the guys working there.
Might not be too bad compared to modern cars but the MAP sensors only a pissy little 2cmx2cm box with a 3 wire plug.
Wow, you must earn some decent coin Lemon, lol
Fluffing pays well and he enjoys his job, happy days for some.
Wow, you must earn some decent coin Lemon, lol
lol @ the its a BMW so he's a millionaire craic.
Iain, good job you have spindly wafer thin arms with three elbows and magnetic fingers.
I think they will come in handy.
RE Vaux deleting stuff (don't they provide service parts for 10 years.after production as with most manufacturers?) we all know noone wants to keep one on the road as long as a prestige marque.
Now that is a proper car!
novadave24
28-12-12, 04:49 PM
cor how much is that going cost on petrol ?
Royston
28-12-12, 04:49 PM
Yes:eek:
Enjoy:d
and I thought I was mad buying an MGFlol
Enjoy:d
and I thought I was mad buying an HGFlol
:d
lol @ the its a BMW so he's a millionaire craic.
Errr, hello, its a 5.0 V12 and fuel in this country is about eleventymillionquidalitre lol
How much for an ounce?
My current daily 5 series looks like a drugdealers car, this one looks like an old man's toy with the chromey arches lol
Hoping I can get away with fettling some ignition components to get it running right and leave it the hell alone but time will tell.
Meh I'll worry about fuel if I ever get it done!
RE Vaux deleting stuff (don't they provide service parts for 10 years.after production as with most manufacturers?) we all know noone wants to keep one on the road as long as a prestige marque.
That has never made legislation, it was more of a 'gentlemans' agreement. I'm sure it will make legislation sometime in the next 5 years, much like cars sold in Europe getting DAB as standard by 2014 due to the frenchies turning off the fm in their land.
novadave24
28-12-12, 05:01 PM
got any pics of the 5 series ?
Quite an old pic but it hasn't really changed, E34 525i, just lowered on staggered Throwing Stars
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/BMWWIP/013.JPG
paul080803
28-12-12, 05:02 PM
But be happy knowing that despite being an f plate he can still go into a BMW dealer and get every part for that car as the krauts do it right whereas vaux tend to delete any vehicle over 5 years old from their system lol
You can't get a crank pulley bolt from BMW for a e30 325i any more, and that was about 7 years ago!
I like the E34, but it's as much a drug dealers car as a Rover Sterling is a police car.
Was.
I dislike the way any old Beemer is regarded as such. "Check out ma free sixteen efirtysix on an H plate man. Wheel trims da lot. No I aint won the lottery, surprisingly!" lol
Fair point on the jungle juice, but it's all relative.
Don't pay £250 p/m+ on tick for a new car, and you can fuel an older big engined one.
Not many people choose to mind. lol
I actually deal drugs from the E34.
peester
28-12-12, 05:10 PM
christ its a barge.. isnt it true that the 'L' means a slightly longer wheelbase than usual 7 series' ?
novadave24
28-12-12, 05:11 PM
i like that bmw mate looks good on them wheels to :)
That has never made legislation, it was more of a 'gentlemans' agreement. I'm sure it will make legislation sometime in the next 5 years, much like cars sold in Europe getting DAB as standard by 2014 due to the frenchies turning off the fm in their land.
Oh. It should be. Hanging people out to dry like that is scandalous.
I actually deal drugs from the E34.
Well you must only have one customer. Or work for the NHS.
L means Limousine in all of those 7 Series, S Class jobs. Longer in the rear.
We want streeto vids. :d
Oh. It should be. Hanging people out to dry like that is scandalous.
Yes and no, it costs big money to keep parts being made and unless owners goto the dealer then you won't find the oem stocking parts... And owners of poverty brand cars like ford and vaux don't goto dealers after the warranty has run out, whereas most other branded vehicles do for atleast 10 years
davidfox280585
28-12-12, 06:11 PM
nice fiesta any more pics?
the old 7 series was a hoot... my stepdad had an e plate 735 & i made him physically sick showing him just how fast it would go on a long straight road!!!!!!
iaiaiaiain, did you see my previous post about an E30 320 2 dr & a shoehorn????
you'd make a supercar eater & everyone would bow down in front of you...
steviegsi
28-12-12, 09:11 PM
Love it. Get it sat on its ar$e. :)
Novasport
28-12-12, 09:38 PM
christ its a barge.. isnt it true that the 'L' means a slightly longer wheelbase than usual 7 series' ?
Yes it means long or limousine
Novasport
28-12-12, 09:43 PM
I would consider a last model 730d as they are so cheap to buy and we never had any real problems with them. A lot of car for the money
brainsnova
28-12-12, 10:12 PM
Another wtf lol
iaiaiaiain, did you see my previous post about an E30 320 2 dr & a shoehorn????
you'd make a supercar eater & everyone would bow down in front of you...
Yeah thought you made that post thinking I'd just bought the engine not the whole car! Not sure if I can be bothered to do a transplant with it (yet)!
Yep L is long version, the length of the rear doors and rear legroom is insane.
well, when all of the electronic bits fail & its too much money to repair, which usually happen with big cars, it would make afun project... meanwhile, you could start doing airport taxi work, and wedding hire lol
BRoadGhost
29-12-12, 10:52 AM
I know where that engine should go :)
meritlover
29-12-12, 10:57 AM
Uh-oh! Not a well liked engine iirc. 8 Series owners avoid them for the most part.
If i remember these are 2 straight six's which share the same crank. I think each 'bank' is controlled like a separate engine almost independantly. i.e individual MAFs and ECUs. i cant remember how they balance to each other.
I would be interested to hear how it works and what the engine issues are.
/\ the bmw m power engine in the mclaren f1 gtr was basically 2 m3 lumps in a common crankcase
meritlover
29-12-12, 11:37 AM
how did they balance each bank, did the ECU control it on MAF? there are no balance tubes between each plenum. i dont understand how it doesnt run rough or one bank does all the work. I would imagine TB cleanliness and adjustment is critical, as is CAS alignment for each bank. I can just and so make out 2 actuators on each TB? are these for cruise control or is it all fly by wire?
i haven't a clue, but i guess they know a lot more about engine mapping etc than i ever will... they were already making the 750 engine, so that was probably a starting point. bmw don't exactly change stuff for the sake of it, so 4pot, 6pot etc share a lot of bits.
the jag v12 & straight 6 shared a lot of common architecture & i'm led to believe the later 24v aj6 heads would fit the v12..
maybe stu has some info on this..
he did point out that the v12 in the aston martin was basically 2 v6 mondeo lumps in a common block, and used 2 mondeo systems side by side to make it work!!!
To be fair it's probably not a bad system at all to control banks seperately, airflow will be monitored, fuel added as needed and timing adjusted which is all that's needed to run an engine, how well it works and emissions etc just depends on the quality of that operation, and it will be optimised for the airflow and temperatures into each bank. It's probably better than trying to work in a single AFM or MAP sensor to run the whole lot, although obviously greater chance for failures from more independant parts.
Troubleshooting could be fun too, is it running rough because this bank has a sensor out, or the other bank has a sensor out and they're not talking to each other so this bank doesn't know it's dragging half the engine with it lol
meritlover
29-12-12, 03:39 PM
i dont think its a bad system at all. It must purely match MAF through each TB.
Troubleshooting could be fun too, is it running rough because this bank has a sensor out, or the other bank has a sensor out and they're not talking to each other so this bank doesn't know it's dragging half the engine with it lol
thats exactly my point.
Except trouble shooting is probably pretty straight forward if you took a methodical approach. You have 2 separate banks, and duplicate sensors on each side. so you keep swapping bits until you shift the fault onto the other bank.
All this discussion makes me wish it all works fine and I can leave the bonnet shut :(
turbojolt
30-12-12, 04:52 PM
your other one looks better tbh, but i bet its a nice smooth drive with that massive engine sitting up front, cant you get it running on lpg to reduce the running costs
slammed on wire wheels and pinstripe paint low'mofo'riding with your chrome arches lol
So whats actually wrong with the engine Ian?
Misfiring on about 10cyl's or something?? Lol
Chrome arches have already been removed, surprisingly mint under there lol
Frick knows, yeah just horrendous misfiring. All the ignition components are original factory items and its been standing for a bit so playing with those at the moment
brainsnova
31-12-12, 01:38 PM
Yay bye bye chrome ****
davidfox280585
31-12-12, 01:39 PM
wheres the fiesta pics iain?
Speaking of Fiestas, we tidied that garage out yesterday. Mk1 XR2 stuff everywhere, but no blower motors that I could see. lol
Sorry totally forgot about the Fiesta pics, it's only a shonky mk1 Fiesta tho lol
Thanks for finally checking for me Liam, most appreciated
Check behind the bin in the layby? XD
davidfox280585
31-12-12, 02:26 PM
Sorry totally forgot about the Fiesta pics, it's only a shonky mk1 Fiesta tho lol
Thanks for finally checking for me Liam, most appreciated
no such thing as a shonky mk1 fiesta
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