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EwanG
01-12-12, 06:05 PM
How many years until all novas are dead and rotten to the core?? lol

turbojolt
01-12-12, 06:06 PM
happened yesterday, sky news said so

Liam
01-12-12, 06:10 PM
The end of this year as that's when the world ends and we all die...


...Supposedly lol

EwanG
01-12-12, 06:12 PM
The end of this year as that's when the world ends and we all die...


...Supposedly lol
Kool! Tell me the exact time and I will sit in my nova with my eyes closed! lol

16v Nova Kev
01-12-12, 06:32 PM
It's already happened

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 06:47 PM
Im thinking about going to malta and driving a minter back

craig green
01-12-12, 06:50 PM
How many years until all novas are dead and rotten to the core?? lol

Really? :roll:

L14MNP
01-12-12, 06:53 PM
One day the majority of you will realise, Novas don't actually rust that badly.
There are so many cars that actually do rot out.

Nova's will become as good as extinct due to people weighing them in for needing a front panel and a pair of rear arches.

When you own a car where every single panel is susceptible to serious rot, then you can have this discussion.

I honestly think some of you have never seen an actual rotten car. lol

Markd89
01-12-12, 06:58 PM
One day the majority of you will realise, Novas don't actually rust that badly.
There are so many cars that actually do rot out.

Nova's will become as good as extinct due to people weighing them in for needing a front panel and a pair of rear arches.

When you own a car where every single panel is susceptible to serious rot, then you can have this discussion.

I honestly think some of you have never seen an actual rotten car. lol

Have to agree on this, when we got our mk2 escort to rebuilt that was rotten, it actually had a rotten roof it was paper thin ive never seen a nova been stupidly bad, all the expected places of course, battery tray inner wings arches ect.

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 07:05 PM
Your right about that we can repair the rust on them with pannels but i lived nextdoor to a guy in skelmersday with a mk2 escort who was making his own repair sections because you couldnt get them. But saying that if you own a lancia beta then you realy have to worrie about rust lollollol

L14MNP
01-12-12, 07:09 PM
^Exactly mate.

When your roof skin and upper quarters hole through, closures rot from the ground upwards, bulkheads disintegrate and chassis legs crumble away in your hands then you have a rotten car!

You could leave a Nova uncovered in a muddy field for a decade and I am fairly confident that wouldn't happen.

Bet your mk2 hadn't even been treated that badly to end up in such condition?

I know my RSi has had door skins, lower rear quarters, rear valance, rear quarters, sills, top of bulkhead, full inner wings, outer wings, front panel... and some are much much worse.

Even then, mk1/2/3/4 Escorts still aren't in the same ball park as Lancia, old BL stuff, 70's Jap etc.
We all have it easy in comparison.

Novas dont even come into it!

turbojolt
01-12-12, 07:20 PM
my willy is bigger then your willy

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 07:20 PM
Altho that sport that is parked in a hedge is the only exeption, ive never seen one anywere near that bad before

L14MNP
01-12-12, 07:23 PM
Altho that sport that is parked in a hedge is the only exeption, ive never seen one anywere near that bad before

There's always exceptions to anything like you say.

Imagine if that was a Lancia Montecarlo or a Hilman Avenger though. lol

TJ, noone is claiming that. You almost seem upset to not own a known rot box.

There's rust and there's rot. Guess which category Novas fall into. Be glad!

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 07:27 PM
Ive got to do a front pannel on mine next year and ive got a some rot under the wings but im not scared of the welder and im even going to have ago at painting it myself (probably going to end up being the whole car) but it depends on what you want from your car and how far your willing to go with it

turbojolt
01-12-12, 07:29 PM
There's always exceptions to anything like you say.

Imagine if that was a Lancia Montecarlo or a Hilman Avenger though. lol

TJ, noone is claiming that. You almost seem upset to not own a known rot box.

There's rust and there's rot. Guess which category Novas fall into. Be glad!

im more then happy with the minimal rust and holes on my nova, but they still rust badly, didnt vauxhall themselfs release infomation about common rust arears after only 5 years of them being released

obversly there is worse cars out for it, but comparing vauxhalls and fords is like comparing clymidia and herpes there all **** to have lol

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 07:30 PM
^^lollollollol^^

L14MNP
01-12-12, 07:31 PM
I had to stick a front panel on mine and plate the floorpans (odd).

Had never done anything like that before, but it's simple enough.
That was the worst rust I had ever seen at the time. Guess it depends what you're used to.

The people who say Novas rot really badly are probs the same ones who think the Vaux dealership is expensive for parts. lol

Good on you for painting it mate. I helped a mate with a 205 GTi track car/resto, and when we got to paint, I was surprised how well it came out.
All in the prep as they say.

L14MNP
01-12-12, 07:35 PM
im more then happy with the minimal rust and holes on my nova, but they still rust badly, didnt vauxhall themselfs release infomation about common rust arears after only 5 years of them being released

obversly there is worse cars out for it, but comparing vauxhalls and fords is like comparing clymidia and herpes there all **** to have lol

Lol

I just hear 'rot box' on here too often. I liken it to some **** with a new Polo and D.A. Rusts his bonnet and claims to own a rat.
Nah, my mates 64 year old pick up is a rat - but keep on dreamin son.

There's nothing cool about having a car that is known to rot, but thinking you do when you don't shows that you haven't had many dealings with the subject imo.

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 07:35 PM
As long as you dont rush it there shouldnt be any problems plus my father inlaw is a spraypainter so he will probably be there to make sure i dont cock up, im thinking about doing the sills aswell as they have had a couple of patches and im using a door skin to repare my n/s door

Edd
01-12-12, 07:51 PM
I don't use mine, so it won't rot lol

But yeah Lancia stuff is mega bad, Ford tat also

Markd89
01-12-12, 07:59 PM
rotten escort compare to a nova :

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJEQE--DYgtULBPy2dRj5Mw~~60_58.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJFYE-k9SlcRuBPy2cVkF+Q%7E%7E60_58.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJ%218E-FObdf33BPy2eybIW%21%7E%7E60_58.JPG


still fetched nearly 6 grand

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 08:45 PM
you could t-cut that couldnt you lol

marc69
01-12-12, 09:59 PM
Love the escort....!

My mk2 Nova was past the stage where I would repair it, I went through the length of the chasis legs by finger. My early mk1s though seem to be better, they were originally primed inside the chasis legs when made and all three cars are still on the originals, bearing in mind one is my everyday runner in freezing wet aberdeen. (sills/arches and other repairable panels have been replaced on that car though)

My 1960 mini sills are full from the factory with some sort of foam and 52 years later the sills are mint (garaged nowadays though). My 1972 bl mini is another story, sills/floor/valances/boot/doorsteps...want me to continue? You can actually see when pullin git apart that the panels are rubbish, just thrown on with no paint anywhere tthat you can't see...ie cheap

I think a car is a rot box depending how important it is too you despite the condition. Had my mk2 nova been a sport, I may have considered keeping it but as a 1.2i, not worth it for me sorry.

mowgli
01-12-12, 10:03 PM
Im thinking about going to malta and driving a minter back

you'll need to take one hell of a run up... its 100 odd miles from sicily for a start

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 10:12 PM
you'll need to take one hell of a run up... its 100 odd miles from sicily for a start

sounds like a topgear mission

marc69
01-12-12, 10:14 PM
sounds like a topgear mission

yes, especially with clarkson being such a vauxhall ffan

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 10:17 PM
lets face it if a carb engine nova breaks down its down to no fuel, no spark or the head gasket has gone i would definatly do it. would certainatly make a different holiday lol

marc69
01-12-12, 10:33 PM
about ten years ago I had one of those holidays. In the lake district the carb started real issues then on the A7 home the altenator failed but I decided to keep going till the battery ran out of charge, 200 miles later (13 miles from home) it died, called AA.

He charged the battery enough to get me home and also told me that my sump had gone pourous.

I actually really enjoyed the holiday though.

Going to see my poarents (220 miles away on back roads) every winter is always fun, from burst heater matrixes to having to pee on the outside so i can see with the frozen washers, oh, and a few breakdowns too!

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 10:36 PM
all my long journeys in my loon have been sucsessfull apart from being stuck on a closed m6 for 2 hours the otherweek

paul james
01-12-12, 11:36 PM
Novas really don't rust that bad, think about all the other cars from that era (not the obvious Golf's and 205's but all the other cars nobody remembers), and see how may of them are still around. Mine has gone around the clock twice, had a fair bit of rust thats ineveitble from that sort of high mileage, but it was all quite fixable, its not like I had to fabricate a floorpan, replace a roof skin or anything massive like that.

Novas endure while others don't because people like them so much, and they are a great little car. However they always have been a comparatively cheap car, so most people won't spend much on maintaining them, so rear arches eventually deteriorate and rather than ever repairing them the car gets scrapped.

chrisd1986
01-12-12, 11:44 PM
everone has joined this club because they love there novas and will do what ever they can to keep them going but any average person who just owns a nova dosnt realy care would see it as false economy to repare it. i bought my last mk2 golf gti from a breakers yard with i tiny bit of surface rust hidden behind the plastic trim but it passed an m.o.t without any work and i pulled it from a breakers yard WTF

waggygsi
02-12-12, 01:24 AM
rotten escort compare to a nova :

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJEQE--DYgtULBPy2dRj5Mw~~60_58.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJFYE-k9SlcRuBPy2cVkF+Q%7E%7E60_58.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJ%218E-FObdf33BPy2eybIW%21%7E%7E60_58.JPG


still fetched nearly 6 grand
mk1 lotus twincam i think

marc69
02-12-12, 11:41 AM
I think so too, well worth saving this car although I would be far too fainthearted

L14MNP
03-12-12, 12:32 AM
^ Well it sure aint no silver top Zetec. lol

Edd, Fords go badly, but I'm not sure they're in the same league as Lancia mind! lol

It is nice to own a 30 year old car where everything from chassis legs to seat cross members are available should they be needed though. :)

Jack
03-12-12, 05:48 PM
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Barn-Find-Ford-Escort-Twin-Cam-Period-Rally-Car-1968-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJFYE-k9SlcRuBPy2cVkF+Q%7E%7E60_58.JPG

Its doing this face :tard:

lol