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16v Nova Kev
13-11-12, 11:13 PM
I'm looking for someone to port a 1600 head and lighten and balance the bottom end. Can you recommend anyone

bazil
13-11-12, 11:19 PM
Tried West of Scotland engineering ?

16v Nova Kev
13-11-12, 11:19 PM
Are they good tho?

bazil
13-11-12, 11:23 PM
I've not used them in years, I was supposed to drop my XE head in to them for new guides and recutting the valve seats etc but cash is tight the now,

16v Nova Kev
13-11-12, 11:25 PM
I will give them a phone tommorow see what the prices are like
The rate I'm going at the engine will be going back in soon

bazil
13-11-12, 11:34 PM
Nice one!

I was quoted £95
That was them supplying and fitting 16 new valve guides

And fitting new valve steam seals ( I supply ) refitting all valves and cutting the seats to match

Not bad I thought

16v Nova Kev
13-11-12, 11:35 PM
When was that tho 1980???? Lol

bazil
13-11-12, 11:37 PM
lol na a few months ago, they done the gsi head skin in 2002 for me, can't remember much more lol

mowgli
14-11-12, 07:43 AM
curious as to why you want this doing?? i'd imagine the std head is fine up to about 180hp. what has been modified on it already?

i've never seen the point of 'lightening & balancing' a bottom end for a road use car, the gm bottom end will cope with 7500rpm, just how fast do you want to rev it?

16v Nova Kev
14-11-12, 08:11 AM
It's just going to be 40s and a cam. Thought a bit of head work would help?

dave2beetle
14-11-12, 09:36 AM
I use Newmarket Engineering in Stirling for all my machining work. Jim is a great guy (ex stock car racer) and knows his onions.Tel 01786 473090 Tell him the boys with the quick veedubs recommended him. And cheers for the exhaust last night fella. Step closer to getting my mates car back on the road.Dave

16v Nova Kev
14-11-12, 09:44 AM
No worries I'm always glad to help and meet other nova people

ben doodar
14-11-12, 12:36 PM
curious as to why you want this doing?? i'd imagine the std head is fine up to about 180hp. what has been modified on it already?

i've never seen the point of 'lightening & balancing' a bottom end for a road use car, the gm bottom end will cope with 7500rpm, just how fast do you want to rev it?

a mate of mine had a 1.4 8v he ported his own cylinder head and had quite a bit skimmed from it, with a 32/34 weber carb, 4 branch manifold and standard cam it made just over 100bhp and was quicker than a mates gte up to about 90mph so surely the head work makes considerable diffirence??

MK999
14-11-12, 01:39 PM
Head work and high comp bottom end on a 2.0 16v I did some work on took it to 195bhp/200lbft on completely standard manifolds and K-jet management (which is glorified carb)

Head work is the difference between a garage build that makes 160bhp and a 'named' engine that makes 230. They don't have 'magic parts' they just know exactly what they're doing with the flow into an engine.

philip
14-11-12, 02:58 PM
Some 'name' go too big on ports at times too, jre go out to 28mm on the 20xe's and require the underside of the inlet ports to be welded, he builds them to peak at9k+, no good for a forest car, my mates xe peaked at 7.4k, won the awncc and historics in the rallyX few years back and always competitive with the 'cheque book' cars.

16v Nova Kev
14-11-12, 05:16 PM
pm sent

MK999
14-11-12, 05:19 PM
Didn't mean to undermine the work of those that don't work under a company name ;) I know of a particularly nice 1.8 8v Volvo with headwork done by an individual that revved to about 9.5 and 180bhp and climbing last time I saw it... just coming onto it's 320 degree cams before it had carb issues lol

When we asked what kind of top end it was supposed to have after terminating the run at about 9 they just said "it should be fine to at least 12 or 13? Shouldn't need to go much more than that but it'll survive it if it has to" :d

waggygsi
14-11-12, 07:59 PM
alot of rally cars run jre 20xes and have no trouble. never herd of 9k being to much??

mowgli
14-11-12, 08:31 PM
a mate of mine had a 1.4 8v he ported his own cylinder head and had quite a bit skimmed from it, with a 32/34 weber carb, 4 branch manifold and standard cam it made just over 100bhp and was quicker than a mates gte up to about 90mph so surely the head work makes considerable diffirence??

the carbed nova probably weighed about 100kg less than the gte in std form..... and had a high compression engine.

it made over 100hp, yet the heavier gte was faster after 90mph with just under 100hp.....

the head probably helped make a couple of hp somewhere, but it sounds like it was lacking top end power, as the gte beat it..so the high compression gave it more torque, which is what i'd expect.

mowgli
14-11-12, 08:36 PM
It's just going to be 40s and a cam. Thought a bit of head work would help?

a bit of port matching will help, but i'd reckon it'll produce plenty of power with the cams & 40's alone

i read an article in ccc mag some years back about a company modifying 1600xe's for rallying. after an engine blowup. they needed a running car asap & used a completely stock 16xe that had the throttle bodies off the proper engine fitted..& arb bolts. nothing else, & it made 201hp.

davie300zx
14-11-12, 11:33 PM
No worries I'm always glad to help and meet other nova people

Ye cheers for exhaust mate hopefully fit it sat morning.
Another step closer to a 6 month project bein completed in 2 years !!!

16v Nova Kev
14-11-12, 11:36 PM
Nice one. I wouldn't mind coming up to see yours one day

davie300zx
14-11-12, 11:47 PM
Ye no prob. Let me know . Its gettin there

sport
15-11-12, 05:13 PM
Ye cheers for exhaust mate hopefully fit it sat morning.
Another step closer to a 6 month project bein completed in 2 years !!!

Is yours the brown A reg???