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In a bit a dilemma with myself over what to do to increase the power in my Sport
I have most of the bits to do a turbo conversion on the 1300 in there
Still need a turbo and some other bits so still some money to be spent to do that
Could fit Megasquirt to the 1300 as it is and try and get as much bhp out of it as possible
I have, (Sport purist take a deep breath ) been considering build a high spec 1400/1600 xe, worked head, bodies etc
But this could cost way more than the Turbo conversion for, I'm guessing, the same bhp
I'm not over fused about all the Sport purist stuff tbh, as the main thing I like about Sport's is the styling
I built the Sport because I love being out in a Nova ,but think I need a bit more power
So just taking for peoples opinions on what they would do in my position
Crack on with the 1300 turbo conversion ?
Just fit the Megasquirt now?
Build up a high revving smallblock xe?
Edd
8valve-craig
05-11-12, 07:25 PM
What is your budget?
turbojolt
05-11-12, 07:25 PM
1300 turbo would be epic
turbojolt
05-11-12, 07:28 PM
Zetec.
Turbojolt 'likes' this.
Novasport
05-11-12, 07:29 PM
X18XE1 on TB's. Close to big block power with small block weight. Win win
Then sell me your turbo bits ;)
So you've not actually drive it with the 1300 turbo but already it doesn't have enough power....... Just fit an ls3 with two turbos for 1100bhp and don't whinge.
What is your budget?
no idea lol what i can get away with not telling the mrs about i guess lol
1300 turbo would be epic
it would, just thinking about all the options before i commit to it for sure
Zetec.
rather fit a pinto with a big blower strapped on, think you boys call it a YB or something
X18XE1 on TB's. Close to big block power with small block weight. Win win
Then sell me your turbo bits ;)
was already thining how much i could asdk you for the lot lol
supercharge it?
i would LOVE to do that mate, but the only charger i would fit would be a Rotrex and there 2 grand so that's a no no lol
So you've not actually drive it with the 1300 turbo but already it doesn't have enough power....... Just fit an ls3 with two turbos for 1100bhp and don't whinge.
I wasn't aware i was whinging Stu lol
I'm looking at all the options because im not sure if the 1300 turbo conversion is going to give more than 130bhp
I'm looking at all the options because im not sure if the 1300 turbo conversion is going to give more than 130bhp
not being funny but i'd be happy with that from a possibly 30+ year old GM single cam 8v with a blow on the side... just out of curiosity whats wrong with the eaton off the minis?
Eaton's are massive, Ive looked into putting one on extensively, even bought one to try, no chance, sold it on for profit in the end, think they generate loads of heat as well
So you've not actually drive it with the 1300 turbo but already it doesn't have enough power....... Just fit an ls3 with two turbos for 1100bhp and don't whinge.
tbh Stu building the loom for the Megasquirt, getting all the correct sensors etc is whats putting me off the turbo conversion mainly
Eaton's are massive, Ive looked into putting one on extensively, even bought one to try, no chance, sold it on for profit in the end, think they generate loads of heat as well
fair play if you've already tried it then mate! they are a damn site bigger than a turbo lol in that case if it was me i'd have a 1300 bottom end with a e16 head/inlet with a t25, be a right giggle!
millworm
05-11-12, 08:03 PM
Honda vetec then turbo that
Honda vetec then turbo that
This lol
Will pish all over any turbo GM engine.
My friends old EK hatch was only making about 320~380ish depedany on boost and that was a right giggle. Not bad for an outlay of about £3k ish inc buying a 98 Civic LSi for £900.
tbh Stu building the loom for the Megasquirt, getting all the correct sensors etc is whats putting me off the turbo conversion mainly
but the megasquirt is based round std bosch efi parts, as fitted to gm engines....
blue_peg_16v
05-11-12, 08:56 PM
Have you considered a 1.6 8v with the turbo would look more in keeping and could push 150bhp
8valve-craig
05-11-12, 09:06 PM
I would personally tune a 1600 8v.
Best of both worlds then, Standard-ish looks and good usable power.
Megasquirt is a cheap option, go for omex etc,.
1600 8V turbo' proper built- you should see 180bhp or so.
Should be able to get 140bhp from a shonky old 8v 1300.
Building a wiring harness for an ecu is a piece of piss, if that's putti you off then frankly you shouldn't be building anything lol
I'd be more concerned about getting someone to calibrate it, given most decent tuners won't touch megasquirt.
Have you considered a 1.6 8v with the turbo would look more in keeping and could push 150bhp
This is what i would do, the 1.6 8v's are fun enough to drive standard in a shonky old nova chassis anyways, so with a turbo should be more than enough (imo)
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WTF.?? Mate? lol
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Turbo the 1.3.
A, will be different,
2, 130 brake in a Nova is easily enough, You can lose your lic with a 1.2.
C, you have almost all the stuff.
Should be able to get 140bhp from a shonky old 8v 1300.
Building a wiring harness for an ecu is a piece of piss, if that's putti you off then frankly you shouldn't be building anything lol
I'd be more concerned about getting someone to calibrate it, given most decent tuners won't touch megasquirt.
Stu, as your in a good position to say, what is Megasquirt actually like as a product? Worth using? Is it likely to fcuk up and ruin my engine? I have one, would it be better to shell out for something else?
I'd personally only use it on a cheapy engine I didn't care about, but there are many many hardcore self chooners on the net who state it's the dogs nuts..... But they are mostly rocking bodge turbo builds worth a fiver anyway.
As ever with management, whatever the guy you are taking it to for setup likes, buy. You might lose 20% of the value but it will always sell, megasquirt IMHO will be worthless in a short time. Stuartsquirt will fix this lmao
I have someone that will map the Megasquirt so that's no problem
Just don't want a melt down /hole in the block crap lol
The cost of another ecu is my main concern, I got the Megasquirt cheap and don't want to outlay anymore lol stupid new house and mortgage
Oh and when is StuartSquirt happening? You been talking bout it for years now lol
Takes a while to get stuff moving properly. About to be trained in howto make pcb's properly :d
So long as its been built right it will be fine. Just don't expect it to be as robust as an oem or normal aftermarket ecu.
millworm
05-11-12, 10:06 PM
Usually bubble
loool
Crack on with the 1300 turbo engine something diffrent but almost in keeping with a Sport.
Small block tosh...........Big block it!
lmao!
Nick.
BRoadGhost
05-11-12, 10:14 PM
Go for the screaming 1600 twin cam
CorsaBBoomer
05-11-12, 10:23 PM
1.6 block with 1.3 head
decent pistons, balanced crank, lightened flywheel, tb's, good exhaust and a gearbox that holds
small block with T2 and squirt it, job done,
fcuk fitting a 16v smallblock,
how many 1.3 turbo novas are out there atm?
mk1nova_rich
05-11-12, 10:45 PM
Vote for 16/18XE screamer here
1.6 block with 1.3 head
decent pistons, balanced crank, lightened flywheel, tb's, good exhaust and a gearbox that holds
Why use such a terrible head compared to the 1.6 one....
CorsaBBoomer
06-11-12, 06:47 AM
You can make it scream a little more then an XE :cool:
ben doodar
06-11-12, 10:27 AM
Personally I'd go for the 1300 turbo. Always liked your idea of doing this mate. My old nova with an seh was 129bhp and in my opinion was plenty fast enough in a nova. But it killed the handling! my next project will have a tuned 1.6 8v and hopefully around the same power as an seh.
A few years ago i used to have a turbo mini and used a forum called turbominis.co.uk everybody on there ran mega squirt and they all use to rave about it. It might be worth having a look on there edd and see if it can throw up any usefull information to you.
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C/x 16xe is the way my friend.
I want to build another c16xe nova to have alongside the let as the small block xe is a much better to drive
small block with T2 and squirt it, job done,
fcuk fitting a 16v smallblock,
how many 1.3 turbo novas are out there atm?
None lol
Personally I'd go for the 1300 turbo. Always liked your idea of doing this mate. My old nova with an seh was 129bhp and in my opinion was plenty fast enough in a nova. But it killed the handling! my next project will have a tuned 1.6 8v and hopefully around the same power as an seh.
A few years ago i used to have a turbo mini and used a forum called turbominis.co.uk everybody on there ran mega squirt and they all use to rave about it. It might be worth having a look on there edd and see if it can throw up any usefull information to you.
Ben
Thanks for that mate
Why don't you keep your GTE? That's a 1600
C/x 16xe is the way my friend.
I want to build another c16xe nova to have alongside the let as the small block xe is a much better to drive
Been doing some research this morning and a decent spec smallblock will cost loads lol so I won't be doing that
Also found alot of information on the wiring side for Megasquirt, you can buy looms, and looks relatively easy really, only thing that confused me was the relay side of things
Southie
06-11-12, 12:54 PM
2.0 8v turbo it lol
2.0 8v turbo it lol
lol NO
NEVER EVER EVER EVER will I be silly enough to fcuk up another nova with a ten ton undeersteer enducing engine
edd. you have pretty much all the bits, why not just get the 1300 lo-comp bottom end built up & see what happens... if it blows up, wash the engine & sell it on ebay lol lol lol
if you're worried about the loom i'll pop over and help you make it!
theres nothing wrong with megasquirt, its not the ecu that damages engines its the map thats put on it!
build the 1.3 turbo,
you've only got to look at colins 1.0 turbo to show the potential of small capacity turbos!
None lol
Thanks for that mate
Why don't you keep your GTE? That's a 1600
Been doing some research this morning and a decent spec smallblock will cost loads lol so I won't be doing that
Also found alot of information on the wiring side for Megasquirt, you can buy looms, and looks relatively easy really, only thing that confused me was the relay side of things
Relays are the uber easy bit
Novasport
06-11-12, 08:59 PM
Who's sneakily edited the title? lol Oh and it's a capital 'J';)
lol NO
NEVER EVER EVER EVER will I be silly enough to fcuk up another nova with a ten ton undeersteer enducing engine
Man up FFS and fit one of these bad boys lol
http://rstauto.ru/pics/articles/images_engine/71844183186748.jpg
TBH I kinda like the idea of a 1300T. In keeping with the sport by being a 1.3 still, but adds a little extra.
turbojolt
07-11-12, 08:08 AM
^agreed with jack^
kinda like a optional extra in a weired way lol
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