Gearbox help on x16xe?

[kc_08]

Hi was just looking for some advise, il explain the whole thing so it makes more sence. I drove my car down the road, put it into 5th and stopped giving me drive, the revs stayed the same but started slowing down (going up hill) then before i knew it i had no drive at all in any gear, the car was also letting me select every gear while running without using the clutch, and when i did use the clutch my speedo went up but thats it, i just put in a new clutch kit and checked cable/linkage etc and all seemed to be ok, the last clutch was'nt shagged but not great, i put it all back together and managed to get 50yards up the road before it happened again, i had a feeling it was'nt the clutch has it had no signs of going (slipping/smelling etc) someone said my diff has gone and also heard it might be the selector forks (lay shaft) inside the gearbox not acctually selecting gears, but im at my whits end and would like abit more before i go listening to every tom dick an harry around lol. Sorry for the essay i know alot wont be interested in reading all of this.
Was wondering would my mates f18 fit off his mk4 astra sport 1.8? i think its big block and hydraulic clutch though? im not very clued up on this stuff now days :(

But any help will be much appreciated, Thanks Casey

Also i werent sure what gearbox is on it (not had a chance to look) as i thought the ratio's are very short, but the new 1.6 clutch matched the old one perfectly fine, but it manages 53mph in 2nd and roughly 120mph at 6300-6600rpm? I dont what to sound like a chav but thats all i can tell you by the ratios, also 70mph is 36/3700rpm (quite high i thought?)

[mowgli]

with those revs/speeds it sounds like an f13cr...
if you are selecting all gears without the clutch, then the clutch plate isn't engaging or the input shaft is broken

if the speedo is going up but there is no drive, then it sounds like a driveshaft isn't engaged correctly, cos the diff needs to be spinning to get a speedo to work.

the f18 would be more trouble to fit, as it needs new driveshafts & mounts.

[kc_08]

Ok thank you, yeah id thought it'd be more of a pain than its worth, it is a really nice gearbox to use, ive enjoyed it alot, gears are abit short but makes it fun, So would it matter what i got the f13cr off? (search for earlier/late one etc) and can i still use the same 1.6 clutch etc on it as its brand new an suppose its the same as whats on there? Thanks!! ive had no unusual noises etc at all which is weird i thought :S

[nevidred]

I have a few f13 gearboxes here pm me if your interested

[mowgli]

Ok thank you, yeah id thought it'd be more of a pain than its worth, it is a really nice gearbox to use, ive enjoyed it alot, gears are abit short but makes it fun, So would it matter what i got the f13cr off? (search for earlier/late one etc) and can i still use the same 1.6 clutch etc on it as its brand new an suppose its the same as whats on there? Thanks!! ive had no unusual noises etc at all which is weird i thought :S

please think it thru. you fit a new clutch, then suddenly it loses drive.. look at the clutch first.

then look at the gearbox..

as for what car, nova sri,gsi,gte, and sporty corsa b models too

[kc_08]

Def be interested mate, just want to make sure mines what it is lol, wouldnt know if its fine on a 1.6clutch/flywheel by anychance? weird it would be a d.shaft or a diff as i had no noise and the shafts got taken out an put back in when i done the clutch aswell, and a new clutch kit on there so clutch plate should be ok i would thought, but im not sure hence me asking for advise, Thanks Casey!

[kc_08]

No i lost drive, and every tom dick and harry said change the clutch, so i did, fitted it all etc got clutch cable set up fine then the new one got 100ft down the road and it done it again on the new clutch, so somthing to do with the box i pressume, also its a 1.6 corsa x16 but ive been told they come with f15cr/f16 so im not sure whats going on now or who to listen to so thought id get proper advise off here first

Thanks Casey

[mowgli]

oh, sorry. its not how i read it.

did you properly readjust the gear linkage & clutch cable?

[kc_08]

sorry i see how it put it, didnt make sence it happened before and after a new clutch, yeah got the biting point lovely, it selected gears ok but abit more notchy, went into reverse fine to get it off the drive way, then seemed like 3rd instead of 1st at the end of the road and span it round and dont think it was giving me the right gears from then and then all of a sudden speedo played up abit and realised i was getting no drive again :( Thanks

[mowgli]

i think its a driveshaft popped out

[kc_08]

Yeah? il jack it up and have ago mate, if not is there anything else you recommend? jJust weird how it would do it, then have them out an a clutch and then to go again :( Thanks for the help matey il go check the shafts

[boyd_1989]

That's what I thought when reading all of the above lol. Check your driveshafts.

[kc_08]

Well i just popped outside to check it, i can put it in gear (while not running) take handbrake off and it will happily roll down the driveway in gear, also guess what.. I checked the shafts and the shorter shaft is'nt in properly, its like a sausage down an alley way! i cant touch splines but can touch the shaft an get my finger between the c.v an into where it goes in the gearbox lol, only the one though the long shaft has a tiny bit of movement, i dont want to sound like a REAL IDIOT as if im honest i dont know a whole lot specially about the drive etc, but would this be my problem? lol or any others i should worry about? like it rolling down my drive in gear lol But id like to say a BIG THANKS for that anyway!!

[kc_08]

Only cause my friend an i thought id still get drive from the other shaft specially now its just the one? but im not sure so il make myself sound like an idiot and ask anyway :)

[mowgli]

the diff splits drive to both sides, so if one side isn't connected, the gear will just spin freely, and there will be no other drive to the other side.

your gearbox isn't fitted with a limited slip diff, which would allow a single shaft to drive on its own

[boyd_1989]

Problem solved, put the shaft in properly lol.

[camels toe]

Years ago i had a mk1 astra that used to do this.It was my first car so i didnt know bugger all.Got told it was the clutch,then the box.No change after all that.Then a mate said try new driveshafts and after that it was fine.It was the ring on the end that had worn so much it let it pop out enough to disengage the drive.Would be ok for afew miles then it`d pop out and lose all drive.Cost me a fortune for one ****ty little locking ring.

[mowgli]

It just goes to prove that mechanics & most mates know absolutely shag all.....lol lol lol

[kc_08]

I think ive got the same problem as camels toe lol the drive shaft wont stay in! and exactly what your saying is happenening to mine, i went to the local jayar car factors and they said nearly 70quid for the shaft as you cant buy just the circlip, mines abit shagged to be honest, but i dont want to pour money into it for it to carry on sitting there as 180 pound a month for my insurance is a killer as it is :( but il try the drive shaft, but i did have a 'moment' and where my antiroll bar bolts to the front panel has took a slight hit, not sure if this could cause the problem too as it bolts to the wishbone etc aswell Thanks casey

[kc_08]

car drove fine afterwards, and if it dont work its basically 70quid for a circlip as my driveshafts fine (as far as i know)

[camels toe]

Try ebay for an inner cv and just swop the cv over.Should be able to get one for around 20 quid posted and it only takes 10 mines with a pair of circuit pliers to change.

[mk1nova_rich]

Go to a bearing supplier, they should be able to sort you out with a suitable circlip for a few quid.

As for this 'moment' you had I'm guessing its knocked the tie bar mount backwards a decent amount as 9 times out of 10 this will cause the shaft to pop out

[kc_08]

yeah i got told to look for an inner cv, but didnt have much luck at the momment, il try again later if not a bearing supplier sounds like a good idea, i was going to try a mates spare one on an see if that des the trick, yeah across the front panel, its not really a huge impact, but enough to see its been bent (the lip on it) a fair bit but bit harder to see if the whole things been shifted back, any recommendations cause i was thinking if its the car thats bent i might re shell into a nova as thats probably the end of the road for the corsa then, Thanks for the help!

[camels toe]

ebay item number 221101039930 should do the trick.

[scott.parker]

So all this for a missing cuirclip??

[kc_08]

No all this cause i crashed it and lost drive the next day, only travelling around 25-30miles since the crash, for then it to stop, which could be from either... the circlips still there, probs shagged though BUT the car may be bent aswell and i dont have money to keep changing **** to find out the whole shell is ****ed...
That a good enough reason for starting a thread asking for advise on a vauxhall?

[kc_08]

Thanks camels toe, you've been very helpful mate!!