Astra 16v brakes

[ade]

I recently picked up a mint pair of astra 16v brakes (calipers, discs and pads) but I think there are one or two bits missing - thias isnt a realy problem coz I got them for a v good price - however before I remove my existing brakes, I need to know what bits I need

(I'll post pics in a bit) - heres what came with the pack -

2 caliper main sections (the big bit that holds the piston)

4 pads - 2 with a circular spring clip built into one - which cl;ips into the piston

2 discs - big, vented and chunky

2 mounting screws (allen head type) with plastic protector tops

I'm sure there should be a top bracket and some spring wires but I've not seen a set up close.

Anyone got any pics they can post - also how do you fit them? Any fitting instructions from a kit would be great

Theyre not GM parts - motor factors I think - but theyre spotless - just short a bit or two

Ade

[dabest2k]

It doesn't sound like theres anything missing to me...

Before you start check ur brake fluid is resovoir is full.
To fit them its well easy - jack it up - take wheel off unbolt caliper using allen key - theres 2 bolts at the back of the caliper. Take caliper off and suspend out of the way - put the 2 bolts to one side for now.

Then - take off the disc (whack it with a hammer from behind) until it comes off the hub. If there's a star philips shaped screw in the disc just take it out and chuck it away - u dont need it - trust me.

With disc removed - clean hub face and apply copper grease. Put on the new bigger disc and align with holes on hub. Now put the new pads in the new caliper - put some copper grease - behind the pads - not on the braking surface!

Now slide the new caliper on and bolt it using the allen bolts u removed earlier. Now from the old caliper remove the brake hose from the caliper end using spanner. Transfer this to the new caliper (use gloves - brake fluids horrid) use the old copper washers - or buy new if your really can be assed. Don't worry about lost brake fluid. Right now fill your fluid up again u will have lost a bit of fluid doing this.

Now repeat on other side of car. Now you will need to bleed the brakes - its easy as f**k - buy a "one man brake bleeding kit" theyre only bout a fiver and follow the instructions - u cant go wrong.

Hope this helps dude.

[Aragorn]

sounds like everything

or does it...

the "caliper main section" is actaully 2 parts right?

u have the carrier that goes round the disk and the actual caliper body that the pads sit in?

u should have 2 10mm allen bolts for each carrier (for the carrier to steering knuckle mount) and 2 7mm ones for the caliper to carrier mounting points - if the carriers are still attached it makes it all a lot easier

if u dont have the carriers at all you could be in for some problems :/

the spring wires are part of the "fitting kit" u can buy from motorfactors for like ?5 so they aint an issue

they stamped ATE??

[ade]

:?

Theres the main bit - one section (that carries the pads and houses the piston) but nothing else attached to the caliper - dont think I've got the carriers (the bits held in place by springs).

I'll take pics tonight and post up. Theyre really nice looking - big and chunky - just need to make sure theyre all there...

Can you get carriers? Or doesn anyone know of any decent scrappy's?

[Aragorn]

fire up msn mate and ill try and work out what uve got

[Dicko]

dont forget to bend back your disc guard or get some bigger 1s or they will rub on the disc and sound awful

[rgv_stu]

sounds like you dont have the piece which bolts to the hub. the rest is pretty much useless without it :roll:

when you do fit it then just take off the disc cover, it aint needed

[ade]

Heres the pic of one of the calipers - the other ones missing the 2 bolts

http://www.novaload.net/forums/album_see.php?id=1480

http://www.novaload.net/forums/album_see.php?id=1482

Theyre ATE ones - have the following codes stamped on them -

FN 52/24L
5
2027
KBA 60298
CN 977

The 2 allen key bolts slide so I'm guessing these are the sliders so the calipers can move back and forth.

However sure theres a top bit missing...

Theres 2 holes facing the piston (as you look down into it) on the outer casing - sure the spring clips go in there.

Can anyone advise me where I can get the extra bits - anyone know of any good scrappy's that just sell the bits I need?

Desperate for help!

unfortunately the guy I got them from (selling for a m8) doesnt have the other bits

Ade

[Stuart]

hub-caliper mounting brakets are indeed missing.


not sure what to do about that (find a silly person and flog yours to them) and buy a complete set lol

[Aragorn]

u could try SCB round be me but they are expensive and depending on how stupid they are u may or may not get away with paying the full price for a caliper

[ade]

ok - been searching the net and found that the only bits I need are as follows -

Caliper slider bracket x 2
Slider bolts and dust covers x 2
Spring retaining clips x 4

Pics as follows -

http://www.novaload.net/forums/album_see.php?id=1484

http://www.novaload.net/forums/album_see.php?id=1485

The site I got it from was this -

http://www.tomstickland.co.uk/astra/mods2/wheels/atecallipers.htm

A guy thats just fitted astra 16v brakes to his astra.

What I want to know is I need astra sliders - can I just get these from Vauxhall or is there a special kind of slider I need for the nova (or can I use the astra one of the nova?)

My brakes are currently 1.2 ones - non ATE - standard factory fit pish

Ade

:?

[rgv_stu]

think you will find that you cant buy them from vauxhall as its part of the main caliper assembly

best to go to a scrappy and get them or see if the seller still has them lying around

[Dicko]

age gonna be cheaper if u just get a full 16v setup off NL/MIG for ?35 and tell them to keep the discs!!

[ade]

mmm

:|

pain in the anus - unfortunately the guy I got them from doesnt have the carriers - my fault for not checking - it was only ever the calipers discs n pads!

:x

Oh well - I'll get some from somewhere - anyone with a decent scrappy near them? will pay (obviously)

Ade

[Dicko]

how son you want them

im sure the carriers will fit in my tool box if i got scrappys :)

prob is it wont be for a few week