View Full Version : First speeding ticket, speed awareness course maybe?
Just got home to find a lovely surprise waiting on the doormat. Car has been caught at 39mph in a 30mph zone.
Caught by Greater Manchester Police. Does anyone know the speed awareness threshold for this area and if i'm likely to get that option?
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z163/Lee_H25/fbc1cf8c.jpg
Gutted!
Tell 'em it's the bike..lol
Southie
30-05-12, 09:56 PM
Just do the course Lee as it will save you points... it could of been worse though with your MR2 being a quick beast lol
Novasport
30-05-12, 09:57 PM
Can you not blame it on the motorbike lol
Southie
30-05-12, 09:58 PM
Can you not blame it on the motorbike lol
Not a bad idea infact.
pottersrebel
30-05-12, 09:59 PM
yeah blame it on the bike he`s standing on his brakes while u are clearly aware ur not speeding so dont need to brake
Southie
30-05-12, 10:02 PM
yeah blame it on the bike he`s standing on his brakes while u are clearly aware ur not speeding so dont need to brake
Thing is that make it looks like Lee didn't slow down lol
turbojolt
30-05-12, 10:11 PM
I was caught doing the same speed in the same speed zone (in the vdub) and i got offered the course mate should be doing it early next month
novalew
30-05-12, 10:12 PM
i did the course last year 60 in a 50
I done a speed awareness last Friday.... had a choice of either £60 fine & 3 points OR £80 course fee and no points...
The guys running the course told me that here in the midlands (dont know what its like where you are?) there very lenant going on a basis of 10% +9mph. Obviously gonna be different for every county.
Chance of a course are medium going on what they told me... as in courses are handed out when your doing just that little bit to much speed, as oppose to properly hauling ass.
I thought it was a bit dodgy with the bike as if that was a car begin me you wouldn't even be able to see my number plate surely?
He is too close whoever is speeding!!
I remember it well, he was trying to catch his mate who had just tore past me and was literally in my boot! Hopefully he will have got ****ed for it too!
I was nobbled at 42 in a 30 (wasn't paying attention and didn't realise it was a 30 lol) here and had the course. That was in Dorset though which is the most expensive county for it - £105!
FOI request in 2009 says Greater Manchester do 10% + 6mph so you should be ok at 39.
novalew
30-05-12, 10:30 PM
hope you can do it mate
when i did my course there was a bloke who could barely speak english, i mean hello, yes, goodbye was your lot. and he got through
I got caught doing 69 in a 60 Lee, and got offered the course, was full of 65+oaps, in fact the guy next to me was completely deaf! Enjoy! :)
brainsnova
30-05-12, 11:27 PM
I do the limits lol some people get pissed off but **** them I always glance over and if they are staring I put the window down and they look away lol
Story on this particular speed trap.
http://www.saddleworthnews.com/?p=12132
Why has the van got an orange light on top, what a joke. Where its located is a quarry entrance as well, pretty sneaky really!
Jeff16v
31-05-12, 08:14 AM
Bum luck dude, bike probably got off as the crosshairs were on your motor,
Edit, a guy at work got done, the course cost him £130
"people earn more in the south"
that is entrapment
Grey area.... there is a speed limit, you shouldn't break it, therefore if you then its your own lookout on that front.
Not trying to be holier than thou but the rules is the rules. Entrapment would be simply doing you for less than the limit lol
There should be clear signs warning of cameras,thats all they need to cover their backs on.
If there isnt,then the ticket can be deemed as entrapment.
The only areas i agree with the "safety" cameras is in built up areas,ie around schools etc,if you speed around those areas then you deserve all you get imo.
But on country roads,with no houses/people about,come on,is it really necessary??
Common sense is needed sometimes.
Doing you for less than the limit would be a plain cun7s trick-nothing else lol
The only place I really 'speed'* is here in Italy where doing 20kmh over the limit is still too slow for about 60% of the people and you get passed with hand gestures being dealt out lol
* as in drive consistently over the limit rather than the odd spurt of spirited driving
like this?? lol
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRBq4kM8nSWeQBKwtO28tccwWCRbAAJ QL-skgeRTbVVjbiIiBfqg
lmfao, thats not entrapment. If they were driving behind you and pushing you (literally) over the limit, or trying to race you then yes, entrapment. But simply observing and recording isn't - speed limits apply even when the police aren't about lol
Country roads with no houses and people though should be NSL, when they stick fecking 40 or 30 limits on them for no apparent reason makes me irate
rubachuk
31-05-12, 01:45 PM
I got my picture taken last year at 39 in a 30 in the GMP area. 3 points and £60, no option of the awareness course unfortunately.
TeddyThom
31-05-12, 03:16 PM
The guys running the course told me that here in the midlands (dont know what its like where you are?) there very lenant going on a basis of 10% +9mph. Obviously gonna be different for every county.
I thought the general rule of thumb was 10% +1 or 2??
I got my picture taken last year at 39 in a 30 in the GMP area. 3 points and £60, no option of the awareness course unfortunately.
Not good. Have you ever had points before?
Surely one sp30 isn't going to affect your premiums Lee?
I thought the general rule of thumb was 10% +1 or 2??
It varies between each police force service
It varies between each police fArce service
Fixed lol
Never heard anyone round here being offered the course instead of points
I don't think one sp30 puts your premium up that much
I have one any my premiums are cheap imo
nova_stee
31-05-12, 06:58 PM
Course cost me £140 but was still the best option
It varies between each police force service
This.
But more towards differs in every county. Wales being he outright worst.
TBH I would have been finicially better off taking the points as my insurance wouldve only gone up £23.78 lol lol much cheaper then an £80 fee (£60 fine & £20 course fee).
Er you still pay the fine even if you get points?
Er you still pay the fine even if you get points?
No but yes...
Im my case it wa £80. £60 of that goes to the constabulary, the remaining £20 goes to the business that run the course, ergo the remaining £20.
However, the company that done my course (TTC 2000) is owned & ran by the west midlands police as a non profit organisation, all the money they bring in goes to charity (Staffordshire Air Ambulance). They are the ONLY non profit safer driver partnership in the UK apparently aswell. All the others companies are private contractors, hence people saying they had to pay £130++.
There was a guy on my course who got caught in a bus lane in London & had already done a speed awareness course, cost him £280 lol £220 outright profit for the company running the course.
BTW, you CANT fail these courses lol theres no test, no quiz etc etc you just sit there for four hours being told how to drive, watching videos, pointing out what you would consider a hazard etc. Mine was easy, as the vids on my course were all local roads around my area lol
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