Trackday cameras

[Iain]

Ahhhhhhhh it's doing my head in, I don't know what to go for lol I don't want to spend a fortune but I don't want to end up with crap.

I think the choices are:
Go Pro Hero 960 @ £150 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GoPro-Go-Pro-HD-Hero-1080p-5mp-Action-Sports-Camera-Surf-Edition-UK-/140738874446?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcor ders&hash=item20c4b0cc4e

However I don't like the idea of not having a screen to see what you're pointing at, and they don't use a traditional screw fitment as far as I'm aware so you'd need to find a way of mounting it on the rollcage.

So option two...

Handheld camcorder/compact digital camera and a nice rollcage mount like this:

http://www.cameragrip.co.uk/acatalog/sc2.jpg
http://www.cameragrip.co.uk/acatalog/hague_sc2_clamp.html

Was going to use my old digital camera however it's not new enough to use SDHC cards so can't get above 2gb storage for it which rules that out.

This is the quality I got with my 7/8 year old Canon compact digital camera so looking for no worse than this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klph7XvGON8

Help me spend my money lol

[toymex]

I have got the go pro and have an lcd bacpac for it so you can see what you are filming but you have to turn the screen off or it drains the battery ,the roll cage mounts are pretty cheap i think something like a tenner,there is a vid on here i think that i took with it but the sound is crap as i bodged the mount onto my support rather than a gopro one but the picture is very good

[Benn]

A good simple digi Canon, 1080p movies, small a slim, mine was under 100£

[Calamity Josh]

here is a normal gopro hero on my old grasser- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvW0TfgQ-w (skip to about 5:10)

[pottersrebel]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZcAZs5kZ3O4?feature=player_embedded
filmed using a toshiba hand held camere which i mounted on the dash board area.

[Liam]

I'm just about to buy this for our comp safari racer. They are offering it for a very good price at the moment and I believe it will be worth every penny and comes with all the accessories you will need:

https://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=12601

[DAN-F]

Ive got a contour hd for my bike, you can get handlebar mounts for them as well so would be easy to mount to a cage, good quality as well and ive only ever used it on the low image quality setting. ill see if ive uploaded any to youtube now

[tommy8252]

Id go for a variant of the go pro, messed around with my mates a few times on my cars and out on the ktm and the stability and picture quality is awesome. Really steady and really smooth. Sound was really good but was slightly muffled at times.

[DAN-F]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CONTOUR-ROAM-HANDS-FREE-HD-CAMERA-CONTOURROAM-CAMCORDER-WATERPROOF-/300668416954?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcor ders&hash=item46013bf3ba#ht_3624wt_1270

1080p hd for £130

quick vid to show quality, bit shakey cos it was mounted to my goggle strap but not too bad. and it was on the lowest quality picture setting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjlKJYGXlt0&list=HL1334351731&feature=mh_lolz

[Mazz]

You;'ve seen my mount, but this is my camera, cheap miniDV camcorder

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/mrmazz/Nova/Image0168_Small.jpg

And a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6VXONKxpJI

[Iain]

Cheers for the suggestions and sample vids guys! That Hero Motorsports for £140 does look good value for money as it comes with suction mounts, sticky mounts and all sorts I think?

That Contour HD one looks decent quality too, although if it doesn't have a screen I'm still concerned about setting it up right.

Mazz I think the mount I linked to is the same as yours, looks great for mounting options (going to be a pain to mount mine in a good position so the more flexible the better).

[DAN-F]

The contour can be hooked up to an ipod to set it, using the ipod as a sort of remote viewing screen, or theres two little laser lights built in you can use if you have something to aim them at

[Iain]

Don't have an iPod :( I've seen a video of setting up a GoPro using an external screen tho which looked pretty cool.

Think I'm gonna go for that mount and a nice compact camera, complete setup for £150 and can use it for normal pictures too. Job jobbed.

[turbojolt]

You going to get it before the next track day so we can all see how good it is then mate?

[Iain]

Yep sorting it ASAP

[turbojolt]

You at donington track this year mate might come along to get some photos

[Iain]

Will be at some point. Unless I book another before it the next planned one is Cadwell on 30th May.

[turbojolt]

Where is cadwell mate

[Nova_Tek]

Mobile phone maybe? If you got a modern day smartphone within the last year they tend to have minimum 720p video recording @ 30 frames per sec. and seeing as you wont be zooming it'll look fine when viewed back.

Otherwise there was a thread a while back with little cameras that you could buy for less than £10 from ebay that had surprisingly good video capture and quality. I'll try find the thread.

[Iain]

Where is cadwell mate

Look it up you lazy so-and-so.

I do have a brand new smartphone but I like to use it as a phone and not fix it to my car lol Plus it's always fun to spend money.

I've used one of those £10 cameras and wasn't overly impressed with audio quality, video quality was wobbly but I think that's cos I attached it to a seat.

[Nova_Tek]

Hmmm, fair enough. spending money is fun!

I'd personally use my phone. Maybe look at them cheap HD handheld camcorders that have decent quality and are small and light.

[turbojolt]

Look it up you lazy so-and-so.

I do have a brand new smartphone but I like to use it as a phone and not fix it to my car lol Plus it's always fun to spend money.

I've used one of those £10 cameras and wasn't overly impressed with audio quality, video quality was wobbly but I think that's cos I attached it to a seat.

plus his phone has a shocking screen

[Mazz]

Think I'm gonna go for that mount and a nice compact camera, complete setup for £150 and can use it for normal pictures too. Job jobbed.

Good call imo, that mount can be mounted to the top of your cage to fit between your ears..

[Iain]

lol At the way you worded that, yes I have massive ears.

[Iain]

Well I've got the mount from post #1, and a Canon IXUS 115 HS, and for the life of me I can't stop the video vibrating like mad when attached to the car. FFS!

[turbojolt]

Were have you got it right now the rollcage?

[MK999]

Well I've got the mount from post #1, and a Canon IXUS 115 HS, and for the life of me I can't stop the video vibrating like mad when attached to the car. FFS!

Told you should have used an ebay spy camera lol

[Mazz]

I stuck some sticky backed foam on the mountings that go around the cage..

[scott.parker]

Never had that issue with my dog sport cam mount i got, there only £45 with the 360deg knuckle joint too!

[Lee]

We're going to try using a mobile at combe this weekend in Matts. We'll see how it comes out.

[Iain]

I tried some of that rubbery padded anti-slip mat and it seems to help; just around the cage where the clamp is.

Original vibrations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neZ-lqMJ5R0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neZ-lqMJ5R0

And with a bit of padding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYZvpTTYIMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYZvpTTYIMk

Gonna get a big reel of it tomorrow and see if I can dampen it enough to be usable!

[Nova_Tek]

Maybe worth getting cameras with an image stabiliser

[Iain]

It has optical image stabilization...

[turbojolt]

Don't buy it mate I have a antislip mat for my step ladders in my van that I never use you can have it

[Iain]

Is it this crosshatch bobbly rubbery stuff? http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=694131

[turbojolt]

yer mate looks the same my mat looks to be a tighter weave but hard to tell from the photo lol

[Iain]

I am interested in negotiating a deal with you sir. Looms on Saturday? :)

[turbojolt]

yer mate no worries bing your tools abby wants a new steering wheel lol

[Hobbit]

We're going to try using a mobile at combe this weekend in Matts. We'll see how it comes out.

I bought this little bad boy off ebay...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20120425_164412.jpg

is a motorbike handle bar mount, and s2 hard case that locks onto it

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20120425_164435.jpg

all mounted.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/20120425_164426.jpg

Vids have come out well, but it seems bt have turned my interwebs down so struggling to upload.

[Lee]

Awesome :)

[Pistol Pete]

I bought a £5.99 suction cup mount for my Samsung camcorder off ebay. Hoping to use it saturday.

Will try and post up some vids.

[Hobbit]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/th_Hobbits32Novacameramounttest.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/?action=view&current=Hobbits32Novacameramounttest.mp4)

[scott.parker]

Nice! Love the V6 sound, looks fun.. i see you edit the parts where you under take the slow mo's at 100mph on the motorway! lol

Not bad at all for a phone mounted to the cage, they get that slight flex look in the image, but a good cheep way to do it!

Scott

[scott.parker]

Iain, here's the clamp/mount i got, but has a new ball socket now..

http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/super-clamp-ball-and-socket.html

and this is how it looks (low quality res) from my 2009 Fuji finpix J110W

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyhbzH1ArGU

Slightly better res at combe..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjfFZHSTVyM&feature=relmfu

Scott

[Iain]

Same clamp as mine but I have the double ball-and-socket attachment. Will watch the vids when I get home, pesky work blocking Youtube!

[Lee]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/th_Hobbits32Novacameramounttest.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/?action=view&current=Hobbits32Novacameramounttest.mp4)

Works fine that. Although Ive a feeling the sound will be uber distorted at full chat in track conditions. Very impressed at lack of vibration though. I was expecting serious wobble.

[Hobbit]

And if you take it out you can just bung your s2 in the holder :cool:

[Lee]

And if you take it out you can just bung your s2 in the holder :cool:

Didn't even think of that :)

[Connor]

That sounds awesome hobbit!

[Benn]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/th_Hobbits32Novacameramounttest.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/?action=view&current=Hobbits32Novacameramounttest.mp4)

Bass! hahah Sounds a bit all over the place, try opening a window to let some pressure out, stupid as that sounds.

[Nova_Tek]

Nova sounds raw! But yeah it'd be nicer if the mic on tha camera was able to record with less distortion.

[Iain]

This is what I've managed to achieve with lots of testing and tweaking. Not exactly the dazzling high def quality I was hoping for but watchable....?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciksfBIUInA

[Benn]

That looks alot better, shame you cant see the cabin tho. Oh and the girls in the recommended vids are way better! Great tits on them both.

[Iain]

I'll get my camera genius mate to look at the light metering and see if he can sort it out for cabin.

I know the exact vid you're talking about, found it searching for sample vids of that camera, nice aren't they lol

[Benn]

You'll always get a bit of light flash when father in the cabin to looking out the window. But they flick over fast so your ok.

[Hobbit]

Well using my phone yesterday was a big fail. Video automatically stops after 30 mins, and we were queueing longer than that :(